(03-16-2018, 04:41 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi shannon, i have completed 21 days of loops so far using headphones and havent noticed much so far its hard to tell really as even porn and masturbating is still possible i choose not to but i can do that easily before dmsi too but if i wanted there isnt much resistance in stopping me from watching it at the moment like others have noticed.

I have surround sound speakers setup to my computer just wondering would it be better to try hybrid without headphones and sit at the desk close to speakers and see how that works. I realise headphones going directly into our ears are meant to be better but so far but without noticing much if anything maybe trying without headphones might be a better option.

It has a sub woofer connected will that cause a problem with the audio i dont believe any of it has noise cancelling so it shouldnt be an issue.

Surround sound isn't necessarily optimal for a two channel subliminal of my creation. If there is any delay between the channels it can cause the brain to overload as it receives many times too much data at once for it to decode. There should not be such a delay, of course, but still.

Sub woofer should not matter.

If you're using headphones and remaining relatively unaffected, then one of the following is true.

1. Your headphones are not actually playing the audio. This will only be possible if you are playing the ultrasonic track, which you should not be on headphones anyway. Verify audio is getting through.

2. You are using a format or volume that triggers resistance in you. If you are the "do what I want!" type then the better formats will tend to be Masked first, then Ultrasonic, and Hybrid will tend to be least effective while resistance is possible. The reason for this seems to be that the parts of the subconscious that resist for this reason are closer to the conscious awareness, and you must access the deeper parts and bypass them with lower volume subliminal audio.

3. You just have a personality that refuses to cooperate, at least subconsciously. If this is the case, then no amount of lowering the volume will help. As far as I know, the only way to get past this will be for me to find the magic formula to add to the script. Sometimes, these people will be resisting because they want to prove that they are stronger than the sub, prove that they can't "be controlled", or take pride in "being right" or "winning". They often see it as a competition between me/the sub and themselves, which of course is not conducive to cooperation.

In the end, you will always experience the results that you most want to achieve at the level of awareness choosing whether or not to cooperate.

In any case, try using different formats and different volumes for a week at a time and see if anything changes.

(03-16-2018, 06:07 AM)Ymiraku Wrote: I honestly haven't noticed much either but i've only been using the program for a week. Is it really necessary to completely abstain from masturbation? I understand not watching porn but is there something in the program which commands the sub-conscious to avoid masturbation?

If this is true then does masturbation prevent the entirety of the script from successfully reprogramming the subconscious?

Going for such long periods without masturbation may lead to embarrassing premature ejaculation during sex when it comes. I understand if you are getting a lot of sex then masturbation is not necessary but if the sex isn't there wouldn't it just lead to more frustration and neediness?

Masturbation is being freely used by a lot of guys to escape the goals by providing a convenient distraction, time waster and release without necessitating a woman. This derails the program goals for those parts of you trying to cooperate.

Premature ejaculation can be countered by using common sense during sex. If you feel yourself getting close, do something else for a while. Have her stop moving and make out. Pull out and lick or finger her. Think about how to change the old toilet out for the new one. Go slower. Try a different type of sex; oral instead of vaginal, for example.

Plus, DMSI has a module designed to make you a better lover each time you have sex.

(03-16-2018, 07:05 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:

(03-15-2018, 11:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: I would say it's pretty unlikely that you figured it out. But spoiling it for other people isn't the risk, it would be destroying a very expensive experiment. So regardless, I appreciate you not even conjecturing as to what it does.

Will you tell what it was when the experiment is finished?

Possibly, but I have to determine how that will affect the experiment first.

Thanks Shannon for the reply, i bought the new speakers thinking needing more power than the phone might provide but i think most use a mobile with headphones?

I might try putting hybrid and masked on my phone and using headphones and giving it a go that way and see if it will be any better.

You mentioned in a previous reply to my questions that hybrid was best when got hearing issues but if i have a "dont tell me what to do attitude" then masked would be more effective.

Should i try masked first for the next 6 days through the mobile and see if it will make a difference and then try hybrid for a week on the next turn and masked for a week and see if either works better.

When i first listened i did feel tired in the first week and that has passed like many report so i assume something is working but just takes longer for results for some compared to others.

How high or low should the volume be with the masked track with headphones just loud enough to be heard or loud enough that all sounds are very clear?

Thanks.

(03-17-2018, 05:00 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(03-16-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote:

(03-16-2018, 10:05 AM)thor2014 Wrote: When it comes to men talking about how many women they have shagged take it with a pinch of salt . All men love to brag about their exploits to impress other men. I know one guy who claimed to have three somes every weekend. It turned out he had setup his own escort agency

(03-15-2018, 05:34 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote:

(03-14-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote: There's nothing wrong with getting laid. In fact chasing skirt in your 20's is optimal.

