(06-25-2021, 02:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 12:50 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 10:41 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 09:18 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Hi @Shannon

I’m not sure if this question has been asked in the past but anyway I don’t remember the answer

Regarding DMSI is there anything in it that works to train us in order to identify IOI’s, I’ve noticed increasingly that women give all different sorts of IOI’s some that are super subtle and others that are overly blatant and it can get very annoying tracking all of them especially if you’re in a party or a loud dark nightclub

Is there something in DMSI already (or that can perhaps be added) that trains you or gives you some sort of urge or trigger that immediately alerts you to people that are attracted to you in your vicinity and gives you the push to jump on opportunities?

DMSI does't care about IOIs.  IOIs don't matter.  What matters is her making her desires happen.  That's what DMSI is designed to do.  Not let her be subtle ad draw you in; it's intended to get her to seduce you if need be, not be subtle.  You don't need to jump on opportunities if it's being fully executed.  She will do what is necessary to get her needs met.  And remember, the highest value men don't chase or look for IOIs, because they are the prize.

Besides, in most cases, training does not work well in a subliminal.

@Shannon This made me wonder, will DMSI still work on a girl that I (the sub listener) desire, even if at that time she (the target) is into and desiring another guy?

If you execute, it can influence her interest and focus on you regardless.  What she does about it is not dictated by the program; that is her choice.  I never take away the free will of the people being influenced.

Quote:and what if hes lesbian but I dont know this at that time? just curious lol

I'm going to presume that you made a typo here and meant to ask what if she is a lesbian, since to the best of my knowledge a lesbian is by definition female.

I don't have data on how DMSI causes lesbian women to respond to heterosexual men.  What I can say is this:

• A woman can claim to be "lesbian" for a variety of reasons when it is not the truth, including trying to shut down a man who she doesn't want attention from.
  
• A woman who is "lesbian" may be one of three types:
  

1. A natural born genuine full on lesbian who really is a lesbian and only a lesbian.  These are the rarest, amusingly, comprising less than about 20-25% of the "lesbians I have encountered.  My sample size does not make my experience valid statistical evidence of anything, however.
   
2. A woman who is "lesbian" by choice after deciding that men have hurt her too much, and she's decided to "go lesbian" as a result.  These really aren't lesbians, they just chose to "switch teams" because they think somehow female humans are less likely to act like humans than male humans. (Sadly, not the case.)
   
3. A woman who actually is only "lesbian" because she wants attention, thinks it's trendy, wants to fit in with a specific crowd, or some other shallow vapid reason.  These really aren't lesbians; at best, they're bisexuals, and at worst, they're attention whores.
   

• Different "lesbians" will respond to DMSI's influence while being used by a heterosexual male very differently as a result of the above factors.
  
• They will also change based on the situation, level of privacy, risk to her social status, risk of judgement by her family and friends, how physically attractive she is/believes herself to be, how physically attractive she believes/judges him to be, how sober or intoxicated she is, what she is intoxicated by, her monthly cycle, how her day is going, her mood, how horny she is, how open or closed minded she is, how positively or negatively she views "all men", how positively or negatively she views your particular race, how positively or negatively she views your particular sexual orientation and preferences, what she values in a sexual partner, how much of those qualities you have and display, how wealthy you are, how famous you are, how confident you are, how tall you are, what you smell like, your fashion sense, and on and on ad infinitum.
  

(06-25-2021, 02:33 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 02:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 12:50 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 10:41 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 09:18 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Hi @Shannon

I’m not sure if this question has been asked in the past but anyway I don’t remember the answer

Regarding DMSI is there anything in it that works to train us in order to identify IOI’s, I’ve noticed increasingly that women give all different sorts of IOI’s some that are super subtle and others that are overly blatant and it can get very annoying tracking all of them especially if you’re in a party or a loud dark nightclub

Is there something in DMSI already (or that can perhaps be added) that trains you or gives you some sort of urge or trigger that immediately alerts you to people that are attracted to you in your vicinity and gives you the push to jump on opportunities?

DMSI does't care about IOIs.  IOIs don't matter.  What matters is her making her desires happen.  That's what DMSI is designed to do.  Not let her be subtle ad draw you in; it's intended to get her to seduce you if need be, not be subtle.  You don't need to jump on opportunities if it's being fully executed.  She will do what is necessary to get her needs met.  And remember, the highest value men don't chase or look for IOIs, because they are the prize.

