(05-30-2015, 05:35 PM)Benjamin Wrote: I follow The Renegade Diet, which is 16/8. 16 hours fasting 8 hours eating window and i've definately loved the results.

I'm now combining it with carb cycling, low carbs on off days and higher carbs on gym days and an extra meal after the gym with carbs and it's definately working. The girl i've been seeing tells me my arms keep getting bigger, so the people who told me my muscle would waste away doing this were wrong.

(05-30-2015, 06:17 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Maybe she just likes you Ben.

But here's a thought I'm having recently (it's in line with being authentic, of course)

The thing is, I CRAVE junk food these days, but I'm eating healthy to "live longer/better" But what's the point? I'm punishing myself, in essence, just for some future that may never come. So, too, with being myself with people. I'm a deplorable sociopath at the core, and I believe people are picking up on that, so I'd better "own it" soon, lest I be discovered as untrustworthy, you know?

But then I'm thinking "ok, but a sociopath won't last long in the social/sales jungle" and so, I guess, I'm doing self-improvement out of fear. Fear that my basic self is someone that will be rejected, by everyone, and will die alone.

This is so profoundly powerful and is becoming a growing theme for me. What do you guys think?

Have you ever seen the two extremes or is it just me?

Quote:I've gone through many different ways of fasting and I was in a good shape after every fast. Some of them I have followed too much to the extreme so I quit after a little while, that's why adjustment to your own style helps. Body starts breaking down muscle after 24h-48h of fasting, the people who told you otherwise haven't done their research. What I love most about living this way is that your mind stays clear and sharp as opposed to eating every 3 hours on the clock. Have you noticed the difference in that area?

(05-31-2015, 03:40 PM)Benjamin Wrote:

Quote:I've gone through many different ways of fasting and I was in a good shape after every fast. Some of them I have followed too much to the extreme so I quit after a little while, that's why adjustment to your own style helps. Body starts breaking down muscle after 24h-48h of fasting, the people who told you otherwise haven't done their research. What I love most about living this way is that your mind stays clear and sharp as opposed to eating every 3 hours on the clock. Have you noticed the difference in that area?

I never tried the 24/48 hour version. I'm liking 16/8 so plan to stick to it.

Hmm, I can't say I have noticed much with my mind being sharper doing this. Maybe I just am not aware of it as i've been doing it for a fair while now.

Quote:My grandpa does a 1 month fast every year, I can only imagine how tough that is. He only drinks water during that time. But you would be surprised how great of a shape he's in, he looks like he's barely 40 although he's 60 and more energy than an average 30 year old.

By the way how do you calculate the 16/8? Because the last meal takes about 8 hours to digest and that's when the fasting actually starts.

Another thing I have noticed is that coffee gives me a much bigger boost while I'm fasting.

(06-01-2015, 03:26 PM)Benjamin Wrote:

Quote:My grandpa does a 1 month fast every year, I can only imagine how tough that is. He only drinks water during that time. But you would be surprised how great of a shape he's in, he looks like he's barely 40 although he's 60 and more energy than an average 30 year old.

By the way how do you calculate the 16/8? Because the last meal takes about 8 hours to digest and that's when the fasting actually starts.

Another thing I have noticed is that coffee gives me a much bigger boost while I'm fasting.

1 month?! ***** hell. I don't think i'll try that one. But sounds like he's doing something right with those results!

I just do it from when I eat my last meal. Usually i'll eat around 6:30pm so then I won't eat until 10:30am the next day. All i'll have is water. I'm not sure where you got the waiting for the meal to digest thing as none of the material i've read has mentioned that.

I treat coffee as part of eating in a way as I have milk in it, I haven't tried it while still fasting.

(06-01-2015, 06:20 PM)Natious Wrote:

(06-01-2015, 03:26 PM)Benjamin Wrote:

Quote:My grandpa does a 1 month fast every year, I can only imagine how tough that is. He only drinks water during that time. But you would be surprised how great of a shape he's in, he looks like he's barely 40 although he's 60 and more energy than an average 30 year old.

By the way how do you calculate the 16/8? Because the last meal takes about 8 hours to digest and that's when the fasting actually starts.

Another thing I have noticed is that coffee gives me a much bigger boost while I'm fasting.

1 month?! ***** hell. I don't think i'll try that one. But sounds like he's doing something right with those results!

I just do it from when I eat my last meal. Usually i'll eat around 6:30pm so then I won't eat until 10:30am the next day. All i'll have is water. I'm not sure where you got the waiting for the meal to digest thing as none of the material i've read has mentioned that.

I treat coffee as part of eating in a way as I have milk in it, I haven't tried it while still fasting.

He doesn't do much else during the fast, mostly just relaxes, reads and watches tv.

I can't remember where I read it, but if you think about it the body can't go into the fasted state if it's still digesting the last big meal. That takes roughly 8 hours. With that you could calculate the actual time you spend being fasted, although I think the general guideline is that whenever you don't eat you fast so it's up to you which way you look at it. Makes more sense to me that fasting starts after everything is digested.