(08-25-2025, 12:59 AM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon Just read your most recent post in your journal and all I have to say is: fuck yeah. Thank you for being you.

(08-25-2025, 12:59 AM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon Just read your most recent post in your journal and all I have to say is: fuck yeah. Thank you for being you.

(08-25-2025, 12:59 AM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon Just read your most recent post in your journal and all I have to say is: fuck yeah. Thank you for being you.

(08-24-2025, 11:17 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Ah that latest post on AM7 in Shannon's journal is a massive breath of fresh air.

With the massive amount of COMPLETE nonsense around so called 'masculinity' in the world, which even extends to so called 'masculinity' coaches spouting weak shit, destroying actual masculinity, 'divine masculine' bullshit and other spiritual or 'new age' nonsense around it all.

Also not catering for anyone pretending to be what they can never be just for the sake of being pc. Whenever I see any of that nonsense from 'masculinity' coaches catering to that it's an instant no for me.

I'm of the opinion that this stuff NEEDS to upset certain crowds now, and that will be an indication of it's effectiveness. Because things have gone massively too far the other way of weakening men. I've read books on 'masculinity' (I keep doing quotations for the people who say they teach it but it's bs) and it's started with all kinds of bullshit apologies and such trying to soften it for those trying to destroy us for all these years hoping that if they bow down and kiss their ass maybe they won't get upset at the author having the gall to actually try to build men up!

It's getting extremely hard to find good stuff in this area and all the teachings are getting further and further away from it. A rare few really embody it and you can see it in their vibe, but most of those aren't offering programs to change subconsciously, just more 'information'. I have enough information.

But in saying that, it would be interesting at some stage maybe coinciding with the release of AM7 whenever that is, to either have an updated thread/post or even on the description page in detail of the current description of an Ascendant Alpha, similar to this past post. So that we can understand what it's going for.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-What-is-an-Alpha-male?pid=34957#pid34957

Also I wasn't sure and was thinking about it, but I think the full upgrade choice is a good one.

(08-25-2025, 03:02 AM)thectexperience1 Wrote:

(08-23-2025, 11:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: Theoretically, it would seem logically possible, wouldn't it?  But realistically, it's about like dropping a grand piano on your head and expecting beautiful music to result.  

They are the same title, but the scripting is different, the metascripting is different, the methodology is different and technology is different.  So the 5G version really cannot prepare you for stage 4 of the 6G version.  You should run the whole program according to the instructions.  Otherwise, I would have just said in the instructions... if you've been using the 5G version previously, within X amount of time, you can just get and use Stage 4.

Thanks, Shannon. Love the piano analogy. So then how long a break do you suggest between UMS 5G and UMS 6G?

Quote:I'm painfully aware that you're basically a magician inventing magic potions and we come back on here with questions like, "Duh did he say to boil da herb?"

For what it's worth, from our perspective we're dealing with strong medicine. We want to make doubly sure we get the usage right.

(08-25-2025, 09:09 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Hi Shannon,

It might just be me being a bit sensitive, but when I read the phrase “like a bitch” in the Alpha Male post in your private journal, the tone felt a little different from what I personally associate with an Ascendent Alpha  (though I realize that’s my own standard). I know everyone carries their own idea of what that ideal looks like, but it left me wondering if the program might lean in a certain direction rather than being fully “neutral,” where each person can find their own version of it.

That might simply mean this program isn’t the right fit for me, and that I’d resonate more with Maverick. I just wanted to share that impression in case it’s helpful feedback.

(08-25-2025, 11:07 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-25-2025, 09:09 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Hi Shannon,

It might just be me being a bit sensitive, but when I read the phrase “like a bitch” in the Alpha Male post in your private journal, the tone felt a little different from what I personally associate with an Ascendent Alpha  (though I realize that’s my own standard). I know everyone carries their own idea of what that ideal looks like, but it left me wondering if the program might lean in a certain direction rather than being fully “neutral,” where each person can find their own version of it.

That might simply mean this program isn’t the right fit for me, and that I’d resonate more with Maverick. I just wanted to share that impression in case it’s helpful feedback.

The idea is simple.  You're going to be challenged running this program, and you're either going to do what it takes to achieve the goal, or you're going to choose to run away instead.

If you're going to run this program, you obviously want to become an ascendant alpha.  If you're going to run away instead of doing what it takes, you're obviously not ready for that.  

"Like a bitch" is a direct statement.  I'm saying that because a man doesn't run away from challenges, even if he's not an alpha.  He may consider the challenge and make the choice not to accept it.  But going in knowing that he's going to be challenged and made to step up and grow, and then stopping afterwards to run away, is ridiculous. It's pathetic. I don't respect that at all.  Just like what they had Luke Skywalker do in the 7th Star Wars movie.  He gave up, and threw in the towel, instead of doing the good that he could have done, for himself and others.  Terrible storytelling.  I would have been laughed out of my Freshmen year of college for handing in that script in my Creative Writing class.

