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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Omni3 - 10-04-2020

(10-03-2020, 03:42 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: I know that there are newcomers here and that some of them  don't get it or understand the value ,the high value I might add of what all goes into even one  of These programs ,much less a 6+1 stage complete set!! it is indeed,  a screaming deal for shure!! a damn good deal,for 600 buck!! .if and when one knows the value of such and the multiple benefits....it can bring then yeah its well worth it.

I was talking to myself about these things last night,it came to mind several times, last evening"  as in " do yawl know lucky we are? just how fortunate with all are,to even know about this kind of technology and then to be tuned in enough,to be open to it,is profound,right down to the ground and thats NO Bull,either.  Just LOOK at what LTU6 is doing for folks here,on their journals..for example and Shannon isnt even finished developing all of the technology and upgrades & optimizations,yet either. damn sam. Amazing,what is and what is to come,as well. dang impressive!!

 Then to Top it off,to set it off,to actually follow through and apply this technology by IML,is flippin phenominal too!! As in using the dang blame program's!!

I've been using Overcoming Fear with Fear Remover 4.9, for the last 2 months and somethings have already happened that have just floored me,damn near to the core. stuff I've had to deal with for decades and when ignorance came my way around it ,twice since I've been running OF, I was supposed  to be nervous as hell,scared,bowled over,stomach knotted up,upset for hours, tossing and turn in the bed hours and hours later,..bothered by it for days on end,none of this happened.
I was slightly nervous ,but it held NO great power over me,like it did before!! Fuk!!! This happened in MY DIRECT LIFE, in real time and space,ect.... and yet it was smoothed over and calm,hours later.....
does it bug me still,yes,but it doesnt run me like before,as it were.
Where else,am I gonna get that kinda result? where? even with all the other wholistic healing things I do ,that damn shure help,in all directions.... and all of it supports the other..empowering.... ect ect ect...so yeah , Hell yeah in fact, its worth it.
something else just came to mind,lemme just square it out for you man,lemme just do that here...these programs have helped me decrease my suffering ,and increase the quality of my Life and all things related, while,being here on this planet.

I say save save save...sell a tv,yard sales,create masks for people....yard work...ya know.... git creative and hungry!!

I know when UMS v2 comes out,that its gonna be thru the roof..... Like some Las Vegas, performer on steriods...a BIG HIT.
I am grounded here,but I almost jumped outta my skin when I read the most  recent responses from Shannon,about UMS v2,this post included. The invisible Made visible....to the profound ' enth !!

1,000,000% agreed. I too am focussed on making sure I bring home the veggiemite to get the 600 bucks in place ready to receive UMS V2. Worth its weight in gold - and much more. Currently on MIR, then back onto OF in the interim. I'll do my darndest to buy UMS V2 at the $600 value point even if I still have OF to finish first - to lock in the value. 

Things were looking a little tight here, so I started 'doing' my affirmations twice/thrice daily, along with the lucky feeling energy/vibe cultivated from running USLM3 a while back and things are now not tight and are looking good. Plus, this week I bought a waterproof/breathable rain jacket for £20 - looks like a £100 jacket - getting looks of attraction wearing it in the shop just now - looking and feeling like a million dollars Smile


Peace and Prosperity.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 10-04-2020

(10-04-2020, 06:35 AM)Omni3 Wrote:
(10-03-2020, 03:42 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: I know that there are newcomers here and that some of them  don't get it or understand the value ,the high value I might add of what all goes into even one  of These programs ,much less a 6+1 stage complete set!! it is indeed,  a screaming deal for shure!! a damn good deal,for 600 buck!! .if and when one knows the value of such and the multiple benefits....it can bring then yeah its well worth it.

