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RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - Omni3 - 08-05-2018
(08-03-2018, 04:22 PM)Frosted Wrote: More spiritual aspects. You know, the "ascendant" part of ascendant alpha. Spirituality teaches to go from fear and seperation to love and connectedeness and Shannon has said that traditional alphas lead through fear whereas ascendant alphas lead themselves and they feel love. Not word for word, but something like that.
Keep in mind we already got most of that hardcore badass alpha shit in there so a little woo woo "fairy" suggestions aren't going to turn any of us into betas.
Anyways the way I see AM now is that it's to get you to be a self actualized man. But there's even one step higher than that and that is "transcendence". Hence "transcendent alpha". I feel the transcendent part is lacking so far, it's been mostly about self esteem and becoming independent and getting your needs met with some spiritual stuff sprinkled in like zen attitude.
Now what needs to be quenched is the need for spirituality. I'm not trying to make it ineffective, diluted, or more "woo woo". I'm talkin spirituality that works.
-Decalcafied Pineal Gland
-Healthy Eating
-More Focus on Taking Care of Your Health - It makes your mind body and spirit healthier - And You Feel Great!
-Balanced healed, Cleansed, Activated, Awakened and Unblocked Chakras
-Increased Awareness/Present to the Moment
-Unconditional Love
-Compassion
-Happiness and Joy
-Peace and Serenity
-Be a Relaxed Person - Tempered by Ambition and Work Ethic
-Work Hard Play Hard
-Focus On Charity - On Helping and Giving Back to The World - Giving Your Greatest Gift
-Focus On a Deep Identity Level Transformation Through the Purification of the Soul.
-Become Someone Who "Shines"
-Spiritual Fulfillment
-Higher Knowledge and Wisdom
-Become a Generous Person
-Emphasis on Higher Self
-Become Master Over Your Own Soul
-Clarity; Mentally, Emotionally, and Spiritually
-Strong Vitality
-Firmly Rooted
-Replace Depression With Vitality and Optimism
-Become More of Who You Truly Are Every Day
I might add more later.
I'm all for Spiritual Growth Sub - This ticks many boxes
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - Tristian - 08-14-2018
Become a great leader- someone people follow out of love not out of fear.
Destroy self destructive behavoiur - I know anti self sabotage programming is already included but I think this is a primary way people escape becoming a better person. Smoking, drinking, drugs, sleeping in all ways to escape becoming a better person.
Make the world a better place - sounds cheesy, i know. But a good alpha should have an interest in bettering the world, no matter how big or small.
Recognise people for who they really are - This would incorporate body language analysis and language pattern analysis to identify the good and bad apples out there.
Anti stagnation programming- ties in with continous improvement mentioned before.
A drive to consume and assimilate information deemed beneficial to your purpose. A drive to read books and watch documentaries.
Become a loving person- Alphas do not spend time hiding away hating the world.
Respect for nature and the enviroment.
Respect for other people.
(I can identify low quality people from subtle actions such as manners, if they litter. Basically if they have little respect for others or the place they live. I can't respect them)
Emotion control - To enjoy the world and your situation when it is going well for you and to remain stoic and calm when it isnt.
Controlled aggression- This ties in with the previous one. Aggresion channelled can be used to sculpt your body, learn martial arts, to become better.
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - DavisMind91 - 07-07-2019
Not sure how focused this will be on being able to attract women (indirectly) but I learned a new term yesterday known as magnetic masculinity. Now how it was explained is that typically, men are electrifying (go-getters, extroverted, etc.) while women are magnetic aka attractive to others. This concept of magnetic masculinity would basically have a man begin to learn to hone his electrifying side and contain and focus that energy on self development, in turn making him “magnetic” both to women, and the men that choose to look to him for inspiration.
The current alpha male program already seems to do this to a certain extent but makes one into a transcendent alpha, as Shannon has described it before. I do think they the next AM program should encourage the user to “screen” and “qualify” those they socialize with, and mentally assign them a role within the man’s circle. Depending on where he chooses to place these people, he’ll be able to improve his social and communication skills as a man in order to help himself gain knowledge that can help him further his life, but also be willing to be a leader that assists others; therefore, creating a win-win relationship with the people he chooses to interact with on a regular basis.