Besides, in most cases, training does not work well in a subliminal.

@Shannon This made me wonder, will DMSI still work on a girl that I (the sub listener) desire, even if at that time she (the target) is into and desiring another guy?

If you execute, it can influence her interest and focus on you regardless.  What she does about it is not dictated by the program; that is her choice.  I never take away the free will of the people being influenced.

Quote:and what if hes lesbian but I dont know this at that time? just curious lol

I'm going to presume that you made a typo here and meant to ask what if she is a lesbian, since to the best of my knowledge a lesbian is by definition female.

I don't have data on how DMSI causes lesbian women to respond to heterosexual men.  What I can say is this:

• A woman can claim to be "lesbian" for a variety of reasons when it is not the truth, including trying to shut down a man who she doesn't want attention from.
  
• A woman who is "lesbian" may be one of three types:
  

1. A natural born genuine full on lesbian who really is a lesbian and only a lesbian.  These are the rarest, amusingly, comprising less than about 20-25% of the "lesbians I have encountered.  My sample size does not make my experience valid statistical evidence of anything, however.
   
2. A woman who is "lesbian" by choice after deciding that men have hurt her too much, and she's decided to "go lesbian" as a result.  These really aren't lesbians, they just chose to "switch teams" because they think somehow female humans are less likely to act like humans than male humans. (Sadly, not the case.)
   
3. A woman who actually is only "lesbian" because she wants attention, thinks it's trendy, wants to fit in with a specific crowd, or some other shallow vapid reason.  These really aren't lesbians; at best, they're bisexuals, and at worst, they're attention whores.
   

• Different "lesbians" will respond to DMSI's influence while being used by a heterosexual male very differently as a result of the above factors.
  
• They will also change based on the situation, level of privacy, risk to her social status, risk of judgement by her family and friends, how physically attractive she is/believes herself to be, how physically attractive she believes/judges him to be, how sober or intoxicated she is, what she is intoxicated by, her monthly cycle, how her day is going, her mood, how horny she is, how open or closed minded she is, how positively or negatively she views "all men", how positively or negatively she views your particular race, how positively or negatively she views your particular sexual orientation and preferences, what she values in a sexual partner, how much of those qualities you have and display, how wealthy you are, how famous you are, how confident you are, how tall you are, what you smell like, your fashion sense, and on and on ad infinitum.
  

I work with two single people. A heterosexual male and a homosexual female.
She actually told him, "If I ever decide to have a child, I want you to be the father."

So yes, sex with a lesbian is very possible under the right circumstances.

(06-25-2021, 07:45 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 11:59 PM)CatMan Wrote: Shannon, does the new male enhance sub work like you consciously want a size and the sub works towards that? Or is there some pre-selected figure? Just curious.

Hope ToothGate isn't going too awful!

The tooth being out has made an immediate positive difference, and with the industrial strength Ibuprofen they prescribed, I can work now.  Thanks for asking.

The scripting coming out of the models so far as being the best option does not give a limit.  It's goal is continued growth.  As it stands, it appears you simply keep using it until you get where you want to go.  I'm not sure yet.

That said, for those reading this, be warned: I'm not going to make a program to reverse the effects of this one.  So be very sure you want more before you try to go beyond a "normal" large size such as 8 inches in length, because too big really is a thing.

I don't know yet how well this program will actually work in real use, or how long it will take to work, but the models seem to be indicating that what I'm taking to be the majority of users at least will be happy with their results.  I'm trying to be as honest and transparent as possible with you here, this is not me saying it will work, or making sensational claims to get you to buy it.  But if it does work, and it works according to what has come out of the models so far, then it will simply keep trying to grow your penis until you stop using it.  So as I said... be absolutely sure you want more before you keep using it beyond "large-normal" size, because I'm not making a reversal program for this.

(06-25-2021, 01:18 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 12:50 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: what if hes lesbian but I dont know...

Jake, you've shown an amazing ability to make mountains out of mole hills constantly and psych yourself out. But this takes the cake.