I was talking to myself about these things last night,it came to mind several times, last evening"  as in " do yawl know lucky we are? just how fortunate with all are,to even know about this kind of technology and then to be tuned in enough,to be open to it,is profound,right down to the ground and thats NO Bull,either.  Just LOOK at what LTU6 is doing for folks here,on their journals..for example and Shannon isnt even finished developing all of the technology and upgrades & optimizations,yet either. damn sam. Amazing,what is and what is to come,as well. dang impressive!!

 Then to Top it off,to set it off,to actually follow through and apply this technology by IML,is flippin phenominal too!! As in using the dang blame program's!!

I've been using Overcoming Fear with Fear Remover 4.9, for the last 2 months and somethings have already happened that have just floored me,damn near to the core. stuff I've had to deal with for decades and when ignorance came my way around it ,twice since I've been running OF, I was supposed  to be nervous as hell,scared,bowled over,stomach knotted up,upset for hours, tossing and turn in the bed hours and hours later,..bothered by it for days on end,none of this happened.
I was slightly nervous ,but it held NO great power over me,like it did before!! Fuk!!! This happened in MY DIRECT LIFE, in real time and space,ect.... and yet it was smoothed over and calm,hours later.....
does it bug me still,yes,but it doesnt run me like before,as it were.
Where else,am I gonna get that kinda result? where? even with all the other wholistic healing things I do ,that damn shure help,in all directions.... and all of it supports the other..empowering.... ect ect ect...so yeah , Hell yeah in fact, its worth it.
something else just came to mind,lemme just square it out for you man,lemme just do that here...these programs have helped me decrease my suffering ,and increase the quality of my Life and all things related, while,being here on this planet.

I say save save save...sell a tv,yard sales,create masks for people....yard work...ya know.... git creative and hungry!!

I know when UMS v2 comes out,that its gonna be thru the roof..... Like some Las Vegas, performer on steriods...a BIG HIT.
I am grounded here,but I almost jumped outta my skin when I read the most  recent responses from Shannon,about UMS v2,this post included. The invisible Made visible....to the profound ' enth !!

1,000,000% agreed. I too am focussed on making sure I bring home the veggiemite to get the 600 bucks in place ready to receive UMS V2. Worth its weight in gold - and much more. Currently on MIR, then back onto OF in the interim. I'll do my darndest to buy UMS V2 at the $600 value point even if I still have OF to finish first - to lock in the value. 

Things were looking a little tight here, so I started 'doing' my affirmations twice/thrice daily, along with the lucky feeling energy/vibe cultivated from running USLM3 a while back and things are now not tight and are looking good. Plus, this week I bought a waterproof/breathable rain jacket for £20 - looks like a £100 jacket - getting looks of attraction wearing it in the shop just now - looking and feeling like a million dollars Smile


Peace and Prosperity.


 Agreed. thank you Much omni3. much appreciate and thats no bull!! UMSv2 is Gonna Rock da house!!!
Hell I've even thought about the day and time,comes when Shannon begins work on this massive undertaking called UMS v2, the TID from it...bring it own!! Ha!!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - apollolux - 10-04-2020

(10-03-2020, 12:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: If a person can't afford $114.95 a month right now, then they will have to start saving.  Otherwise, we can't make a deal because I can't give away that much time, effort, energy, expertise, focus and work for that little forever.  For what went into it and what you are getting, $600 a copy is a screaming deal!  The issue is that people have become so impatient that "saving up for something" has gone right out the window.  Nobody thinks of saving anymore.

As someone who's gone through (and is still going through) difficult financial times, this is absolutely NOT the correct conclusion to reach about even a $114.95 price, let alone a $600 one, for ANY subliminal motivational audio program and has been parroted here so much it might as well be a strawman argument. Impatience is real, certainly, but the REAL issue that anyone coming here would have with pricing like that is the "value" argument that has been brought up here before but for some reason downplayed in recent years. More specifically: the value of "one audio file" with a script not available to anyone but the sole writer written and produced over the course of approximately one month regardless of how much time and effort it took beforehand to reach the level of knowledge and writing speed to make the production only take one month, versus something like a major console video game priced at $69.99 developed and produced by a team of potentially hundreds of people over the course of approximately one year regardless of how much time and effort it took each of those people to reach their individual knowledge and speed levels. In addition, the subliminal often has a prescribed listening regimen while the video games may have campaigns designed to last dozens of hours but almost certainly designed as well to addict for more. On top of that, major video games have insane amounts of marketing designed to hook and subliminal programs have relatively little to no marketing of any kind beyond word of mouth.

