(06-13-2020, 11:41 AM)Hanpan Wrote:

(06-13-2020, 11:20 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-13-2020, 10:50 AM)Hanpan Wrote: Hey Shannon

Great to hear that the new subs are coming along well.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I decided to use ARA for a few weeks in order to settle in to a new job. ARA together with Tranq A and B have been beautiful so far and everything has worked out extremely well, despite of a very busy start and a lot of logistic difficulties due to Corona. Within a week or two, I expect that I’m ready to drop ARA and move on to something else.

I’ve always thought that I would do the new LTU when it came out. However, my life is going amazingly well, and this lockdown has given me the desire to spend some time meeting girls when the clubs open in August (at least where I live). I prefer to do the approaching myself in order to make sure that I actually find girls who not only look great but that I also want to spend some time with, even if it is not about a serious relationship.

I believe that I’m a great guy for girls to meet, and I’ve had many amazing experiences with girls in the past. However, I do still feel what PUAs would call “approach anxiety” when talking to strangers.

Based on that, what do you think would be the best sub for going out and meeting good looking quality women for the next months? I see three options: 1) The new DMSI might be the obvious choice, but I’m a bit confused about the effects when you do the approaching – I assume that the aura, the shield and FRM will still work in this scenario?  2) another option would be the new OF – I believe (and have referencing showing) that I have a decent charisma and that many girls like me when I can just chill and be relaxed. Hence, if OF could get rid of the above-mentioned “approach anxiety” and just let me be more relaxed in conversations in general, that could make sense as well. Option 3) would be the new LTU, if it contains OF as well (based on the same assumptions as nr. 2).

Would love to hear your take on this.

Thanks a lot in advance.

All of them have their place, but their place depends on the specifics of why you are experiencing this anxiety.  

If you're looking for sex, then DMSI is your best bet unless you know how to transition from sex to romance.  

If you're looking for a relationship, then you have to consider a couple things.  What of these programs is going to result in the best chance of you achieving a relationship with the kind of woman you want?

OF is going to help you get past your fears, but aside from that growth, you will not change from what you are when you start looking, after using it.  It may indeed be very helpful, but it won't "take you to the next level" in general.  It should result in freedom from fear.

LTU6 is going to be a different story.  It isn't focused on fear specifically, and it will take longer to run; 6 months for the next version.  But it will result in broad spectrum growth and improvement within you, and this will in turn result in being much higher social market value and much more valuable to women for a relationship.  You will also be able to attract the interest of higher value women as a result.

What I would probably do in your shoes is start using OF until LTU6 comes out, and get a head start on a focused effort to deal with and free yourself from your fears.  Then, when LTU6 comes out, use that.  It will take you further in the direction you want to go because OF will help clear the path for LTU6 and in the end you'll get more value and growth from LTU6 and achieve the highest levels of self improvement, and thus the highest levels of value increase to women.  It's a slower and less fun path, but the end result will be the best for being able to attract the highest value women, and achieve a serious relationship with them.

Thank you very much for your great answer – I had a lot of the same thoughts. I might have tried to be a little bit too politically correct in my initial post. What I'm looking for is definitely sex short term. A real relationship is probably 2 - 4 years down the line (depending on a ton of things). I just prefer to hook up with girls that I'm ok with taking to brunch the next day and seeing a few times a month. 
 
Could it be useful to use DMSI for a few months “to get the ball rolling” after corona and then move on to LTU, or will all the time used on DMSI be useless the second I stop using it?  

(06-13-2020, 04:17 PM)SaltyMeatballs Wrote: Hi @Shannon. What are your strategic plans for developing LTU6 and how will it be different from the current version - LTU5 (excluding FRM improvement ofcourse).

(06-14-2020, 09:28 AM)Frosted Wrote: Hey Shannon, I'm just curious if you just combined some of the old writing subliminals you had and upgraded it to the newest tech would that take that long? You could do that with minimal addition and I'd still buy it. Like "Ultimate Writer Lite", and then set it up so you could add more on later to make it a more comprehensive subliminal while still being able to satisfy us writers for now with less effort. Ah, the only thing I think would need added for the Lite version would be something to improve the Writer's prose and writing in general. There's 3g/4g subliminals about better plot and characters etc. But haven't seen any old subs that would help me improve my use of the English language in my work in general.

One guaranteed customer here.

Also this is off topic but I'm really anticipating renaissance man when you decide to create it.

