Subliminal Talk

(09-07-2018, 09:13 AM)Infinite Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if that relationship was the reason why you had that dream that you were pleasing women sexually, but that you felt like a slave because of it. If I remember correctly. Maybe some of that bad experience has been healed?

Definitely the reason. I don't even know what "healing" means anymore in regards to subc, but it is my belief that it was showing me I should have sex for MY pleasure and think of nothing else. Be selfish 100%

Also had a dream last night that my grandpa was dying and died in the dream. Posting this here in case it turns out to be true within the week.

EDIT: I'm remembering more dreams. Had a ton of them last night. Most of it is a blur but there is another one I remember:

My cousin I used to work with when I was in construction asked me to be present while he confronted his father to say he was retiring to do some other job. I came and the meeting took place. And when I went to shake his hand to say "good luck" he refused the handshake. Later, after talking a bit and hitting an emotional moment, I went to hug him and, again, he refused, putting his hands up to barricade. I remember thinking at the time he was just trying to be macho and it wasn't reflective of his true emotional state.

(09-07-2018, 09:25 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2018, 09:13 AM)Infinite Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if that relationship was the reason why you had that dream that you were pleasing women sexually, but that you felt like a slave because of it. If I remember correctly. Maybe some of that bad experience has been healed?

Definitely the reason. I don't even know what "healing" means anymore in regards to subc, but it is my belief that it was showing me I should have sex for MY pleasure and think of nothing else. Be selfish 100%

I think too many men think they have to master specific bedroom techniques which is all bullshit. If you come across as a high value male you don't need to be concerned with your sexual techniques. Trying to please her by learning to give her orgasms is so f**king beta. I only care about getting my cock into her pussy and enjoying myself.

(09-07-2018, 11:10 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2018, 09:25 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2018, 09:13 AM)Infinite Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if that relationship was the reason why you had that dream that you were pleasing women sexually, but that you felt like a slave because of it. If I remember correctly. Maybe some of that bad experience has been healed?

Definitely the reason. I don't even know what "healing" means anymore in regards to subc, but it is my belief that it was showing me I should have sex for MY pleasure and think of nothing else. Be selfish 100%

I think too many men think they have to master specific bedroom techniques which is all *****. If you come across as a high value male you don't need to be concerned with your sexual techniques. Trying to please her by learning to give her orgasms is so f**king beta. I only care about getting my cock into her pussy and enjoying myself.

Yes! Exactly. Me too.

So bought myself the SNES Classic yesterday. Spent the afternoon/evening playing it with my brother. First we beat Donkey Kong in 3 hours (it used to take us 10 or more hours, it's amazing how easy it was for the most part. Some levels still hard tho) then we played Mario Kart (Flower Cup Ghost level proved to be impassible at our current skill). Then we played Kirby. OMG! What an amazing game! I'm totally hooked now and must have more Kirby games. I'll prolly get the switch eventually.

Listening to "No More Mr. Nice Guy" on audible. A couple problems with it so far:

First, it often gets me confused and conflicted and in a bad state. I start second-guessing myself and getting very insecure and stuff. I've turned around and gone home when I wanted to be working more than once (including today). This isn't always the case, as I had a few days last week where I was listening to it before work and I had a really good day so I can't blame the book, but nonetheless I think I should only listen to it on days I'm taking off because I don't need an easy scapegoat to avoid work. I should be working if I want to hit my goals.

Second problem is that it's audio only and this makes going back to certain points and going over them again quite difficult. I plan to get a hard-copy.

Third problem is it brings up a ton of issues nice guys have but is not as abundant on solutions as it is on presenting the problems. I'm in chapter 10 of 12 and he's still listing problems niceguys have with little to no solutions presented. This makes it difficult to correct the behavior.

ION, been off porn and masturbation for a week and went back on it yesterday and today. That may have been a mistake. It seems to be affecting my state more than it has before. I hope it's not a case of DMSI imposing that on us because I've tried sales and PUA both on and off porn and masturbation before as a test, and I saw less results when I was off the porn than when I was on. So this is concerning. Especially since there are plenty of guys who watch porn and f*ck women.