I have a friend whose slept with 1000+ women and he says it's only through this process do you refine what you want in a woman. He likened sexual experience to primary school - high school - college education. It's pretty limiting for a man to be in his 30's and have only a primary school level of understanding with women due to his own inexperience.

It's also pretty limiting for a guy to be making the same mistakes over and over again without learning rapidly. The faster a man goes through this process, the better able they are to achieve fulfillment and satisfaction with women.

can you please get your friend to contact shannon and maybe shannon could get some pointers as to how these guys are thinking?
I had a similar friend and before I could get some "education" as you call it, he moved away.

Lol, if you haven't noticed by now, I'm one of the most skeptical members here.

I'm always seeking evidence, always calling people out on their fallacious assumptions. I wouldn't be concluding that the guy is the real deal if I didn't have ocular proof. Women melt around him because he knows what he's doing.

It's also an over generalisation on your part to say "all men love to brag about their exploits". Only men who seek validation from others brag about their accomplishments. Be careful you're not projecting your own view and universalising it to everyone else.

Its true matey. Can you honestly say that you have never ever bragged about anything in your entier life ?

I have but only when I was doing exactly as I mentioned - seeking validation.

(03-16-2018, 07:54 AM)lano1106 Wrote:

(03-14-2018, 08:16 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(03-13-2018, 07:42 PM)lano1106 Wrote:

(03-13-2018, 05:06 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: although no sex yet. But I feel like I might be close and the dam could burst at any moment.

Me neither no sex yet. You know, it is either a limiting belief or a very lucid view of reality but I have a hard time imagining a woman taking the lead to have sex (at least not the type of women that I find attractive...)

In my reality model, a woman wanting to have sex with me will be extremely cooperative with my suggestion of isolation her but as a man, I still have to lead to make it happen.

To have everyday adventures that would put to shame most of the best cheesy porn scenarios is certainly accessible to all DMSI users. It is just a matter to have the strong belief that it is possible and behave accordingly and make moves on girls.

Possibly this is something you acquire with positive experience feedback...at first slowly and eventually, you become a legendary stud....

I still have restraints in that department possibly due to strong social programming. I think that minimal actions is required by the user to get results IOW, execute the script (know idea consciously what it is the script exactly...)

I think the two biggest things holding you guys back are the prison bars you have created for yourselves from fear of succeeding at the goals (not knowing yet how to get from Point A to Point C, with Point B being scary because it is undefined), or being afraid of women, sex, the potential consequences of having sex, or maybe even your own sexuality;

...and the prison bars you have created for yourselves concerning what it means to "be a man". A lot of you have so built your core identities on "Me man, me must hunt, me must be initiator, me must be aggressor, me must do all work, me man!" that you cannot conceive in your own heads of being a man and being so high value that none of that is actually necessary. The really high value males, the real top level guys, the guys who are truly the cream of the crop, they do not chase because they never have to! You instead are stuck in the logical fallacy of insisting on the past: 1. It has never happened to me before that way, so obviously, it never will. 2. I have never seen a woman come on to a man in real life, so obviously that is impossible. 3. I have never been that high value before to a woman, so obviously, I never will.

These are the final barriers we face for almost all of you. Think about them. Realize how much YOU are stopping yourself by accepting these as true. I already have programming in the script that tries to deal with all of this, but you guys are fighting it so hard in a lot of cases that you refuse to allow it to execute, and refuse to open yourself to the new reality in which these beliefs are no longer limiting you.

Shannon, I appreciate your feedback and I acknowledged it. I try very hard to accept it as-is and not argue it. OTOH, I feel very compelled to clarify few points about my mind and situation.

1. I never said that DMSI was not working. There is strong undeniable positive changes in behavior with women that I interact with and I am extremely happy about it. Just no wild sex adventures yet.

Also, I should point out that I did not have sex WITH new partners since DMSI 3.2. I did have sex but not much and not at all since about 2 weeks.

I start to be very horny and this is a very strong source of motivation to make things happen....

I usually don't feel that much horny. This is usually manageable so I kinda can sweep this life aspect under the carpet and focus on other things

Finally, I didn't get DMSI to have a lot of sex with a lot of different women. I see myself as charismatic and likeable and I figured that adding sexual magnetism to me would increase my influence.

I'm more looking into the influence side benefits of being irresistible sexually than actually have a lot of sex with a lot of women.

In fact, last summer, I was wondering if I would be better to use BASE as it is more in line with what I want to accomplish and on your recommendation, I did stay on DMSI.

I must say that during my last business trip, I met few very influent women in my industry and I believe that DMSI did help me in advancing my business goals so I thank you very much to create such splendid programs!

2. You might be right about my struggle about defining what a man is. I have been raised by a single feminist mother. I had no strong masculine father figure to model during my childhood.