A boy is unwilling to take personal responsibility.  A girl (and lately, plenty of little girls in adult female bodies) are unwilling to take personal responsibility for themselves. But a man does take personal responsibility.  He knows he has to, because otherwise, he, his family, his community and all of society falls apart.  And as such, he knows that he has the potential - no, the responsibility - to make the world a better place by his actions and his example.  He has the potential to help make the world be the world he wants to see, instead of what laziness, selfishness, greed and corruption are making it.  

A man knows that means that he has the responsibility to himself to grow and improve himself, make himself better than he is now, and always strive to be improving, no matter what he achieves.  And a man knows that life will be difficult for him, because of his natural role, because of his place in the world, because of what his job in a healthy family and society is.  He also knows that that simply is what it is, and he gets on with facing it, doing what it takes and working to achieve his goals anyway.

Whether he only leads himself, or he leads a nation, a man knows that challenges are simply a part of life, and that they are a gift in disguise.  Every challenge holds within it the potential for improvement, if he faces it, and does what it takes to address it and overcome it.  A man cannot be truly happy unless he is expressing his masculine energy, which needs a challenge to make it live.  That challenge may be within him, or outside of him, but masculinity needs a challenge, because that is what masculine energy thrives on:  action, achievement, improvement, success.  That is why society has advanced over the millennia with the contributions men have made, such as roads, wheels, aqueducts, buildings, sanitary sewers, pulleys, engines, motors, electricity, air conditioning, telephones, radio, and on and on and on.  Because men had this energy and drive to do, achieve, overcome, improve and succeed.

So if you know, going in, that this is going to challenge you, it's going to stress you, it's going to put you under pressure and it's going to break you down and build you back up again better, stronger and more valuable, and then you stop in the middle "because you can't handle it", that's acting like a bitch.  That's running away from the challenge instead of making the changes you need to make to achieve the goal.  That's the antithesis of masculinity, when you're running a program designed and intended to enhance, improve and magnify your masculinity.  

If you're not up for that kind of challenge, fine.  There are legitimate reasons why someone might not be.  If you want the goals of the program, though, then you're going to do whatever it takes to get them.  If that means making yourself ready and able to run that program, then that's what you do.  If that means you face the harsh facts and truths about yourself as you are that have made you what you are, which is not the Ascendant Alpha you want to be, then that's what you do.  But it's downright pathetic to go in knowing what's going to be required of you, and then giving up and running away after you start.  

In simpler terms, don't start running an Alpha Male Training subliminal and then give up when the going gets tough and do the complete reverse of what an Alpha Male would do if you want anyone to take you seriously.  "Like a bitch" is an expression of scorn and lack of respect for that course of action.

(08-25-2025, 12:06 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: I appreciate the depth you shared in your reply and the way you framed the importance of responsibility and challenge.

What I’m reacting to, though, is the use of a derogatory term toward women, which doesn’t feel aligned with the ideal the Ascendent Alpha is meant to embody. In my own experience, I’ve known women who showed a stronger sense of responsibility than many men I’ve met, so the wording felt out of place.

I have great confidence in your abilities and have used your programs for years with success. Still, with a program designed to challenge users so deeply, seeing that kind of language makes me cautious about the type of attitude it might reinforce and how well it allows each individual to find their own definition of the Ascendent Alpha.

Of course, this may simply be my own sensitivity, but I thought it was worth sharing since it was the honest reaction I had.

(08-25-2025, 04:50 PM)Benjamin Wrote:

(08-25-2025, 12:06 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: I appreciate the depth you shared in your reply and the way you framed the importance of responsibility and challenge.

What I’m reacting to, though, is the use of a derogatory term toward women, which doesn’t feel aligned with the ideal the Ascendent Alpha is meant to embody. In my own experience, I’ve known women who showed a stronger sense of responsibility than many men I’ve met, so the wording felt out of place.

I have great confidence in your abilities and have used your programs for years with success. Still, with a program designed to challenge users so deeply, seeing that kind of language makes me cautious about the type of attitude it might reinforce and how well it allows each individual to find their own definition of the Ascendent Alpha.

Of course, this may simply be my own sensitivity, but I thought it was worth sharing since it was the honest reaction I had.

This program is not for you.

You continually post emasculated crap, and now are trying to bring this nonsense where it said absolutely nothing derogotory whatsoever about women and trying to be manipulative by concern trolling, and fake 'being offended' to try to force him to weaken the message and intent, also as an attempt to get fake brownie points from the people who are destroying masculinity and who hate men. Pretending it's 'helpful feedback' when it's obvious that is not your intent.