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - Greenduck - 07-08-2019
I have a friend who I believe is an Alpha. He often is the leader in groups and he make people feel good and have a good time when around him. I feel this is a big thing, to be a stable point and give people a good laugh and be able to relax around you. He feels like a safe person. Someone you can share things with and he will not judge you but will give you solid advice. He is emotionally present, but still stable in himself. He is powerful, but still gentle. He is a guy you can trust and someone you look up too. I would love to have a program that would help me get more like that. Girls feel like girls around him, you know like he is the adult and they are younger. I guess it's because they feel safe around him. But at the same time he can be childish and laugh at stupid stuff. Life seems like an adventure to him.
And one other thing that an alpha need to have a mission that he follows to fulfil his potential, I'm not sure that this really is at the core of the alpha. Sure and alpha should try to find the best place for himself in the world, but it's his character that makes him an alpha, not his mission. There need to be a balance there, between applying yourself and being able to enjoy life with friends, girls, etc.
At the same time I have by boss who is Alpha in another way. He is a very respectful man. You respect his presence. He carried competence, experience. His insights is on point, he is humorous, straight to the point and very frank, which can be taken negatively at a start, but you after a while know that he was right and you know that he's not out to hurt you, he just tell things as they are. He is a serious guy who takes life seriously and have made a lot of $$ and been CEO for multiple large companies. But at the same time you can joke with him and you see that he is a "real guy".
They are different kind of men, and I'm pretty sure Shannon in his research have looked into different cuttings in looking into men and that AM develop the coveted traits in different kind of settings. But I guess they both carry some similarities, some common denominator that is at the basis for the AM program.
I like the suggestion with a spiritual direction of the AM program, reaching at a presence of pure, strong, stable, transformative love.
I read a quote I liked about the alpha male by a phychologist name Kaufman:
Quote:“The most attractive male is really a blend of characteristics, including assertiveness, kindness, cultivated skills and a genuine sense of value in this world,” says Kaufman. “The true alpha is fuller, deeper, and richer.”
Source for the quote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/the-myth-of-the-alpha-male-a7724971.html
Another article talking about the Alpha Male
https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-alpha-male/
Dominant-undominant
Quote:What’s going on? Well, this most certainly doesn’t mean that the extremely brief three-sentence description of the John depicted in the control condition was sexually appealing. Rather, it’s more probable that hearing about either dominant or nondominant behavior, in isolation of other information about him, made him less sexually attractive. The researchers conclude: “In short, a simple dominant-nondominant dimension may be of limited value when predicting mate preferences for women.”
Dominance
Quote:This analysis was revealing because it suggests that dominance can take many forms. The dominant male who is demanding, violent, and self-centered is not considered attractive to most women, whereas the dominant male who is assertive and confident is considered attractive. As the researchers suggest, “Men who dominate others because of leadership qualities and other superior abilities and who therefore are able and willing to provide for their families quite possibly will be preferred to potential partners who lack these attributes.”
Their results also suggest that sensitivity and assertiveness are not opposites. In fact, further research suggests that the combination of kindness and assertiveness might just be the most attractive pairing. Across three studies, Lauri Jensen-Campbell and colleagues found that it wasn’t dominance alone, but rather the interaction of dominance and pro-social behaviors, that women reported were particularly sexually attractive. In other words, dominance only increased sexual attraction when the person was already high in agreeableness and altruism.
The simplicity of beta-alpha dividing
Quote:These results clearly show that dominance and prestige represent very different ways of attaining and maintaining status. But it’s also worth once again reiterating the overlap: qualities like strength, leadership, kindness, and morality can exist in the same person; strict categories of “alpha” and “beta” truly set up a false dichotomy that obscures what a man is capable of becoming. While dominance may be advantageous in a narrow set of circumstances, prestige is far more valued in nearly every context. Due to their authentic pride, prestigious individuals are more likely to be respected, socially accepted, and thus successful. Who would you rather have on your team — Kevin Durant or Dennis Rodman?
Conclusion
Quote:It is neither the alpha nor the beta male that is most desired by women.
Taken together, the research suggests that the ideal man (for a date or romantic partner) is one who is assertive, confident, easygoing, and sensitive, without being aggressive, demanding, dominant, quiet, shy, or submissive. In other words, a prestigious man, not a dominant man.
