(09-18-2018, 09:41 AM)Williamx25 Wrote: @Shannon


I started to listen to MLS 5.5G, I'm only a few minutes in of my daily 4 loops and I noticed something.
I hear a constant trickling stream with a constant volume and after 20-30 sec I get a drop in volume or something. It's a constant volume with descents in the volume, is this how the program is supposed to work?

I downloaded the FLAC file and I've uploaded the file to my Iphone 8 plus on VLC player.

Could someone chime in and tell me what's wrong with the file? I don't hear a constant volume, I keep getting drops in volume, minor drops for like 1 sec.

Have you checked the MD5Sums?

(09-18-2018, 06:54 PM)Hatman Wrote: This was probably already asked before, but when a sub includes the entire of scripts of other subs, does it make the combined subliminal more or less effective than the focus fire versions?

So if LTU 5.5G had the the full scripts of USLM and UMOP included, would each of those be just as effective as their standalone versions, and in a way allow us to run multiple subliminals at one time?

Or would simply picking the subliminal that best fits my goals be my best bet?

First, we may not be able to get LM to play nice with UM. Aside from that...

Focus Fire subs are smaller amounts of script that are focused on more heavily to really aim at a single thing. It's not necessarily more or less effective than a combined subliminal, the way I make them. It just focuses more heavily.

A focus fire will have fewer targets and therefore achieve them, on average, more quickly and with less energy. DMSI, for example, has a lot of sub-goals, but only one goal. That main goal, even if it wasn't being heavily resisted as it typically is at this time, would take longer than say USLM because it has a number of sub-goals working to support the main goal, each of which requires a timeslice of processing power, and each of which requires energy, effort, attention and energy.

Now starting from scratch, let's say someone who has never used either sub before (or any sub at all) decides they want to compare DMSI to USLM. DMSI may have quite a task of taking that person through identifying, dealing with, clearing and healing the things that would otherwise prevent it from achieving it's primary goal. While it achieves those sub-goals, the primary goal isn't like to be achieved.

USLM, on the other hand, may have the same exact issue depending on what sort of psychological tangles the person has beneath the surface. Fear of success and/or failure may require clearing and healing also.

In the end, what determines which is faster is how you use it and which one is going to require less preparation for achieving the design goals. Not necessarily how many sub-goals each has.

(09-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Just curious: is there a script in DMSI that prevent for exemple a friends girlfriend to make a move (If in find her attractive that will say)? That would otherwise be a great way to avoid awkward situations...

No. Not even the anti-sniper will currently do that. Although I could set up the AS to do that. But first, do we really want the anti-sniper or not? Those who don't want it are convinced it is responsible for reducing the program effectiveness. The rest are convinced it saves them from all sorts of nasty situations.

(09-19-2018, 05:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Just curious: is there a script in DMSI that prevent for exemple a friends girlfriend to make a move (If in find her attractive that will say)? That would otherwise be a great way to avoid awkward situations...

No. Not even the anti-sniper will currently do that. Although I could set up the AS to do that. But first, do we really want the anti-sniper or not? Those who don't want it are convinced it is responsible for reducing the program effectiveness. The rest are convinced it saves them from all sorts of nasty situations.

I used to be a proponent of the anti-sniper, because I could see it work on ver. 3.1, but now I'm no longer - and it's not due to the fact that it would decrease the program's efficiency (it didn't).

I simply believe it to be unnecessary, given all the other safeties in place.

Also, when a person would have been affected by the AS heavily enough - and it's not turned on - they're only going to get the baseline anyway - and in case of any unwanted attention, I can deal with that on my own well enough (and so does anybody else, for that matter), I think.

(09-19-2018, 05:43 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Just curious: is there a script in DMSI that prevent for exemple a friends girlfriend to make a move (If in find her attractive that will say)? That would otherwise be a great way to avoid awkward situations...

No. Not even the anti-sniper will currently do that. Although I could set up the AS to do that. But first, do we really want the anti-sniper or not? Those who don't want it are convinced it is responsible for reducing the program effectiveness. The rest are convinced it saves them from all sorts of nasty situations.

I used to be a proponent of the anti-sniper, because I could see it work on ver. 3.1, but now I'm no longer - and it's not due to the fact that it would decrease the program's efficiency (it didn't).

I simply believe it to be unnecessary, given all the other safeties in place.

Also, when a person would have been affected by the AS heavily enough - and it's not turned on - they're only going to get the baseline anyway - and in case of any unwanted attention, I can deal with that on my own well enough (and so does anybody else, for that matter), I think.