Stop trying to come in like a male feminist and try to water things down, as you can see from the multiple posts in support most of us men are sick of that shit. With the stuff you've shared around masculinity i'm glad it makes you cautious, cos your beliefs and information are the weak fake spiritual new age masculinity stuff that is absolutely horrible for men.

What you're representing is exactly all of what I was saying in my first post.

Yes it is your own sensitivity and massive brainwashing that you're now trying to project onto other men who have an opportunity to finally find a program that ACTUALLY represents real masculinity.

(08-25-2025, 12:06 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote:

(08-25-2025, 11:07 AM)Shannon Wrote: The idea is simple.  You're going to be challenged running this program, and you're either going to do what it takes to achieve the goal, or you're going to choose to run away instead.

If you're going to run this program, you obviously want to become an ascendant alpha.  If you're going to run away instead of doing what it takes, you're obviously not ready for that.  

"Like a bitch" is a direct statement.  I'm saying that because a man doesn't run away from challenges, even if he's not an alpha.  He may consider the challenge and make the choice not to accept it.  But going in knowing that he's going to be challenged and made to step up and grow, and then stopping afterwards to run away, is ridiculous. It's pathetic. I don't respect that at all.  Just like what they had Luke Skywalker do in the 7th Star Wars movie.  He gave up, and threw in the towel, instead of doing the good that he could have done, for himself and others.  Terrible storytelling.  I would have been laughed out of my Freshmen year of college for handing in that script in my Creative Writing class.

A boy is unwilling to take personal responsibility.  A girl (and lately, plenty of little girls in adult female bodies) are unwilling to take personal responsibility for themselves. But a man does take personal responsibility.  He knows he has to, because otherwise, he, his family, his community and all of society falls apart.  And as such, he knows that he has the potential - no, the responsibility - to make the world a better place by his actions and his example.  He has the potential to help make the world be the world he wants to see, instead of what laziness, selfishness, greed and corruption are making it.  

A man knows that means that he has the responsibility to himself to grow and improve himself, make himself better than he is now, and always strive to be improving, no matter what he achieves.  And a man knows that life will be difficult for him, because of his natural role, because of his place in the world, because of what his job in a healthy family and society is.  He also knows that that simply is what it is, and he gets on with facing it, doing what it takes and working to achieve his goals anyway.

Whether he only leads himself, or he leads a nation, a man knows that challenges are simply a part of life, and that they are a gift in disguise.  Every challenge holds within it the potential for improvement, if he faces it, and does what it takes to address it and overcome it.  A man cannot be truly happy unless he is expressing his masculine energy, which needs a challenge to make it live.  That challenge may be within him, or outside of him, but masculinity needs a challenge, because that is what masculine energy thrives on:  action, achievement, improvement, success.  That is why society has advanced over the millennia with the contributions men have made, such as roads, wheels, aqueducts, buildings, sanitary sewers, pulleys, engines, motors, electricity, air conditioning, telephones, radio, and on and on and on.  Because men had this energy and drive to do, achieve, overcome, improve and succeed.

So if you know, going in, that this is going to challenge you, it's going to stress you, it's going to put you under pressure and it's going to break you down and build you back up again better, stronger and more valuable, and then you stop in the middle "because you can't handle it", that's acting like a bitch.  That's running away from the challenge instead of making the changes you need to make to achieve the goal.  That's the antithesis of masculinity, when you're running a program designed and intended to enhance, improve and magnify your masculinity.  

If you're not up for that kind of challenge, fine.  There are legitimate reasons why someone might not be.  If you want the goals of the program, though, then you're going to do whatever it takes to get them.  If that means making yourself ready and able to run that program, then that's what you do.  If that means you face the harsh facts and truths about yourself as you are that have made you what you are, which is not the Ascendant Alpha you want to be, then that's what you do.  But it's downright pathetic to go in knowing what's going to be required of you, and then giving up and running away after you start.  

In simpler terms, don't start running an Alpha Male Training subliminal and then give up when the going gets tough and do the complete reverse of what an Alpha Male would do if you want anyone to take you seriously.  "Like a bitch" is an expression of scorn and lack of respect for that course of action.

I appreciate the depth you shared in your reply and the way you framed the importance of responsibility and challenge.

What I’m reacting to, though, is the use of a derogatory term toward women, which doesn’t feel aligned with the ideal the Ascendent Alpha is meant to embody. In my own experience, I’ve known women who showed a stronger sense of responsibility than many men I’ve met, so the wording felt out of place.

I have great confidence in your abilities and have used your programs for years with success. Still, with a program designed to challenge users so deeply, seeing that kind of language makes me cautious about the type of attitude it might reinforce and how well it allows each individual to find their own definition of the Ascendent Alpha.

Of course, this may simply be my own sensitivity, but I thought it was worth sharing since it was the honest reaction I had.