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RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - Benjamin - 04-01-2025
Interesting that you're both reporting a similar thing, maybe that speaks to how much deeper 6g is going and it's digging all of that up and working on it.
When I say presence though I don't mean another personality or persona. I'm referring to it as in having a strong presence, like being noticed, standing out, having people drawn to you and such. Confidence, groundedness, being magnetic to other people. That kind of thing.
RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - NOMAD - 04-01-2025
I experienced that too, but it was deep and nuanced. I know exactly what Shannon meant by focusing the user into his masculinity.
RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - LionKing - 04-01-2025
(Yesterday, 04:43 PM)Benjamin Wrote: When I say presence though I don't mean another personality or persona. I'm referring to it as in having a strong presence, like being noticed, standing out, having people drawn to you and such. Confidence, groundedness, being magnetic to other people. That kind of thing.
Probably about the same thing, I just explained myself badly. Not another persona but more like a power up effect from the sub was active on me when running PM and then after switching that power up was no longer there. "focusing the user into his masculinity", that focus could perhaps create the effect, or something related to projecting PM's aura component. Expressing and projecting the same thing, maybe.
Like if I could have coffee that'd morph me into the size, shape and smell of the Hulk (without the personality switch) and I'd feel confident being that strong and feeling good that people knew I was that strong, and then next week I had to go to the same places without my coffee (PM), as just me. On OSC, I don't have a similar effect I could point to but I do act more confidently in a lot of situations so I think I'm beginning to trust that more. I'll say that I'm still feeling a lot of doubt, stress, etc when working by myself or thinking about going somewhere; the confidence is more apparent when actually in that situation. I'd hope OGSF would clear that base state out more. Still debating internally whether I'll join you guys on OGSF in 1-2 weeks or just do a rerun of OSC.
RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - Benjamin - 04-02-2025
Quote:I experienced that too, but it was deep and nuanced. I know exactly what Shannon meant by focusing the user into his masculinity.
I figured you knew what I meant from your comments in the past, it was just what LionKing said that I was clarifying.
That masculine, grounded feeling in the background did feel good.
Quote:Probably about the same thing, I just explained myself badly. Not another persona but more like a power up effect from the sub was active on me when running PM and then after switching that power up was no longer there. "focusing the user into his masculinity", that focus could perhaps create the effect, or something related to projecting PM's aura component. Expressing and projecting the same thing, maybe.
Like if I could have coffee that'd morph me into the size, shape and smell of the Hulk (without the personality switch) and I'd feel confident being that strong and feeling good that people knew I was that strong, and then next week I had to go to the same places without my coffee (PM), as just me. On OSC, I don't have a similar effect I could point to but I do act more confidently in a lot of situations so I think I'm beginning to trust that more. I'll say that I'm still feeling a lot of doubt, stress, etc when working by myself or thinking about going somewhere; the confidence is more apparent when actually in that situation. I'd hope OGSF would clear that base state out more. Still debating internally whether I'll join you guys on OGSF in 1-2 weeks or just do a rerun of OSC.
What you're explaining is something I have noticed after stopping programs in the past, and with PM too as i'm missing that presence and vibe I had.
The feeling at toastmasters compared to the one previously when on PM was much different, I felt weak, didn't have that presence and it made me feel a bit depressed and down actually. Like I was being paid attention to much more when I had that, but then last week not so much.
I had similar on DMSI when I got a bit depressed at not having the same reactions after I stopped it.
RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - Benjamin - 04-02-2025
Tonight is my first night off, i'm not really looking forward to it. I have this feeling that I need and want more input, but I wonder if that's old force of habit from listening to previous programs for many more hours and still feeilng strange that it's only 10 minutes of listening. Anyway i'm sticking to the instructions.
Yesterday for about half the day and some of the day today some feeling depressed and some upheaval. But it's passed now, for today.
Yesterday and today the urge to look at porn has been coming up. It's more subdued and it's on and off. I'll be thinking about it and wanting to do so, then forget about it for a while, maybe breathe a bit then it'll come back, but it's not overwhelming. It wasn't triggered by anything externally and i've also been thinking about girls from the past last night and today, so something is being worked on.
Today especially i've been having this feeling that I just want to do something else, spend my time in some other way that is more constructive, but not really knowing what that would be. Also interest in finding other things to join. The bs being brought into toastmasters that i've mentioned in the last few meetings are part of it, on PM I just wanted to push back against it and felt more enthused to do so, on OGSF I just want to move away from it and feel like it's not worth the bullshit and trouble as it won't achieve much. I do prefer to push back against nonsense but it's feeling like that's more for the future with Masculinity programs and similar and not as much while on OGSF, like it's telling me it's not good for my healing.
I've kept saying that I will keep doing toastmasters as there is nothing else, but since starting OGSF i'm actually seriously thinking about quitting. But then I won't have much social other than when I see friends maybe every few weekends as I haven't found any other clubs or activities that I want to do.
RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - Benjamin - 04-02-2025
Yesterday I was happy that I woke up in the morning and didn't want to look at facebook on my phone in bed, though this morning the urge had come back. I don't remember if I did this morning now somehow.
But I mentioned yesterday some feeling down and it passed, well today after my first night off I feel more depressed and I can't really see a reason behind it, wanting to look at more bullshit on facebook and such. There's this sadness there behind my eyes, maybe partly a feeling of wanting to cry but it seems it's in the background i'd say due to the programming to consciously shield it, I have a feeling it's deeper than just what i'm feeling on the surface.
RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - Shannon - 04-02-2025
OGSF v3 goes to great lengths to minimize your conscious discomfort working through these things.
RE: Unlocking My Full Expression (OGSF v3 6g) - Benjamin - 04-02-2025
(2 hours ago)Shannon Wrote: OGSF v3 goes to great lengths to minimize your conscious discomfort working through these things.
I'm grateful for that programming.
So after I got off the computer (desktop) to find something else to do, I felt much noticably better. I ended up turning the internet off, taking my laptop into my shed where I train and watched a training video for an hour or so.
It does match my observation that at times depression is telling me "you're just wasting time with stupid bullshit" and trying to push me to something different, yet when stuck in the middle of that it can be difficult to notice that and it can make me instead goto coping mechanisms.
So now i've relaxed a fair bit and can come back and plan my training for today's session.