Let's not worry about guys being lesbian. I don't think that will be a problem to worry about going forward, lmao .

(06-25-2021, 02:33 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 02:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 12:50 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 10:41 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 09:18 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Hi @Shannon

I’m not sure if this question has been asked in the past but anyway I don’t remember the answer

Regarding DMSI is there anything in it that works to train us in order to identify IOI’s, I’ve noticed increasingly that women give all different sorts of IOI’s some that are super subtle and others that are overly blatant and it can get very annoying tracking all of them especially if you’re in a party or a loud dark nightclub

Is there something in DMSI already (or that can perhaps be added) that trains you or gives you some sort of urge or trigger that immediately alerts you to people that are attracted to you in your vicinity and gives you the push to jump on opportunities?

DMSI does't care about IOIs.  IOIs don't matter.  What matters is her making her desires happen.  That's what DMSI is designed to do.  Not let her be subtle ad draw you in; it's intended to get her to seduce you if need be, not be subtle.  You don't need to jump on opportunities if it's being fully executed.  She will do what is necessary to get her needs met.  And remember, the highest value men don't chase or look for IOIs, because they are the prize.

Besides, in most cases, training does not work well in a subliminal.

@Shannon This made me wonder, will DMSI still work on a girl that I (the sub listener) desire, even if at that time she (the target) is into and desiring another guy?

If you execute, it can influence her interest and focus on you regardless.  What she does about it is not dictated by the program; that is her choice.  I never take away the free will of the people being influenced.

Quote:and what if hes lesbian but I dont know this at that time? just curious lol

I'm going to presume that you made a typo here and meant to ask what if she is a lesbian, since to the best of my knowledge a lesbian is by definition female.

I don't have data on how DMSI causes lesbian women to respond to heterosexual men.  What I can say is this:

• A woman can claim to be "lesbian" for a variety of reasons when it is not the truth, including trying to shut down a man who she doesn't want attention from.
  
• A woman who is "lesbian" may be one of three types:
  

1. A natural born genuine full on lesbian who really is a lesbian and only a lesbian.  These are the rarest, amusingly, comprising less than about 20-25% of the "lesbians I have encountered.  My sample size does not make my experience valid statistical evidence of anything, however.
   
2. A woman who is "lesbian" by choice after deciding that men have hurt her too much, and she's decided to "go lesbian" as a result.  These really aren't lesbians, they just chose to "switch teams" because they think somehow female humans are less likely to act like humans than male humans. (Sadly, not the case.)
   
3. A woman who actually is only "lesbian" because she wants attention, thinks it's trendy, wants to fit in with a specific crowd, or some other shallow vapid reason.  These really aren't lesbians; at best, they're bisexuals, and at worst, they're attention whores.
   

• Different "lesbians" will respond to DMSI's influence while being used by a heterosexual male very differently as a result of the above factors.
  
• They will also change based on the situation, level of privacy, risk to her social status, risk of judgement by her family and friends, how physically attractive she is/believes herself to be, how physically attractive she believes/judges him to be, how sober or intoxicated she is, what she is intoxicated by, her monthly cycle, how her day is going, her mood, how horny she is, how open or closed minded she is, how positively or negatively she views "all men", how positively or negatively she views your particular race, how positively or negatively she views your particular sexual orientation and preferences, what she values in a sexual partner, how much of those qualities you have and display, how wealthy you are, how famous you are, how confident you are, how tall you are, what you smell like, your fashion sense, and on and on ad infinitum.
  

I work with two single people. A heterosexual male and a homosexual female.
She actually told him, "If I ever decide to have a child, I want you to be the father."

So yes, sex with a lesbian is very possible under the right circumstances.

(06-25-2021, 04:56 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 02:33 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 02:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 12:50 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(06-24-2021, 10:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: DMSI does't care about IOIs.  IOIs don't matter.  What matters is her making her desires happen.  That's what DMSI is designed to do.  Not let her be subtle ad draw you in; it's intended to get her to seduce you if need be, not be subtle.  You don't need to jump on opportunities if it's being fully executed.  She will do what is necessary to get her needs met.  And remember, the highest value men don't chase or look for IOIs, because they are the prize.

Besides, in most cases, training does not work well in a subliminal.

@Shannon This made me wonder, will DMSI still work on a girl that I (the sub listener) desire, even if at that time she (the target) is into and desiring another guy?

If you execute, it can influence her interest and focus on you regardless.  What she does about it is not dictated by the program; that is her choice.  I never take away the free will of the people being influenced.

Quote:and what if hes lesbian but I dont know this at that time? just curious lol

I'm going to presume that you made a typo here and meant to ask what if she is a lesbian, since to the best of my knowledge a lesbian is by definition female.

I don't have data on how DMSI causes lesbian women to respond to heterosexual men.  What I can say is this:

• A woman can claim to be "lesbian" for a variety of reasons when it is not the truth, including trying to shut down a man who she doesn't want attention from.
  
• A woman who is "lesbian" may be one of three types:
  

1. A natural born genuine full on lesbian who really is a lesbian and only a lesbian.  These are the rarest, amusingly, comprising less than about 20-25% of the "lesbians I have encountered.  My sample size does not make my experience valid statistical evidence of anything, however.
   
2. A woman who is "lesbian" by choice after deciding that men have hurt her too much, and she's decided to "go lesbian" as a result.  These really aren't lesbians, they just chose to "switch teams" because they think somehow female humans are less likely to act like humans than male humans. (Sadly, not the case.)
   
3. A woman who actually is only "lesbian" because she wants attention, thinks it's trendy, wants to fit in with a specific crowd, or some other shallow vapid reason.  These really aren't lesbians; at best, they're bisexuals, and at worst, they're attention whores.
   

• Different "lesbians" will respond to DMSI's influence while being used by a heterosexual male very differently as a result of the above factors.
  
• They will also change based on the situation, level of privacy, risk to her social status, risk of judgement by her family and friends, how physically attractive she is/believes herself to be, how physically attractive she believes/judges him to be, how sober or intoxicated she is, what she is intoxicated by, her monthly cycle, how her day is going, her mood, how horny she is, how open or closed minded she is, how positively or negatively she views "all men", how positively or negatively she views your particular race, how positively or negatively she views your particular sexual orientation and preferences, what she values in a sexual partner, how much of those qualities you have and display, how wealthy you are, how famous you are, how confident you are, how tall you are, what you smell like, your fashion sense, and on and on ad infinitum.
  

I work with two single people. A heterosexual male and a homosexual female.
She actually told him, "If I ever decide to have a child, I want you to be the father."

So yes, sex with a lesbian is very possible under the right circumstances.

There's a big difference between "You have suitable qualities.  I want you to be my sperm donor." ("If I ever decide to have a child, I want you to be the father.") and "Oh dear goodness, you get me so hot and bothered!  I have to have you NOW!" (DMSI when executed.)

(06-25-2021, 07:46 AM)Shannon Wrote: @Zeroxmachina

Could what you posted be taken as medical advice?  I appreciate you sharing that information, but dispensing medical advice when you're not a doctor is illegal.

(06-25-2021, 10:30 PM)abundance Wrote: So when can we expect to download the next update of DMSI?

(06-25-2021, 01:18 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 12:50 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: what if hes lesbian but I dont know...

Jake, you've shown an amazing ability to make mountains out of mole hills constantly and psych yourself out. But this takes the cake.

Let's not worry about guys being lesbian. I don't think that will be a problem to worry about going forward, lmao .

(06-25-2021, 08:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 03:49 PM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

I have been running masked the whole time (3 loops currently) and I am thinking about running hybrid format. How many loops would it be advised to start off with?

Each loop of hybrid is 2 loops of anything else. I suggest starting with 1 and increase if you feel the need.

(06-26-2021, 07:30 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon you wrote this

(06-25-2021, 08:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-25-2021, 03:49 PM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

I have been running masked the whole time (3 loops currently) and I am thinking about running hybrid format. How many loops would it be advised to start off with?

Each loop of hybrid is 2 loops of anything else. I suggest starting with 1 and increase if you feel the need.

at tholt's journal here:https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OF-V3-Journal?pid=246553#pid246553

So if 2 US is equal to 1 hybrid and I would prefer staying on US (as silent is my preference for sleep) then is it okay to do that since it seems so many are getting stronger effects and results from hybrid. I rather just increase my loops if the effects can be the same?