In fact, it appears that the prestigious man who is high in both assertiveness and kindness is considered the most attractive to women for both short-term affairs and long-term relationships. This research should offer some assurance that the genuinely nice, passionate kid who learns a culturally valued skill can be immensely attractive.
Further, seeking to become a prestigious man is not only the surest route to success with women, but achievement in any area of life.
Thus, I think a much more effective and healthier route for men having difficulty attracting women is not to attempt to cultivate the traits of the stereotypical, dominant “alpha,” but to cultivate the traits of the prestigious man. This means developing a skill that brings value to society, and cultivating a stable sense of identity. Such a route will not only make you more attractive to women, but will also create the most satisfying life for yourself in general. In my view, attempting to don the persona of the “alpha” is analogous to building a house of cards. There’s no stable foundation supporting your worth.
It’s time we shed these black and white categories, and embrace a much more multidimensional concept of masculinity. The most attractive male is really a blend of characteristics, including assertiveness, kindness, cultivated skills, and a genuine sense of value in this world. The true alpha is fuller, deeper, and richer.
Really looking forward to AM7 as I'm done with LTU!
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - tolgaocal80 - 08-26-2019
I think the new AM7 should include a program about wealth like BASE or UMS.
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - Benjamin - 08-26-2019
It's not likely that it will as that would take away from the core programming and goal of the program. In AM6 Shannon has some programming around women and has said that next time it will just be focused on the goal of becoming Alpha.
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - ncbeareatingman - 08-30-2019
(08-26-2019, 04:19 PM)Benjamin Wrote: It's not likely that it will as that would take away from the core programming and goal of the program. In AM6 Shannon has some programming around women and has said that next time it will just be focused on the goal of becoming Alpha.
Right Friggin' On ,Man!! I Know that AM7 is gonna be on helluva program!! "Light Speed-Alpha!" hummm?
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - Greenduck - 09-05-2019
I wanted to share an anecdote about my friend who I look up to due to some of his traits and hope to someday acquire, in regards of leadership. When we play sports, he is often calm and collected and I feel more relaxed when he is around and can therefore perform better. He can can calm me down and help me find my potential again. To have this strength is really valuable for other people around him, and I find this being a real leadership trait. Hope that AM7 can help develop something like this.
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - tolgaocal80 - 09-06-2019
some suggestions for AM7:
1. developing stoic or zen attitude 6g
2. living the life without any need of women, or any relationship (without "need")
3. accomplish a big idea that can change world and live the life through this way. (depends on ones wants). (thats a very big thing.)
4. maximum social skills, and not caring about anything in this situation.
5. full acceptance of body, subconcious mind, and anything about self.
6. auric shield (in growing stages to prevent any of bad effects from enviroment).
7. releasing any kind of fear (death, pain, loss, extinction, failure, mutilation, separation, humiliation.) and rationalize them, loving acception and releasing them.
I think Shannon may be release AM7 6g at sometimes 2020 and then years later 7g, so I personally will stick with AM7 for years maybe the one sub I will use, I will buy AM6 soon, and then will stick on AM7.
Any other suggestions ?, I sure Shannon will make a masterpiece again.
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - UniversalMan - 05-22-2020
(08-05-2018, 11:57 AM)Omni3 Wrote:(08-03-2018, 04:22 PM)Frosted Wrote: More spiritual aspects. You know, the "ascendant" part of ascendant alpha. Spirituality teaches to go from fear and seperation to love and connectedeness and Shannon has said that traditional alphas lead through fear whereas ascendant alphas lead themselves and they feel love. Not word for word, but something like that.
Keep in mind we already got most of that hardcore badass alpha shit in there so a little woo woo "fairy" suggestions aren't going to turn any of us into betas.
Anyways the way I see AM now is that it's to get you to be a self actualized man. But there's even one step higher than that and that is "transcendence". Hence "transcendent alpha". I feel the transcendent part is lacking so far, it's been mostly about self esteem and becoming independent and getting your needs met with some spiritual stuff sprinkled in like zen attitude.
Now what needs to be quenched is the need for spirituality. I'm not trying to make it ineffective, diluted, or more "woo woo". I'm talkin spirituality that works.
-Decalcafied Pineal Gland
-Healthy Eating
-More Focus on Taking Care of Your Health - It makes your mind body and spirit healthier - And You Feel Great!
