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RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-12-2017 I can't say I really know what should be different, not really knowing what's gone into it. But I still stick to the whole 'gender neutral' stuff being a very bad idea. It's also seemed to have caused other issues fucking my head up because of that whole thing which has lead me to conclude that it's unhealthy having it that way just to include more people. At this point I just want to stop and get it out of my head. My thought last night is that DMSI has dragged me through hell for little result, continually stuck to it through this big intensity many times hoping it would breakthrough yet it hasn't. Still got pain in my temple today, not that noticable just sitting here but if I bend over and my head is hanging, or if I move a bit fast it hurts. I'm even a bit scared to do my mindfulness stuff today after yesterday as if that crazy reaction I had happened after then it may have triggered it. The other thing that I forgot convieniently because I got caught up in my old pattern again, is that girls shouldn't be my priority now and even to fully achieve the goals of DMSI i'd have to not live where I am because of the lack of opportunities, and for that I need to have money in order which is one of my worst areas. But I forgot that again, got obsessed with girls again especially switching back to B though it was only meant to be for the month.. I still got caught up in it. Frustration and desperation reached a massive level last night. I couldn't sleep for hours and was getting so frustrated and desperate for girls. Interestingly today i'm confused because I woke up barely even caring. I had a few thoughts of using that desperation and rechannel it into dealing with money so that I can move somewhere better. I understand it's not healthy using that kind of thing to motivate me and drive myself to move somewhere just for girls. But maybe it will help a bit. I am thinking of trying Universal Detox briefly, as it will continue the healing I assume but not make me obsessed with girls, part of DMSIs motivation seems to do that and back you into a corner to motivate you to go and get sex, well increasing my frustration and baggage around that so much that I beat myself up more like I always have isn't actually useful for me especially being limited by the environment. If I was somewhere bigger then i'd likely have slept with one girl atleast from online just because I could send out way more messages. Plus UD might also help with a health issue that i've mostly got in check but comes up every now and then. I thought of using MHS for it, but UD should help with the detox and also with the emotional part. But not many people are reporting on it so I don't really know how suited it is for emotional healing like i'm wanting. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-12-2017 Holy fuck... what this guy says about the gym and hoping it will help with the pain inside by getting big and strong is spot on. And it also explains a bit why sometimes I go through healing and start losing motivation and focus at the gym.. like it's being driven by the old insecurity sometimes. I will likely get back into Somatic Experiencing again soon, or some Bioenergetics. Though with Bioenergetics I can only do skype sessions as there's nobody around here, and i'm not sure how effective that would be. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-12-2017 Fuck.. no idea what this is. Went to the gym and just doing some light box jumps the side of my head started to hurt and throb a bit. Did my warmup for squats and noticed the light through the fan more than I ever have which was weird, then I was talking to the gym instructor about it and noticed my head started to get cloudy. Just doing light stuff was having that effect so I decided it was best not to do my proper workout, if I added weight to squats it would have just got worse. That's fucked, i've NEVER walked out of the gym not completing a workout. But after how yesterday was and noticing little elements of it I thought it was for the best. I left and was feeling scared, which makes me wonder if it's something emotional bringing it on. Sensetivity to light is another migraine symptom, but i've never had one in my life and for it to suddenly come on after doing emotional clearing yesterday.. WTF. If it stays around I guess i'll have to goto the doctor, but I fucking hate doctors and they have continually proven themselves to be mostly useless. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-13-2017 I've written a little bit of it, I don't really feel like expanding more right now because though it's all truthful it'll just come across as whinging and negativity. But there's no point me continuing another 3 weeks just to reach the date I initially decided. Again today was the whole feeling of 'Oh something could just be about to break through' but i've felt that enough times and not really got a breakthrough to realize if it hasn't happened in like 9 months of listening it won't suddenly happen now. It's more than enough time to give it a chance, at this point there's no running away, there's just realizing it's not getting me there. So goodbye DMSI. Not sure what's next, most likely continuing some of the other healing methods i'm doing while taking a break from subliminals. End of DMSI Wednesday 13/9/17. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Have at ye - 09-13-2017 Good luck! Do report on anything potentially bloom-related, though. ![]() I've had a similar experience with those not-quite-migraine-but-sorta things you've been describing. It is most probably related to something the sub is doing/resistance/and-or the ASS-ART kicking in. F. in. last week I got irked by something my ex texted me, and for about an hour afterwards I was like: "why the hell am I seeing double?", somewhat jittery and quite irritable. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-13-2017 Yeah I will if there's anything. Mine was pretty intense yesterday, hand numb, tongue a bit numb, just felt out of it, alot of bluriness in my vision, what they call an 'aura' like spots in the vision, uneasy on my feet a bit. If it's an emotional reaction then it's the craziest emotional reaction i've ever had and i've not had anything close to it. Though now that i'm thinking about it i'm starting to feel a little sick and emotional, fear and like I want to cry which may tell me that it is indeed something emotional. If so it's one of the deepest things in a while to have such crazy physical reactions. I hope I can connect with what's coming up now to work with tomorrow, as I need to goto bed for now. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - ReeZoX - 09-13-2017 Feeling like I've come out on the other side of the tunnel, I'd choose to stick with DMSI. It is quite an amazing program, regardless if it achieves the end goal yet or not. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-13-2017 It did have it's benefits, such as especially on the good days almost every single girl i'd talk to at the gym or who served me in shops was happy to talk, compared to before. But it was just that they were smiley and friendly. It's not like they were actually hitting on me or making it extremely obvious, just more friendly than before. Last night I woke up scared that being off DMSI I might not get that. But in a way it was meaningless 'approval' that didn't lead to anything much. And this is where as i've mentioned before in some ways DMSI may buy into a "I'm not good enough without this aura" instead of legitimately moving you to a place where you KNOW you're good enough and such. Because the aura/energy flooding is temporary, so personally i'm not sure I like that idea and stopping using it if that's what's doing most of that then it might be disallusioning. WM for example didn't have the energy flooding but there was some great reactions from girls. Unfortunately DMSI didn't move me to a place where I can handle and be okay with whatever reaction I get, in some ways it may make that harder when the energy flooding fades a bit because I got used to more good reactions to a point. It would be more useful to move at the identity level instead of energy flooding. Well I guess it has some of that already, but I can't say i've seen much evidence of that working. In the end it was mainly better reactions, but only to a point, hope and more hope, seeming like something is happening but not really happening in the end. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-13-2017 Brief thoughts after first night of not listening. I had the best sleep i've had in a very long time. I woke up feeling weird, insecure, anxious. But after not long that went into a relaxation. That didn't stick around. But the general feeling is I feel like alot of pressure has been taken off. Which brings a thought of some feedback. For me it seems, DMSI.. especially B may be too forceful. And it just ends up in an anger/frustration/fuck this response.. wanting to rage and alot of it being turned internally.. instead of actually going towards the goals. Forcefulness tends to have the opposite effect for me than getting me to do things. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-14-2017 Fuck... been really hungry today. First felt the burning feeling around my eyes which is usually a sign of excess energy, then been way more hungry. Makes me think the aura might be kicking in. But I went down the street and felt by far the worst, insecure and least confident i've been in ages and basically felt like I was repelling girls. So far the 'bloom' is making me feel really hungry and horrible. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - ReeZoX - 09-14-2017 The way I've been using B is to execute the bloom part of A and make me just "push through" everything. I've found using B is like taking down the stone wall in front of you. But that can be really f*cking painful if you just rip down the whole wall, A takes down the stones one by one. B just pulls the damn thing down. So I let A "take down" say half of the wall and then B to rip down the rest. Hunger for me kicks in when I'm clearing something, which usually then also goes hand in hand with feeling crappy. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-14-2017 B definately is full on.. a bit too much for me. Maybe I 'could' have had things happen in a few more weeks, though my set date to finish was the 4th of next month anyway. But it is pretty intense. Hmm I thought hunger was more when the aura was projecting more, but if that was the case I wouldn't have felt so shit today maybe. The other thing I don't know if i've mentioned, the last month or so i've consistently been horny a little more, had more wet dreams than in ages which made me think I was executing a little more than before. But not much past that. I was curious and was looking through my posts and it seems 2.4 though I only used it like once I think, had the most obvious 'being hit on' stuff. But it was also frustrating in that they were very obvious, and sexual but then it amounted to nothing. But it still seemed way closer than 3.1 is where it's just girls are more friendly and smiling but I haven't noticed them obviously hitting on me. Version 1 I didn't have a journal for, I think I only used it once too. I wrote a post somewhere but don't remember where. The past versions seem more powerful in the sexual attraction way, being hit on obviously but seemed to miss the 'comfort' in that they seemed to blow themselves out in the end and it wouldn't go anywhere. 3.1 seems weaker on the sexual attraction but better on the comfort, due to the way most girls have been friendly and happy to talk on it. And going through some older posts it seems more people got laid on earlier versions and also hit on more obviously. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-14-2017 The advantage of these is it was when I was doing security which makes me more comfortable and more confident. But still those reactions aren't typical. Looks like I only done V1 and V2.4 once. It would have been good to see them after a bit more time. This shit was pretty fucking obvious reading it now, can't say i've had anything similar with 3.1. I'm curious how it would go trying one of them again, but that would just be to have some sex in the short term and take me away from what I need to do which is deal with other things and let go of the obsession I put on sex so much. Fuck I don't know, maybe since I finished 3.1 before my planned date I might briefly. V1. Quote:Ended up going to work and found out I wasn't working, but I was there talking to a mate and then they said "it's a bit busy do you want to work anyway". So that's good cos I was going to go home. Staying got me to see what AOSI potentially could do. V2.4. Quote:1 night of just 3 loops, and if this is a taste of DMSI 2.4 then i'm hooked. Though as I said with subliminals I straight away get these awesome results and see a taste then they seem to go until later on. RE: A Journey To Wholeness (DMSI 3.1) - Benjamin - 09-15-2017 I don't know what to say about the bloom. I mentioned it felt like the pressures off, but it seems like the way I was getting along with girls is quickly going downhill, plus insecurities are coming up more than in ages. For a few days though after massive frustration one night I felt less needy and didn't care much. Asked a few girls out i've been talking to online but didn't go anywhere. There was one i'd been talking to that I met in a shoeshop, I decided I didn't really want to see her as she's fat and low quality. But she messaged me today as I said when I run into her last weekend I might go bowling. I thought 'oh fuck it" and suggested we meet sunday. Now this is weird, as soon as I did that alot of deservingness i've been feeling in the last few days seemed to disappear, neediness for sex and such all come back. It's annoying because i'm like "can't I just fucking have some sex while i'm waiting for higher quality girls" seems not.. because it's like my mind goes "Oh you're just trying to be with her, a girl you don't really want just for sex, maybe you don't deserve the other ones you've been talking to." Too coincidental timing how after I messaged her suggesting it how I started to feel like crap. And weirdly she didn't reply, but she usually replies in a day cos girls are weird. But I decided how I felt after sending it that i'll likely cancel on her if she says yes anyway. And another woman messaged me first tonight on POF, and it was either the insecurities coming up after earlier, or DMSI wearing off only after 3 days.. but i've noticed alot of that already, or that i've been playing Divinity Original Sin 2 for hours. But I feel almost retarded in my answers and awkward talking, so much that I stopped even answering because I couldn't be bothered. So in the apparent 'bloom' the little evidence I had of DMSI working is fading, the aura seems to be fading and such. There has been a few instances where with some girls it seemed to be fading then i'd come across a girl and something seemed to be there. Like when I come back into the gym after leaving my shirt, I talked to a girl sitting at the table and she was giggling in a weird way, then the girl who served me when I got coffee was asking me how often I goto the gym and such. But mostly it seems like after only like 3 days most of it is fading. The other weirdness from tonight could also be that when I was doing my mindfulness type healing work I come across something intense, a blockage that's come up in my body many times when staying with emotions and it come up pretty strongly today. So maybe that processing. It's up and down so much. Earlier in the day felt pretty good, not needy, like one of these girls I would be with eventually. Then it all went downhilll and now needy, feeling like it won't happen with any of them and such. So much for the healing and clearing I guess. ![]() |