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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 01-04-2021
Ahhhh Yes the journey continues. MY Vote is UMS2 straight ahead. that is after or beginning it ,during the the finally work on LTU # 7 Refresher.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - 4Kingdoms - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 08:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. I can create DMSI v3.3.3 from 3.3.2, upgrading nothing but the skeleton script, adding FRM 4.9 and building it in Platinum Lake build method, which I estimate will take about a week to do and will give me a good idea of what I am working with since the tech has improved so much since v3.3.2 came out. Basically this would have the advantage of being easy and rapid to build, and would tell me a lot more about what I need to do to get those affected to respond before building v3.4.
This is only my opinion...
I don't think DMSI should be made until the pandemic is over.
Even when the opposite sex does have the urge to make a move, most certainly the idea of getting the virus which could lead to death will outweigh the desire to procreate.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - martin - 01-04-2021
Hi Shannon i've a question regarding 'Improve Your Eyesight 5.75.4g' I had laser surgery on one eye. The other eye is ok , the vision did not improved in the surgery eye. I haven't got cross eyes. At the moment is more like lazy eye. The doctor told me in my case for good seeing is responsible the visual cortex area and visual neurons which are less developed because they were suppressed . So the question is it's possible this subliminal program will handle this issue?Thank you!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Griffin - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 11:17 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:(01-04-2021, 08:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. I can create DMSI v3.3.3 from 3.3.2, upgrading nothing but the skeleton script, adding FRM 4.9 and building it in Platinum Lake build method, which I estimate will take about a week to do and will give me a good idea of what I am working with since the tech has improved so much since v3.3.2 came out. Basically this would have the advantage of being easy and rapid to build, and would tell me a lot more about what I need to do to get those affected to respond before building v3.4.
This is only my opinion...
I don't think DMSI should be made until the pandemic is over.
Even when the opposite sex does have the urge to make a move, most certainly the idea of getting the virus which could lead to death will outweigh the desire to procreate.
I second this, Also it using up 1 of the 2 free upgrades is annoying. then the FRM thing gets figured out and if it does not work well yet we will have to pay for any adjustments.
If we upgrade when FRM thing does get figured out, we will have one more upgrade to get any kinks worked out.
Just my opinion though.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Mr_steevee - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 01:03 PM)Griffin Wrote:(01-04-2021, 11:17 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:(01-04-2021, 08:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. I can create DMSI v3.3.3 from 3.3.2, upgrading nothing but the skeleton script, adding FRM 4.9 and building it in Platinum Lake build method, which I estimate will take about a week to do and will give me a good idea of what I am working with since the tech has improved so much since v3.3.2 came out. Basically this would have the advantage of being easy and rapid to build, and would tell me a lot more about what I need to do to get those affected to respond before building v3.4.
This is only my opinion...
I don't think DMSI should be made until the pandemic is over.
Even when the opposite sex does have the urge to make a move, most certainly the idea of getting the virus which could lead to death will outweigh the desire to procreate.
I second this, Also it using up 1 of the 2 free upgrades is annoying. then the FRM thing gets figured out and if it does not work well yet we will have to pay for any adjustments.
If we upgrade when FRM thing does get figured out, we will have one more upgrade to get any kinks worked out.
Just my opinion though.
This. If it takes longer then it takes longer. I would vote for the best possible version.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Darwin - 01-05-2021
Shannon man,
I had two days of living in absolute dread.It was like i was stuck in the energetic state of fear, and it even manifested visually as a place in my mind, similar to people's visualisations of hell. There were times i had tears and was shaking.
I found two things were able to elevate me out of it, one was compassion for the fellow travellers stuck there, understanding and determining to care for them, and two was choosing courage which was to act forthrightly with vigour in spite of the valid reasons for being there.
I give that for whatever use it is. After i felt something like scrooge, realising there was still a lot to play for and that place isn't inevitable.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - RTBoss - 01-05-2021
(01-04-2021, 01:03 PM)Griffin Wrote:(01-04-2021, 11:17 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:(01-04-2021, 08:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. I can create DMSI v3.3.3 from 3.3.2, upgrading nothing but the skeleton script, adding FRM 4.9 and building it in Platinum Lake build method, which I estimate will take about a week to do and will give me a good idea of what I am working with since the tech has improved so much since v3.3.2 came out. Basically this would have the advantage of being easy and rapid to build, and would tell me a lot more about what I need to do to get those affected to respond before building v3.4.
This is only my opinion...
I don't think DMSI should be made until the pandemic is over.
Even when the opposite sex does have the urge to make a move, most certainly the idea of getting the virus which could lead to death will outweigh the desire to procreate.
I second this, Also it using up 1 of the 2 free upgrades is annoying. then the FRM thing gets figured out and if it does not work well yet we will have to pay for any adjustments.
If we upgrade when FRM thing does get figured out, we will have one more upgrade to get any kinks worked out.
Just my opinion though.
4K makes a good point regarding the pandemic. However, the whole 1 of 2 free upgrades thing? We've had how many to this point, for less than $200/copy? Come'on. It's getting ridiculous. It was always an experimental purchase. I've had fun, and got more than my money's worth, at times. It also feels good to have been a part of helping develop 6G through using and reporting on using DMSI.
Looking forward, someday, to a 6G DMSI - perhaps even a multistage DMSI - which would be something I'd pay for in an instant.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 01-05-2021
(01-05-2021, 05:49 AM)RTBoss Wrote:(01-04-2021, 01:03 PM)Griffin Wrote:(01-04-2021, 11:17 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:(01-04-2021, 08:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: 1. I can create DMSI v3.3.3 from 3.3.2, upgrading nothing but the skeleton script, adding FRM 4.9 and building it in Platinum Lake build method, which I estimate will take about a week to do and will give me a good idea of what I am working with since the tech has improved so much since v3.3.2 came out. Basically this would have the advantage of being easy and rapid to build, and would tell me a lot more about what I need to do to get those affected to respond before building v3.4.
This is only my opinion...
I don't think DMSI should be made until the pandemic is over.
Even when the opposite sex does have the urge to make a move, most certainly the idea of getting the virus which could lead to death will outweigh the desire to procreate.
I second this, Also it using up 1 of the 2 free upgrades is annoying. then the FRM thing gets figured out and if it does not work well yet we will have to pay for any adjustments.
If we upgrade when FRM thing does get figured out, we will have one more upgrade to get any kinks worked out.
Just my opinion though.
4K makes a good point regarding the pandemic. However, the whole 1 of 2 free upgrades thing? We've had how many to this point, for less than $200/copy? Come'on. It's getting ridiculous. It was always an experimental purchase. I've had fun, and got more than my money's worth, at times. It also feels good to have been a part of helping develop 6G through using and reporting on using DMSI.
Looking forward, someday a 6G DMSI - perhaps even a multistage DMSI - would be something I'd pay for in an instant.
This plays into something I've said before, RT. I hear you 100% bro!
Shannon keeps doing this "I work for free on this program" thing and pushing it back further and further to not work on it because of that belief. Even months ago, yet again, it was supposed to be the focus, but then got derailed and backburnered again, likely for the same reason. I've said we've ALREADY paid for it, many of us have paid multiple years ago for it...and are still waiting for a functional release that works. V3.3.2 has not been upgraded since it came out, which was September 2019...September 2019...
He doesn't seem to be seeing that side of the argument. So, it's clear the only way to get the program made in a reasonable time frame, and to have it ready for when the pandemic ends, is to pay to have it made. We've *already* paid for it...but with his belief of "working for free now on it", we have to do something to break this deadlock or else the program will likely never be focused on to fix it's issues that will take a few months of time as he's stated I believe, and thus likely never made. It's clear the "two free updates" are a mirage and not likely to occur in any reasonable time frame because of his belief on this issue, the last update for DMSI was September 2019 as stated. So, it's clear we need a different approach here to move things forward.
I'm more interested in a fully working DMSI with above issues fixed, than I am in another $115USD. As I said long ago when I tried to table this with DMSI, this removes the "I work for free" objection. He turned it down before confusingly, maybe this time it will go through. He stands to make a lot of money if he does it!
Let's all just cut the shit and get down to business and make this program a beast, and get 6G pumping once and for all. Buy a new version and get things moving now, it's been stagnant forever. He needs the help and money, regardless.
He can make V3.3.3 now by focusing on the effected-FRM etc. issues, then go build UMS V2 in the meantime for more dollars, while V3.3.3 provides feedback, then circle back for V3.4 with a new paid upgrade to iron things out and tweak anything that needs tweaking. Problem solved. Let's just stitch this one up once and for all...it's dragged on for years. It has the potential to change my life if it can ever work, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that potential. So let's do this.
Forget about the "free updates"...it's pretty obvious that won't happen for the reasons described. It isn't worth his time to him, so we need to change that to balance out the value of things. Win-win.
Another win-win here, people. Let's get this program going again, and help Shannon during this nightmarish period!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - RTBoss - 01-05-2021
@Shannon
Is it possible for you to set up a DMSI "Tip Jar" on the store? For those of us who would like to pay for your time dedicated to upgrading DMSI, or anyone who just wants to give you some cash as a "thank you?" List multiple different amounts, or a "pay what you like, thank you, kindly!" That way, the people who expect to receive the free updates will get them, and those who would like to pay more, can.
I'd throw-in. I've gotten more value from DMSI than I paid in, let alone other subs.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - fab10 - 01-05-2021
Quote:Shannon keeps doing this "I work for free on this program" thing and pushing it back further and further to not work on it because of that belief.Bro, I’m sure you don’t mean to be offensive but this sounds very unfair.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 01-05-2021
(01-05-2021, 09:18 AM)fab10 Wrote:Quote:Shannon keeps doing this "I work for free on this program" thing and pushing it back further and further to not work on it because of that belief.Bro, I’m sure you don’t mean to be offensive but this sounds very unfair.
Not sure how, it's in fact exactly what has happened and based off his own words often in the past about this issue. No sense cherry picking one sentence from my post and removing all context from it.
He needs funding, so working on a "free program" won't give him that. Him knowing he needs to spend a lot of time on the program to fix it, makes working on the program uninteresting to him from a cash flow standpoint. Hence, it gets delayed in favour of other projects. Simple logic.
I'm offering a way out of that deadlock. That's it. It isn't "offensive and unfair", it's a solution to a problem that's existed for a very long time now with this program. And gives Shannon a new potent way to make more money.
The post is a balanced appraisal of the program since birth, many years ago now, and how to create a win-win scenario to keep it moving forward and give Shannon a new cash injection since it's in deadlock now as previously stated.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - fab10 - 01-05-2021
I only cherry picked the quote, the whole message sounds offensive and unfair in my opinion but you are sure you know ‘exactly what has happened’ so I’ll leave it at that, no hard feelings.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 01-05-2021
The thing you like to forget, CM, is that the program isn't being worked on because I don't have the information I need yet. I literally don't know how to move it forward just yet. In reality, I am working on it, every day, because every day I am dedicating some time to figuring out the solution to how to move it forward. I cannot do what I don't yet know how to do.
It is true that I need to keep the business funded, and DMSI is intended to be a free upgrade for the next 2 upgrades, but that's not what is holding me back. It's knowing how to do the job. Causing a user to hear an instruction set, and then communicate that instruction set through their aura to someone else in a way that causes them to subsequently execute and be affected by it, as if they are using FRM 4.9, is at least 2-3x more difficult to do than designing and scripting FRM 4.9, and it will take time. I'm not interested in spending 4-6 more years just working on this one point, so we will either figure out the solution, or find an alternate solution that works.
I've been working on both. I believe an alternate solution is more likely at this point, but both options are still on the table. It is being worked on, but the work is going on in my head. Sometimes it just be like that.
I like the compromise suggested by RTB that allows me to honor what I said I would do, and allow you guys to pay for it if you wish to, but I don't see how we are going to implement that without putting ourselves in a position to let first time "buyers" just get access to the pay what you want page from a friend, and pay nothing.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 01-05-2021
(01-05-2021, 09:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: The thing you like to forget, CM, is that the program isn't being worked on because I don't have the information I need yet. I literally don't know how to move it forward just yet. In reality, I am working on it, every day, because every day I am dedicating some time to figuring out the solution to how to move it forward. I cannot do what I don't yet know how to do.
It is true that I need to keep the business funded, and DMSI is intended to be a free upgrade for the next 2 upgrades, but that's not what is holding me back. It's knowing how to do the job. Causing a user to hear an instruction set, and then communicate that instruction set through their aura to someone else in a way that causes them to subsequently execute and be affected by it, as if they are using FRM 4.9, is at least 2-3x more difficult to do than designing and scripting FRM 4.9, and it will take time. I'm not interested in spending 4-6 more years just working on this one point, so we will either figure out the solution, or find an alternate solution that works.
I've been working on both. I believe an alternate solution is more likely at this point, but both options are still on the table. It is being worked on, but the work is going on in my head. Sometimes it just be like that.
I like the compromise suggested by RTB that allows me to honor what I said I would do, and allow you guys to pay for it if you wish to, but I don't see how we are going to implement that without putting ourselves in a position to let first time "buyers" just get access to the pay what you want page from a friend, and pay nothing.
I didn't "forget" it at all, Shannon. That was in fact my point. You said you needed time to focus on the effected-FRM, but didn't want to do so because you needed cash flow through other programs. I get it, it's a business issue, makes perfect sense.
I tabled a way to achieve both, help you, and help us. Help you prioritise it to solve the problem, while paying you to do so like any other program. That was the idea.
The fact I recognise your difficulty in that issue, is why I offered this approach. To help both parties involved to get what they desire.
I like the spirit of that idea too, yes. But then just don't have a "nothing" option, introduce a minimum perhaps. But, I still say it's easier to implement, and safer due to the other "tip" way having abuse as you spoke of...just buying a fresh copy from you from scratch, that's the most practical and beneficial to you too. I wanted to do that to give you full value for the work to focus on DMSI, that was my purpose here. Just like OF V2's proposal.
If you need to raise the price of DMSI to reflect the work, let's do it. I just wanted to help you out of the deadlock issue so it's more worth the time investment is all. Just tabling options and warming people up to it, in case it strikes your fancy like OF V2
.