-Balanced healed, Cleansed, Activated, Awakened and Unblocked Chakras
-Increased Awareness/Present to the Moment
-Unconditional Love
-Compassion
-Happiness and Joy
-Peace and Serenity
-Be a Relaxed Person - Tempered by Ambition and Work Ethic
-Work Hard Play Hard
-Focus On Charity - On Helping and Giving Back to The World - Giving Your Greatest Gift
-Focus On a Deep Identity Level Transformation Through the Purification of the Soul.
-Become Someone Who "Shines"
-Spiritual Fulfillment
-Higher Knowledge and Wisdom
-Become a Generous Person
-Emphasis on Higher Self
-Become Master Over Your Own Soul
-Clarity; Mentally, Emotionally, and Spiritually
-Strong Vitality
-Firmly Rooted
-Replace Depression With Vitality and Optimism
-Become More of Who You Truly Are Every Day
I might add more later.
I'm all for Spiritual Growth Sub - This ticks many boxes
Also for spiritual growth!
But that should be a separate sub, not in AM7
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - tolgaocal80 - 05-23-2020
some more thoughts. some of them may be written already.
8. Overcoming porn and masturbating permanently. (waste of time and wastly energy.)
9. transformation of sexual energy . (with overcoming masturbating and porn addict, directing this unwasted sexual energy to accomplish greater achivements and program goals. Sexual energy is really important for a man. )
10. Any kind of Shield, (it would be needed when growing stages (1-2-3), when changes beginning to start, this kind of protection will be needed. perhaps DRS or TAS better for using that transmuted energy for achieving the goals of the program. )
11. Lesser focus to achieving success with women, because we already got SM-WM-DMSI-NSFM etc.
(Imho, stages 4-5-6, should be focus on manifestations about social enviroments but not about attractting beatifull women, atractting and creating high class friends, social life. if women will be there , that is okey but not an effert for it. we can always use other subs like upper)
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - tolgaocal80 - 07-25-2020
I recently got some new ideas on "body language"
~ desire to learn and develop "gentleman body language". and "talking patterns"
I mean , a huge desire to learn how a gentleman should move and talk when he went to outside, dinners, everywhere. not just "alpha male dominance and confident body language", but like a real gentlemen, : how to eat dinner in a high class restaurant, in a meeting, in a saloon, etc. Being kind to everybody as possible, how to talk anyone when need something from somebody to do , I think that would be very usefull for a modern alpha male.
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - Tristian - 04-08-2021
Balance heart and mind
Accurate Intuition and Quickened Responses
Tune in to the universe to Navigate it in a positive and constructive way
develop an understanding of how the universe operates and use that understanding to self develop
RE: Alpha Male 7 6G - Johannesbrst - 05-07-2021
Recommended readings to the Alpha Male program
I have read the How to become an Alpha Male by John Alexander recently and while there was some practical tips that I enjoyed, I got the feeling that the author prescribed to at all costs keep up an "facade" toward women. What I mean is the examples where he told you to "control the frame", "switching subjects", "keep talking when walking home with the girl at all times" - it just gave off a desperate an unauthentic vibe for me. Not at all in the same league with the profound things I've read here on this forum coming from Shannon, at all. What I expect about developing as a man wouldn't be so much about projecting things to other people, but to become more assured in myself, for one thing. And as this is mentioned in the book, it's only done on a superficial level.
My experience with John Alexanders book made me to look for something else and I am currently reading David Deida's "The way of the superior man" which is more appealing to me for some reason. It centers around the underlying energetic balances between female and male energies, and how they affect our relationships, and how important polarity is for creating attraction, among other things, such as finding your purpose in life.
If you haven't come across David Deida's book yet Shannon, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on it and how well it aligns with the philosophy behind your AM programs. I think that you would enjoy it, based on our discussion in the Religion thread. It focuses on long term changes on a profound level, where I felt John Alexander's book was about projecting an image, mostly directed toward dating.
As a reference John Alexander's book has around 300 reviews with an average rating of 3,7/5 on Goodreads and David Deida's has 18 000 reviews with an average rating of 4/5.
I haven't gotten around to read the "Double your dating" yet but it's next in line after I've finished David Deidas book.