I agree, would rather have the energy from the anti-sniper go into turning jealous people into admirers or into the long distance sniper

(09-19-2018, 05:43 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Just curious: is there a script in DMSI that prevent for exemple a friends girlfriend to make a move (If in find her attractive that will say)? That would otherwise be a great way to avoid awkward situations...

No. Not even the anti-sniper will currently do that. Although I could set up the AS to do that. But first, do we really want the anti-sniper or not? Those who don't want it are convinced it is responsible for reducing the program effectiveness. The rest are convinced it saves them from all sorts of nasty situations.

I used to be a proponent of the anti-sniper, because I could see it work on ver. 3.1, but now I'm no longer - and it's not due to the fact that it would decrease the program's efficiency (it didn't).

I simply believe it to be unnecessary, given all the other safeties in place.

Also, when a person would have been affected by the AS heavily enough - and it's not turned on - they're only going to get the baseline anyway - and in case of any unwanted attention, I can deal with that on my own well enough (and so does anybody else, for that matter), I think.

Pretty much this. It makes life more exciting and "forces" you to be responsible yourself. Like now im feeling everyone being attracted to me. Also, the gf of a friend of mine is showing increasing IOIs, starstruck trance moments. I just dont do anything with her, because idgaf if something happens or not.

It might be also one of the reasons I feel DMSI 3.2 is stronger.

Hi Shannon, since i was stonewalling 3.2 and did the break like you mentioned and no bloom or tid effects, do you think your progress with beast will help get past my stonewalling your subs?

Is there any way i can consciously help get the subconscious to execute the script or its just a matter of our subconscious wanting to resist it so strongly nothing can be done to change it until you find ways to get past those stonewalling issues?

(09-19-2018, 05:58 AM)Kol Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:43 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Just curious: is there a script in DMSI that prevent for exemple a friends girlfriend to make a move (If in find her attractive that will say)? That would otherwise be a great way to avoid awkward situations...

No. Not even the anti-sniper will currently do that. Although I could set up the AS to do that. But first, do we really want the anti-sniper or not? Those who don't want it are convinced it is responsible for reducing the program effectiveness. The rest are convinced it saves them from all sorts of nasty situations.

I used to be a proponent of the anti-sniper, because I could see it work on ver. 3.1, but now I'm no longer - and it's not due to the fact that it would decrease the program's efficiency (it didn't).

I simply believe it to be unnecessary, given all the other safeties in place.

Also, when a person would have been affected by the AS heavily enough - and it's not turned on - they're only going to get the baseline anyway - and in case of any unwanted attention, I can deal with that on my own well enough (and so does anybody else, for that matter), I think.

Pretty much this. It makes life more exciting and "forces" you to be responsible yourself. Like now im feeling everyone being attracted to me. Also, the gf of a friend of mine is showing increasing IOIs, starstruck trance moments. I just dont do anything with her, because idgaf if something happens or not.

It might be also one of the reasons I feel DMSI 3.2 is stronger.

Getting STDs and rape charges doesn't make life exciting.Dealing with insane women doesn't make life better.Anti sniper is for extreme cases.

Yeah, but do we really need the anti sniper for that? 3.2 doesnt have AS. And if they are for extreme cases, isnt it something that should be repulsive to begin with? I know I have rejected girls without the AS. Also, getting in tune and what male and female energy is, is of benefit.

There is crazy, and there is crazy. Some girls are fun crazy, while others carry toxicity with them from the start, and carry sentiments that weed themselves out ( or should, nature wise ) think the "I dont need no man" feminist kind of women. It aint healthy.

Yes let's keep the AS out of DMSI. I've also rejected girls (including a 14 year old). It's not difficult to do.

I'm all for an AS that only fires against women who are a threat to your physical safety (including girls that would cry rape) but not to the BS "unhappiness causing" as, for me personally, that means ALL women.

It should probably be a focus to get DMSI to work so we actually CAN have all these phantom negative scenarios (ie. like the controversy over the fear of female relatives trying to bang you, lmao classic!) FIRST. Rather than trying to shut down and limit the program, before it even does these things in reality. I too have suspected the AS has been warped in my case to limit the program's effectiveness by labeling women as "pain" etc. It's a possibility for resistance many may have suffered.

With all the problems we've had getting the program to work as it is, cutting down on the ways it can be derailed, will be a good thing.

It'll be a high quality problem if the program can ever work well enough for the crushing majority to do all of that, regardless. I admit I'm not sure that will happen, but we'll see.