Even now in 2020 and amidst a reportedly raging viral pandemic, adults and even children will still save up their monies for video games, even if they also have to save the money to also get a new console on top of that to play those particular video games. Those who choose PC for "AAA" gaming also do this, but instead of whole consoles it's piece by piece (especially graphics cards, which are now on the higher end costing more than whole consoles). People still gladly pre-order games even before knowing how they will turn out. The key issue isn't, and I would argue almost never has been, impatience, the key issue is perception of value, potential to hook and addict, and marketing.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 10-04-2020

(10-03-2020, 09:27 AM)Aventus45 Wrote:
(10-03-2020, 08:51 AM)Theron Wrote: Does UMS mean Ultimate Money/Monetary Success?  I  got the V1 and it worked very well. Is the second one going to be set up as a six stage with $600 price?  

Phew, that will put the money making sub out of reach for a lot of folks!!

I hope the next version of the money sub would be close to reach for many who need it.

Pro tip: use the first version to get enough money for the second version. Haha. 

Honestly I’m just glad it’s at 600 to begin with. I was fully expecting it to be double or triple the amount.


 Brilliant!!  That statement...yup.."use UMS1" to get UMS v2. Gold!! Love it. ding ding! bonus round!!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - samba99 - 10-05-2020

Shannon,

Can you clarify something about energy and attracting similar energy (manifestation)

For example if person A is always angry, then it means he generates aura of anger, which therefore attracts to him experiences and events that lead to anger. Is this understanding is correct?

If it is, then in the case of DMSI when we use the program, it should take us to events and experiences that lead to sex. Correct?

What I am trying to say, is the user responsibile for placing himself physically in events that lead to achieve DMSI goals. Or simply by having a sexual aura around us, the events and experiences should come to us?


I ask this because if the goal of DMSI is to attract whoever we are attracted to sexually. Then we first need to be in that event, then we can proceed with attracting the said target. Now, does DMSI takes care of that element?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - reki - 10-05-2020

(10-02-2020, 04:37 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-01-2020, 12:24 PM)reki Wrote: "E4 is not the same in stand alone form as it is in LTUv6. There are significant differences in how it is built to optimize it's effectiveness as a stand alone. I have said it before and I will say it again, this is an iron fist in a velvet glove. That means it's designed to achieve it's goals without fail, while being firm but not forcible. It will not be something you can use and get away with playing around.

If you use it properly, I am very confident that you will get the results. I tried to make it as comfortable a process as possible, but this is not a program you want to try to use if your real goal is to run a sub to say you're doing something while not actually achieving any results. This program is tuned to levels of power I have never used before. It is a BEAST. Honestly, I was amazed when the build specs came out of the models. I had to keep running the models for three extra days to verify them.

EHPRA v4 stand alone is 5.75.2G like its parent program LTUv6, but it is tuned to an even a higher level of power, and of course it is focused on just this goal. If you use this, be prepared to make progress."

What does Shannon mean by "you want to try to use if your real goal is to run a sub to say you're doing something while not actually achieving any results"?

Also what's the difference between 5.75g and 5.75.2g?

Shannon means... if you're using the program to "say" you are trying to get the results, but really you just want an excuse to stagnate while using the program... it won't work.  Sometimes, people will do that; occasionally, they even do it with conscious knowledge and intent.

The difference between 5.75G and 5.75.2G is that 5.75.2G is built using Platinum Lake and includes the breakthrough I came up with after figuring out Platinum Lake.  But the programs are not going to all be given a designation of .1, .2, .3, etc. at the end.  Most likely they'll be just labeled 5.75G.

That final .x is how many breakthroughs are present after 5.75G was stabilized.

Correct me if I'm wrong but my analogy here is that this new 5.75.2g is stopping the "not doing anything" because I am using a sub. For instance I used Alpha Male 6 before and instead of me going out and achieving my goals I instead play video games and say to my self it's ok to waste time because I am listening to AM6 subs?

I feel like I am in this state right now in using the E1 5g sub for two months now. I have felt some internal feelings of changes in the first month but lately around the 2nd and now going on my 3rd month, I feel I am stagnating. I increased my usage already from 9 hours per day to 12 hours per day but still not much improvement.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Jake2015 - 10-05-2020

@Shannon I may finally be executing. Still early days but if you read my latest journal entry I could be and wow if I am!!!
(Also Josh is waiting on a reply on my thread from you lol)

Is it okay to use painkillers for the headaches if indeed they are due to the subs?

thanks


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Theron - 10-05-2020

(10-04-2020, 05:55 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:
(10-03-2020, 09:27 AM)Aventus45 Wrote:
(10-03-2020, 08:51 AM)Theron Wrote: Does UMS mean Ultimate Money/Monetary Success?  I  got the V1 and it worked very well. Is the second one going to be set up as a six stage with $600 price?  

Phew, that will put the money making sub out of reach for a lot of folks!!

I hope the next version of the money sub would be close to reach for many who need it.

Pro tip: use the first version to get enough money for the second version. Haha. 

Honestly I’m just glad it’s at 600 to begin with. I was fully expecting it to be double or triple the amount.


 Brilliant!!  That statement...yup.."use UMS1" to get UMS v2. Gold!! Love it. ding ding! bonus round!!

I know some folks are excited about possiblities and willing to pay the price. Shannon said he is doing this way because some people did not feel the V1. 

From an outsider's perspective imagine this, V1 bought for $114, didnt work, better version available at $600 would you buy it?

Plus as someone else said, it is also a question of perceived value. 

I fully agree with the idea of saving money to buy what you cannot afford.That is the best way to do it. No argument there. Let's wait and watch how the story unfolds.

Obviously the producer is free to name his price and the ones who are willing to pay will buy it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Yous - 10-05-2020

(10-03-2020, 12:01 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-03-2020, 08:51 AM)Theron Wrote: Does UMS mean Ultimate Money/Monetary Success?  I  got the V1 and it worked very well. Is the second one going to be set up as a six stage with $600 price?  

Phew, that will put the money making sub out of reach for a lot of folks!!

I hope the next version of the money sub would be close to reach for many who need it.

UMS v2 will be released as a 6+1 stage set.  As much as I love v1 to death, some people didn't get the results I wanted them to get because it's not overcoming their fears well enough and it's trying to pack everything into one stage.

UMS v2 will be lightyears ahead of v1 in terms of power and technology, even if I do absolutely nothing to change the Key script and add nothing to the Key Script.  It also takes me months to build 5.75G multi-stage sets.  For the amount of development that has gone into it, and is going into it, and the amount of time, effort and everything else it will require to build it, I would personally very much like to be charging vastly more than the introductory price of $600 a copy.  

Think about this... seven stages.  It takes me - working at 100% focus and motivation - 3 days to turn a stage script into a subliminal audio program.  I don't like pushing myself that hard because then mistakes start showing up, so we'll say 4 days.  If I work without ever taking a break, making those 7 stages would take me 7 x 4 = 28 days, working around 10 hours a day minimum.

But to get to the point that I can build the audio from the stages, I have to upgrade the original script and then add all the new scripting requirements and then add any new additions and then weave the Master Key Script out into Stage Key Scripts.  And then I have to verify each script has no errors.  This delightful process also takes me about a month.

Now let's add in my breaks during the actual build process - I need a couple days after each stage is built to rest my mind (which prevents making mistakes).  So each stage now takes 6 days.  7x6=54, so now we have a total build time of almost 2 months.  Making the whole process require... ~3 months.

To just UPGRADE and build one program script.

Then I am offering it at an introductory price of $600 a copy.  That's less than you can get it for at $114.95 per stage.  And that $114.95 per stage is the price we charge for 5.5G subs, and the only reason it hasn't been raised for 5.75G yet is because of this pandemic making it difficult for people to make money.

We will also be offering it stage by stage at $114.95 per stage to begin with.  For those who can't do $600 for the whole set.  Sure, they will have to pay $804.65 for the entire set at that price, but they'll be able to get it $114.95 at a time, and that price gets locked in for each stage as long as they bought Stage 1 for that price.

When this whole pandemic is over, the price is going to go up significantly for 5.75G and for the multi-stage 5.75G programs as well.  

If a person can't afford $114.95 a month right now, then they will have to start saving.  Otherwise, we can't make a deal because I can't give away that much time, effort, energy, expertise, focus and work for that little forever.  For what went into it and what you are getting, $600 a copy is a screaming deal!  The issue is that people have become so impatient that "saving up for something" has gone right out the window.  Nobody thinks of saving anymore.

Unfortunately this is not the work its the results. If it works well the program will have a good price or even will be low if not it will be really expensive.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - jonathan4all - 10-05-2020

Please add MLS in ums2. Accelerating Learning is always needed for doing big in life.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - fab10 - 10-05-2020

(10-05-2020, 09:20 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: I may finally be executing.

Hey, congrats!! I was always reading your posts hoping to read this news. It’s really hard to resist these latest generation. 

Removing that negative signature was a great idea, it made me feel like at some level you were almost proud of not executing.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Jake2015 - 10-05-2020

(10-05-2020, 02:11 PM)fab10 Wrote:
(10-05-2020, 09:20 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: I may finally be executing.

Hey, congrats!! I was always reading your posts hoping to read this news. It’s really hard to resist these latest generation. 

Removing that negative signature was a great idea, it made me feel like at some level you were almost proud of not executing.

Haha thanks man! im optimistic and really hoping this is the case now so lets see what happens Smile

yeah thank you for that! and since Shannon gave me specific instructions it kinda felt like all the worries had left as to how to play the subs, now there is just play and sleep for me!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 10-05-2020

(10-05-2020, 01:01 PM)jonathan4all Wrote: Please add MLS in ums2. Accelerating Learning is always needed for doing big in life.
 I disagree, that is NOT what is Universally needed for everyone to 'make it'. MY vote on that is No.

 As far the value..... Overcoming fear has worked and continues to work amazingly..when FRM 4.9-5.0 appplied with
 Platinum Build,Break throughs 1,2 & 3...and goodness knows what all else by that time....UMSv2 is  gonna pay for it self in short order.... even if one's income  ONLY went up 200 bucks a month,thats more than 114.95$ per stage per month.. if it really true that the subconscious ALREADY knows who to do thus and such to bring the treasures to you...and I absolutely believe it does,that means you dont have to know all the details of how it does it,but you know it does. The proof is in the pudding. I dont have to know how all the parts and other part work/connect went I star my truck,I just need to know that baby's revivin and Im ready to git to where Im going. I dont need an additional mechanic to do that for me,I already KNOW how to drive and put gas in it,air for the tired,sparks,ect.

 were also talkin about a highly upgraded version of USLM 4..... in there as well,I assume it would be like the 1st version of UMS1...only its USLM4 the latest and not the earlier  versions.


 Moving on ,hows work on DMSI and how is LTU6 going for you all,Shannon & GF?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - AriGold - 10-05-2020

Keith, I answered to that (MLS in UMS2) in the UMS2-Thread so that the information does not get buried in all those discussion pages.