Mainstream media is of no help to defining good masculine models. Last week, I saw an american magazine front page saying: beta males are wining.

This is such a non-sense. By definition if you are beta, you aren't winning....

It seems MSM hates men. When you talk about toxic masculinity, there is something wrong in that message. Being a strong man can bring a lot to a society IMHO.

but beside my situation, I would not describe it as a problem. It is rather a journey. The author that I resonate a lot with about what is a man and what is the feminine essence is David Deida.

I'm just going to simplify David Deida idea but I pretty much buy into it:
A strong man has a vision. Takes action to realize its vision. He is dominant and is a natural leader.
A feminine woman is slightly submissive. Has a very caring energy. She is attracted by a dominant man who is leading her.

That being said. This is very in line with my belief. I am attracted to that feminine archetype and I'll never be with a liberal feminist woman that thinks that it is her right and duty to act like a man. For me this is a HUGE turn off.

This is my tastes in women and that belongs to me. We cannot argue on that. That being said, I have to be congruent with my expectations. The type of women that I'm attracted to, even if attracted to me, will not take the lead to make sex happen. The best that I can expect is that she will cooperate and make my task very easy so that I can lead her to sex.

The type of woman you are referring to can and will initiate. She will usually not do so in public unless drunk or otherwise over the top aroused and enthralled at the same time. Like all women, like all humans, she has an animal brain and sexual instincts, and if you hit that button hard enough, she will act on them. You have a self limiting belief here, associating the modern feminist with what DMSI is going after and seeing it as being in conflict with what you want.

Believe me, it is very possible to find a woman who is feminine who will initiate and have sex with a man she finds sufficiently attractive and valuable. No matter how submissive a woman is, she still has ways of doing this. I speak from personal experience. DMSI can and will get you the kind of woman you are attracted to, as soon as your misunderstandings get out of the way. Your subconscious knows what the script is, and is fully aware that what I say is true. Which means in this case, it is likely your conscious mind resisting...

Quote:And I can relate to what you describe as a high-value male. Before I started DMSI, I got this wild night in a club where I went there with a female friend and her female friend. So I came in the place with 2 girls. I noticed the most beautiful girl in the place. I went to see her to say hello. She had an immediate crush on me as I kept bumping into her all along the night.

She did ask if we had plans after the place close. She did put her phone # into my phone without me asking for it. She did qualify big time to me by telling me what she was doing at her job (she tried to impress me). As she was talking to me, in the back of my mind, I was telling to myself: She is so much into me. I have this girl.

So when the club did close, we ended up at my friend place and I ended in bed with these 3 girls.

So I know what it is when a girl is around a high-value male. That type of adventure simply did not happen much since DMSI 3.1... I just shared this story to establish that I know what it looks like when a girl is chasing a guy...

How regularly and frequently did you have that type of adventure before 3.1? Because if it slowed down in response to 3.1 or later, you were preventing it from happening for some reason.

Quote:3. idk, if you will agree but I don't believe that I high-value man will dedicate time to chase women. This is opposite of being high-value. I believe that a high-value man is busy realizing his vision and women see the potential of the man so she is attracted to that.

As long as your beliefs conflict with the goals of DMSI, you will resist it. As long as you believe that you have to chase to get tail, you will be stuck believing you are displaying lower value while you are in fact classing yourself, at best, as being "Level 2" instead of Level 1. Just because a lot of guys can't naturally get attention without action is not to say that the top 1% of the top 1% can't. What you're trying to do is be that level 2 or whatever guy, who is successful within his level. What DMSI is trying to do is turn you into that Level 1 guy you refuse to believe exists.

Brad Pitt walks into a bar. How many women does he have to game to go out to his car and get his dick wet?

Nicholas Cage. Elvis Presley. Michael Jordan. John F. Kennedy. Justin Beiber. George Clooney. Will Smith. Johnny Depp. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Tom Cruise. Robert Downey Jr. Ashton Kutcher. Channing Tatum. Frank Sinatra. Tiger Woods. Leonardo DiCaprio. Eminem. John Wayne. All of these guys, and many more, could answer with...

Zero.

Quote:My problem is that I'm so busy with my vision (my business) that my social life is taking a hit. I have small interactions with women during random errands. Very positive interactions but I need to do something (like exchanging contact infos) or else nothing happens. I'm all in for letting women chasing me but I need to at least give them the opportunity to do so.

Right now, this is not an habit to leave my contact infos to women reacting very positively to me when I meet them. This is something that I should be doing on autopilot without having to think about it...

You can say that I have blocks, limiting beliefs but right now this is my best explanation for not having maybe not as much sex as I could have...

The highest value men do not have to leave contact info. They are flooded with it from women.

Women want to be with them and fuck them and please them so much that they will do whatever it takes to succeed. That's why these guys have to wear disguises in public, and avoid certain places in public, and and and.