(06-14-2020, 10:38 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-14-2020, 09:28 AM)Frosted Wrote: Hey Shannon, I'm just curious if you just combined some of the old writing subliminals you had and upgraded it to the newest tech would that take that long? You could do that with minimal addition and I'd still buy it. Like "Ultimate Writer Lite", and then set it up so you could add more on later to make it a more comprehensive subliminal while still being able to satisfy us writers for now with less effort. Ah, the only thing I think would need added for the Lite version would be something to improve the Writer's prose and writing in general. There's 3g/4g subliminals about better plot and characters etc. But haven't seen any old subs that would help me improve my use of the English language in my work in general.

One guaranteed customer here.

Also this is off topic but I'm really anticipating renaissance man when you decide to create it.

The only way to make it quickly would be to just dump the existing 3G/4G script in the key and core script, and build them as is with a 5.75G skeleton script around them.  Otherwise I have to upgrade and optimize them, and top speed for that is 2 statements per day given my current level of complexity and the tools I am using to do this work.  

The former would not meet my standards.  The latter would not be quick or easy to do.  I am already dealing with a full queue.  So... gonna have to wait a bit.  I will get to those though.

(06-14-2020, 11:11 AM)Frosted Wrote:

(06-14-2020, 10:38 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-14-2020, 09:28 AM)Frosted Wrote: Hey Shannon, I'm just curious if you just combined some of the old writing subliminals you had and upgraded it to the newest tech would that take that long? You could do that with minimal addition and I'd still buy it. Like "Ultimate Writer Lite", and then set it up so you could add more on later to make it a more comprehensive subliminal while still being able to satisfy us writers for now with less effort. Ah, the only thing I think would need added for the Lite version would be something to improve the Writer's prose and writing in general. There's 3g/4g subliminals about better plot and characters etc. But haven't seen any old subs that would help me improve my use of the English language in my work in general.

One guaranteed customer here.

Also this is off topic but I'm really anticipating renaissance man when you decide to create it.

The only way to make it quickly would be to just dump the existing 3G/4G script in the key and core script, and build them as is with a 5.75G skeleton script around them.  Otherwise I have to upgrade and optimize them, and top speed for that is 2 statements per day given my current level of complexity and the tools I am using to do this work.  

The former would not meet my standards.  The latter would not be quick or easy to do.  I am already dealing with a full queue.  So... gonna have to wait a bit.  I will get to those though.

Alright cool, I'm willing to wait. Hope I'm not annoying you, just want to make sure the writing subliminal gets remembered because I know it might get forgotten under the piles of work and other subliminal projects.

(06-14-2020, 11:15 AM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

What do you think the connection is between low self worth and fear?

(06-14-2020, 11:29 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-14-2020, 11:15 AM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

What do you think the connection is between low self worth and fear?

Well, low self worth is the result of a learned belief set, which is learned by observing and interpreting the actions and speech of others.  Fear is a response to something that results from an assessment of threat in some way or at some level.  These two may have nothing to do with one another, or may be linked depending on the person, personality, their experiences, their interpretations and their reactions.

You can have a low sense of self worth, with no fear involved.  You can have fear with no low sense of self worth involved.  And in some cases, you can have low self worth resulting in fear.  If they are linked, usually the fear results from the low self worth evaluation, not the other way around.

(06-14-2020, 12:59 PM)THolt Wrote:

(06-14-2020, 11:29 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-14-2020, 11:15 AM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

What do you think the connection is between low self worth and fear?

Well, low self worth is the result of a learned belief set, which is learned by observing and interpreting the actions and speech of others.  Fear is a response to something that results from an assessment of threat in some way or at some level.  These two may have nothing to do with one another, or may be linked depending on the person, personality, their experiences, their interpretations and their reactions.

You can have a low sense of self worth, with no fear involved.  You can have fear with no low sense of self worth involved.  And in some cases, you can have low self worth resulting in fear.  If they are linked, usually the fear results from the low self worth evaluation, not the other way around.

@Shannon 

Interesting. I always wondered what the connection was.

Is it possible after OF and the Drug Dependence that you would take a look at the Self Worth/Deservedness program I suggested? 

I know you are swamped but I am just reminding you as I know you are juggling several
Things at once

(06-14-2020, 02:57 PM)Fluffy Wrote: @Shannon

How much is wanting to be in a monogamous relationship based in fear?

My fear is that people choose a monogamous relationship based on unconscious fear, thus when in a LTR I feel like if me or my partner had no fear, we wouldn't choose a monogamous relationship. This leads me to feel that deep down my partner would prefer causal sex, open relationships, and the whole monogamous thing is just really based on a lie.

I don't consiously think this all the time, but when I think about this, I can feel into it. A part of me thinks I could be wrong, so I don't let it complelty take over me, but then I would hate to think what I have with my girlfriend is based on a lie, even if consiously we are not aware of it or even think it.

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts, thanks.