(09-19-2018, 04:57 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-17-2018, 10:13 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-17-2018, 07:39 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-16-2018, 10:42 AM)Broski Wrote: Hey Shannon,

I've been running US/LM B for 34 days now and have not yet been seeing the results i'm after. Ilve been experiencing a TON of fear and anxiety while running g this, almost verging on panic attacks on a few occasions and feeling like i'm losing my mind. A lot of different worries, negative thoughts and emotions coming up. I have also recently started trying to meditate more rigorously a little ways into the run so not sure if that might be part of it as well. Do you think I should keep going or try to switch to version A?

So the first thing is to remember that no matter what suggestions I offer you, you can follow the instructions and be eligible for a refund, or you can disregard them and give that up. That is a choice you must be the one to make.

I recommend that you start analyzing your reactions to understand what is causing them, where they come from and what their origins are.

If you keep having negative thoughts come up, what are those thoughts specifically? Those thoughts are going to be like arrows fired from the cause of the resistance and fear: they will by their very nature point you back to what caused them.

What are they telling you? Why would you be having those thoughts and responses? Why are you afraid of success? Is it success you're afraid of, or something that will result from success? What do these things tell you about the underlying fears and causes of your reactions to this program?

WHY are you afraid of succeeding?

It would help me help you to know more specifically what your negative reactions are.

Alright I will try to do my best in answering these for you. The first major negative thought thats been coming up is fear of focusing on negative thoughts and emotions and bringing more of those things into my life. Then when I think those thoughts or feel those emotions is cause more fear and anxiety, which causes more fear and anxiety, ect ect. Quite the vicious cycle . Ever since I took a psychology class in high school and learned about the power of the mind and specifically this part covering how people that thought they were sick even though they weren't ended up making themselves sick, I have feared the mind and using it against myself, as dumb as. As dumb as it may sound to some, it is a VERY real fear to me and I have suffered greatly from it. I had some anxiety over this the following summer, but once I was back at school it didn't really come up for awhile. Fast forward a few years later and seeing something on tv triggered this fear in me again and I went into major anxiety and panic attacks over it for many months. I developed different chronic tensions and pressures in my body that took my focus off the mind and made me think I had some sort of physical condition wrong with me. I went to a plethora of different doctors and they couldn't find anything wrong, so im pretty sure the anxiety is what lead to it. I still see these tensions and pressure to this day many years later. I think this is my main fear I have been experiencing though with different variations of it, and has lead to most of the other negative thoughts, emotions and fear I've had during this time. Some other negative recurring thoughts have been fear of going insane, and fear of losing control. Why I am having them in response to the program is maybe because the success oriented programming triggers them, like the fears are popping up saying "We cant think positively and successfully with all this deep rooted fear surrounding this issue" Maybe i'm afraid of anything changing with my mind because I fear the power of it so. I don't know, I have consciously thought of different things like this before about the issue, but have never seemed to be able to fully get over it. Hope that helps

So basically you have a fear based feedback loop that you have focused on yourself, for infinite replay-ability. Congrats, you're afraid of yourself.

How many loops a day are you using USLM for?

I don't think there is a need to make fun of me/the situation. I am trying to be honest and open with you here and don't really appreciate that. It's not like I intentionally tried to create the situation and it hasn't exactly been pleasant. I have been doing 1 loop a day.

(09-19-2018, 08:37 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 04:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: So basically you have a fear based feedback loop that you have focused on yourself, for infinite replay-ability. Congrats, you're afraid of yourself.

How many loops a day are you using USLM for?

I don't think there is a need to make fun of me/the situation. I am trying to be honest and open with you here and don't really appreciate that. It's not like I intentionally tried to create the situation and it hasn't exactly been pleasant. I have been doing 1 loop a day.

Dude he didn't make fun of you, he just assessed the situation, stated a fact and made it on a humorous note. It's on you that you take it as offensive.

(09-19-2018, 07:53 AM)CatMan Wrote: It should probably be a focus to get DMSI to work so we actually CAN have all these phantom negative scenarios (ie. like the controversy over the fear of female relatives trying to bang you, lmao classic!) FIRST. Rather than trying to shut down and limit the program, before it even does these things in reality. I too have suspected the AS has been warped in my case to limit the program's effectiveness by labeling women as "pain" etc. It's a possibility for resistance many may have suffered.

With all the problems we've had getting the program to work as it is, cutting down on the ways it can be derailed, will be a good thing.

It'll be a high quality problem if the program can ever work well enough for the crushing majority to do all of that, regardless. I admit I'm not sure that will happen, but we'll see.

It's possible the anti sniper is easier to blame compared to fears and other things that actually block execution.