Once again I'm feeling like I have to be some kind of perfect ideal to get DMSI to "work" which I find hilariously ironic since the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" book is designed to help men become who they really are without all the faking and trying to please others and be perfect, yet the more I go through my journey towards becoming "alpha" and a "ladies man", the more I go against things I naturally want to do, like watch porn for example.

It's at times like these I assume I'll never consciously "get it" and instead decide to trust the wisdom of others and do what "they" say I should. How that's different from being a people pleaser, however, I'll never know. It's another one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations.

Still, I assume I'll get clarity if I keep moving towards my goals and watch closely the RESULTS I'm getting more than what I'm "supposed" to be doing.
There's a saying by, I think it's Grant Cardone, that goes like this "do what works, not what looks good" I think this is the key to pretty much everything. Results always, 100%, without exception, to the end of time, speak for themselves, so that's what I have to go by.

On the DMSI front, as you know I'm doing ver. B atm. So far I've noticed more drive and more determination internally but not as much effectiveness in the REAL world (things like skipping work and, if we're to believe abstaining from porn is effective, then porn as well). It may be several thing, I may simply be seeing things in a negative light, I may be resisting, etc.

Anyhow, not much more to say. I think I'll go back to ver. A after this simply because I'm not seeing much results-wise. Although I've seen a few ioi's, they are no where near as blatant as they were in earlier DMSI versions. And aside from the celebrity effect I enjoyed last week (possibly because I abstained from porn and masturbation all week), I haven't seen much in this version compared to side A.

So today in sales I had a slow start. It was raining a bit and I was about to go home without doing anything (which I usually do whenever it rains or even if it just looks like it's gonna rain) but I told myself no, that I had to commit to work as soon as the weather cleared up. So instead of making $0 I made $150. I'm just proud of myself for not going home. I need to cut that shit out and hold myself to a higher standard.

The universe called my "bluff".

Today in sales I go out there and there are the weirdest placed thunderstorms. It looks like it's gonna hit my area, but it's not there at that moment. So I decide to turn around and go to another area of the city, but as I'm driving there it looks like there is a storm there too.

After much inner turmoil and being torn between wanting to go home and wanting to hold my standard, I decided to go back to my original spot and work. If I got rained out, so be it.

I was then able to shut my mind off and focus 110% on my work.

In 2.5 hours I made $300.

I was on fire. Last guy I got for the night opened the door and immediately stretched out his hand and introduced himself. What a cool dude.

I had a lot of fun.

On the DMSI side of things, there were some notables:

- HOT woman at the door was super obstinant. It made no sense for her to decline my offer but she did and I left. I honestly think that the super hot women act this way on purpose. There was no reason for it that I could see. Then again, she could be like others in the neighborhood (males too) who were just obstinate for no good reason. Almost like they were saying "no" to make some kind of point, or prove something to themselves.

It's always funny when you're standing at the door with a $300 day and the guy is pulling that shit. It seriously doesn't harm me at all but it harms him because now I don't want to deal with him and probably won't ever again.

Anyhow, onto other notables:

- At one point, I heard sex. It was LOUD, like, the whole neighborhood could hear this woman screaming.
- Black woman in line at a gas station gave me a head-nod when I entered. She then looked at me again (maybe looked at my crotch, can't be sure) when I was leaving.

Can't remember any other specifics.

I do remember I forgot to mention the other day a cute nubile gave me a leg/foot display (she shook her leg and arched it for me at the door)

Weather finally turned bad enough to justify quitting early. Still made $100 in half an hour. But it was just too cold and I was getting into a bad state.

Gonna see if my boss has any hoodies with our logo on it. I always found that walking up to the door in an outfit that didn't match the company (like a trench coat) caused unnecessary suspicion.

If I can stay warm at the door I'm sure I can keep getting $300 days for the next month or so before the snow hits. