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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - SargeMaximus - 05-30-2016 Shannon, when it comes to life goals and growth, is it possible that you can get worse before you get better? Or is getting worse a sign that you're not on your path? I've been getting worse with women ever since starting to try and improve with them and I'm beginning to think I'm on the wrong path. What would you say? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:36 PM)dE3k Wrote: When will we be able to purchase AOSI? When I: Finish describing it in the product description page. Finish editing the product description page. Finish linking the files. Click Publish Publicly. Tell everyone it's available. How long that takes depends on how much I can focus on it along the way. ![]() RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Darkness - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:35 PM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:18 PM)Darkness Wrote: Oud wood the perfume is perfect the only problem it last 2 hrs compared to what one pays for. Thank you for clarifying that, I understand now. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:41 PM)maxx55 Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:27 PM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:11 PM)CatMan Wrote:(05-30-2016, 07:28 PM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 03:36 PM)CatMan Wrote: Yeah it sounds like the sub isn't a permanent sub, and is augmenting "what you currently have", as Shannon has described earlier on as well. Since SM3 totally failed for me and is deemed to be a deep permanent change compared to this program...I'm now not convinced this sub will do much either, at least currently since "what I have" hasn't gotten any success at all. I'll have to rethink whether buying it and switching to it from E2 is wise, sadly. If I didn't get benefit from SM3, I'm probably not likely to get much from this, either. It's going to suck reading epic reports from others, but I did the same thing about SM3 so that isn't new. When I finish describing AOSI and publish it, just compare the description pages. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:42 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, when it comes to life goals and growth, is it possible that you can get worse before you get better? Or is getting worse a sign that you're not on your path? Generally it is a sign that you're going the wrong direction in life. Not always, but in my experience, usually. Most of the time. Life's funny like that. You're welcome to have it your way, but your way doesn't change the world you live in. And if you want to go the wrong way, well, have fun. You'll be back when you figure that out. No matter how stubborn you want to be. ![]() RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - SargeMaximus - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:42 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, when it comes to life goals and growth, is it possible that you can get worse before you get better? Or is getting worse a sign that you're not on your path? But, does that mean I was on the right path all along? I mean seriously: I've gotten worse with women as the years have gone on since discovering these subs. Does that mean I was right before and have somehow triggered myself to go on the wrong path? Does it mean that these subs are the wrong path for me? I'm very confused. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Jakeb203 - 05-30-2016 Shannon I have this dilemma. I have been switching BASE and AM back and forth so far. Right now I am confused as to the more programs I run, the more I try to consciously maintain the previous programmings which sometimes gets very tiring. For example when I am running BASE I tend to consciously focus on AM programming so it does not evaporate. I seem to care a lot about this because I don't want the previous efforts to go away. But I don't know if focusing on my previous sub runs will distract my current run, maybe I am not getting the most out of it? In my mind I always try to have this image of having different programs combining into one coherent piece. What do you recommend to focus your attention on during every new run? Should you spend half of your effort maintaining, or virtually none just the current one? My personality seem to be the "forgetting" type that's why I don't want to lose every previous runs. Also, the more programs I run in the future, say SM, WM, how do you make sure that all programs stick effortlessly? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Jakeb203 - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:49 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:42 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, when it comes to life goals and growth, is it possible that you can get worse before you get better? Or is getting worse a sign that you're not on your path? Sarge I don't have much authority to tell you which direction you should head into, but if you feel like you have gotten worse with women it might be to do with either you aren't clear where you are heading to, or lack of scientific methods to get better. You see "getting better with women" may be a very general term. You can expect to date multiple women, have many free ONS, or simply getting a girlfriend. There are definitely ways you can reach there, but thinking blindly improve the women area is too general to be actionable. If you want to work on becoming more attractive, I guess SM / WM will be the better option. Last but not least, if you struggle too much with getting women, finding a mentor in this area will help tremendously. Studying success is much easier when you are actively communicating with models, and let him pin-point what you need to work on, and in real person. I'd say I haven't seen too many self-learners who have achieved tremendous success or reached any pro level when they only choose to work alone. Critiquing, tweaking and working on something always requires you to understand what the problem is, often with a bunch of people, so you will keep making progress or eventually solve the problem. And as secondary thought, I believe running BASE will help you reach a clearer level of thinking that will solve your confusions even better. Before BASE my mind was fairly scattered because I tend to think with right brain too much. A golden gem in BASE is training you to think, analyze and solve questions logically, hence why it is so practical and why you may have a clearer grasp of how to deal with the current struggles. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:49 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:42 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, when it comes to life goals and growth, is it possible that you can get worse before you get better? Or is getting worse a sign that you're not on your path? What's the difference between before and after? Are you following a different philosophy? Trying to game them more, following the player mindset, the PUA stuff? There's a lot of possible reasons. What are all the differences between now and the start of getting worse? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 08:53 PM)Jakeb203 Wrote: Shannon I have this dilemma. I have been switching BASE and AM back and forth so far. Right now I am confused as to the more programs I run, the more I try to consciously maintain the previous programmings which sometimes gets very tiring. For example when I am running BASE I tend to consciously focus on AM programming so it does not evaporate. I seem to care a lot about this because I don't want the previous efforts to go away. But I don't know if focusing on my previous sub runs will distract my current run, maybe I am not getting the most out of it? In my mind I always try to have this image of having different programs combining into one coherent piece. What do you recommend to focus your attention on during every new run? Should you spend half of your effort maintaining, or virtually none just the current one? My personality seem to be the "forgetting" type that's why I don't want to lose every previous runs. Also, the more programs I run in the future, say SM, WM, how do you make sure that all programs stick effortlessly? Are you sing AM all the way through each time? I suggest you run the program and get on with your life. If you aren't finished achieving the goals of one program... run it again until you have. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - apollolux - 05-30-2016 Shannon, I'm suddenly curious to know what Shannon the person is all about, how you became who you are today. You've revealed bits and pieces of your history on these forums over the years, some huge like your battle with cancer, some smaller in comparison like attracting certain women into your life or references to your photography career, but it might help some of us better understand your motivations for doing what you do how you do it if there was a convenient timeline/chronologically ordered account of the process of becoming "Shannon Matteson, 2016 and beyond" that you'd be willing to share with us. I'm not looking to write a biography of you or anything like that, I'll leave that to better writers than myself ![]() RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Jakeb203 - 05-30-2016 (05-30-2016, 09:04 PM)Shannon Wrote:(05-30-2016, 08:53 PM)Jakeb203 Wrote: Shannon I have this dilemma. I have been switching BASE and AM back and forth so far. Right now I am confused as to the more programs I run, the more I try to consciously maintain the previous programmings which sometimes gets very tiring. For example when I am running BASE I tend to consciously focus on AM programming so it does not evaporate. I seem to care a lot about this because I don't want the previous efforts to go away. But I don't know if focusing on my previous sub runs will distract my current run, maybe I am not getting the most out of it? In my mind I always try to have this image of having different programs combining into one coherent piece. What do you recommend to focus your attention on during every new run? Should you spend half of your effort maintaining, or virtually none just the current one? My personality seem to be the "forgetting" type that's why I don't want to lose every previous runs. Also, the more programs I run in the future, say SM, WM, how do you make sure that all programs stick effortlessly? Yes, everytime it's all the way through. The reason might be I try to adjust my beliefs according to the subs first, so I don't reach any conflicts. Then I switch back to other beliefs I may possibly have. So sometimes I become very conscious of what the program tries to achieve, and actively try to cooperate with it. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - ImFreeman - 05-30-2016 Hey Shannon, i've been thinking a lot about my own E2 run and i am starting to understand what you say when a program is too powerful/successful at what it does. Did i overdo E2? I have used E2 for 82 days, for around 18hs a day. It worked *really well* so much it caused some problems balancing it with the rest of my life. For almost all the run i felt i was running on zero to almost zero willpower. It's like i woke up in the morning already having depleted my willpower? (is that resistance?), with no motivation to work/study/work out?. I was sleeping a LOT too. maybe up to 11 hours a day (8 at night and a 3 hour siesta...) All in all it was a very successful although not a pleasant run, in the worst part of the storm i was having all kinds of thoughts about hipothetical shitty/fear ridden situations, and coming up with solutions, things to say and do under different situations and varieties. Also it's like my mind was coming up with the worst case scenario for those situations and coming with answers to those situations. Not pleasant at all, these things happened specially in the morning, i would wake up at 7am and spend up to 2hours ruminating in bed and having these whirlwind thoughts. After these dark clouds vanished i felt like i was flowing, confident in my ability to deal with those situations, until it started again some days later... I am getting, a LOT of looks, not so much on the street, but when entering a place i can feel the looks and double takes. Everybody treats me extra nice, not like a child but like someone who is very liked by people. First time ever something like this happens to me... Awesome!! All in all i am going to have a rest from E2 and start again MLS5g, as i have 3 important exams in a months time. E2 i would say is perfect to use in vacation time when i can really relax and forget a bit about responsabilities. I will definetly try to put 90 more days whenever i get the opportunity, but right now the responsabilities are piling up. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Jakeb203 - 05-30-2016 And sometimes I face a blockage in BASE. It's like the chest pain when you try to do opposite to what the program tries to accomplish. I am not sure if I should keep doing certain actions since it may be the subconscious telling me to stop doing certain things, or simply I need to keep pushing through. It happens every time I think about hitting hard during launch or doing a lot of preparations. Maybe it's telling me to enjoy life more? I feel very passive most of the time, don't understand why. |