You are not thinking like a DMSI man yet.

(03-16-2018, 11:01 AM)ichigo Wrote: Hey Shannon, you said back in October 2017 in your journal:

Shannon Wrote:One of the areas I have been researching is what I can do to improve the OED sub. That is a program that I will also be working on at some time in the not too distant future. Speaking of that, I believe I have corrected the script that was triggering that for some of you in DMSI 3.1.

Is releasing an OED sub in 5.5G still something that's in your schedule? I have OED 5G but I don't know whether to just wait for 5.5G as it's likely going to be so much more powerful.

I am currently finished building the cough sub to help myself and am working on the custom now. I also have to build a couple of focusfire subs to keep releases up this month. I don't know when OED will get attention, because it is a complex and challenging topic, and I may wait for 6G.

(03-16-2018, 02:55 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: Hey Shannon

1) I didnt feel sleepy/tired today from listening (headphones) - is this a good sign?

I don't know.

Quote:2) Can stress (in my case uni stress) affect the sub at all, or does it not matter either way?

thanks in advance my friend

Can stress affect your choice to execute the script?

(03-16-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote:

(03-16-2018, 10:05 AM)thor2014 Wrote: When it comes to men talking about how many women they have shagged take it with a pinch of salt . All men love to brag about their exploits to impress other men. I know one guy who claimed to have three somes every weekend. It turned out he had setup his own escort agency

(03-15-2018, 05:34 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote:

(03-14-2018, 11:16 PM)Determined Wrote: There's nothing wrong with getting laid. In fact chasing skirt in your 20's is optimal.

I have a friend whose slept with 1000+ women and he says it's only through this process do you refine what you want in a woman. He likened sexual experience to primary school - high school - college education. It's pretty limiting for a man to be in his 30's and have only a primary school level of understanding with women due to his own inexperience.

It's also pretty limiting for a guy to be making the same mistakes over and over again without learning rapidly. The faster a man goes through this process, the better able they are to achieve fulfillment and satisfaction with women.

can you please get your friend to contact shannon and maybe shannon could get some pointers as to how these guys are thinking?
I had a similar friend and before I could get some "education" as you call it, he moved away.

Lol, if you haven't noticed by now, I'm one of the most skeptical members here.

I'm always seeking evidence, always calling people out on their fallacious assumptions. I wouldn't be concluding that the guy is the real deal if I didn't have ocular proof. Women melt around him because he knows what he's doing.

It's also an over generalisation on your part to say "all men love to brag about their exploits". Only men who seek validation from others brag about their accomplishments. Be careful you're not projecting your own view and universalising it to everyone else.

Determined,
you summed it up pretty well and I agree 100%. I have personally seen such incidents with my friend, like one where a girl at a gas station took his hand and did not let him go after a brief 5 -10 second conversation when we merely stopped to get gas.
there are others like this where the girls overtly hit on him that I have witnessed during the brief period before he moved away. at least, now I know such men exist and such an energy is possible.

although we have wonderful members in this forum, I am not sure that it would be the best place to listen to theories about women.

(03-17-2018, 06:22 AM)Shannon Wrote: I am currently finished building the cough sub to help myself and am working on the custom now. I also have to build a couple of focusfire subs to keep releases up this month. I don't know when OED will get attention, because it is a complex and challenging topic, and I may wait for 6G.

Is Ultra Motivation on the list by any chance (if that even would work as focusfire sub)?

Hi, Shannon! I just bought your Self Esteem 5.5G and its really cool sub, indeed. I have a question: what modules does it have (my left hemisphere wants to know). Does it contains H&C, Optimus Engine version... etc. Thanks!

We really need to clone Shannon.

(03-17-2018, 07:49 AM)hsindermann Wrote:

(03-17-2018, 06:22 AM)Shannon Wrote: I am currently finished building the cough sub to help myself and am working on the custom now. I also have to build a couple of focusfire subs to keep releases up this month. I don't know when OED will get attention, because it is a complex and challenging topic, and I may wait for 6G.

Is Ultra Motivation on the list by any chance (if that even would work as focusfire sub)?

I ran 9 options through the models yesterday, and only two came through as being worth building right now. Ultra Motivation took the second spot. So depending on how long prep for the custom takes, it may also get built.

(03-17-2018, 08:11 AM)Dmitry Wrote: Hi, Shannon! I just bought your Self Esteem 5.5G and its really cool sub, indeed. I have a question: what modules does it have (my left hemisphere wants to know). Does it contains H&C, Optimus Engine version... etc. Thanks!

It has the modules that make it do what it's supposed to do. I really don't have time to go through the script and extract that information for you, unfortunately. But IIRC it's OE 4.4, and it has H&C as necessary.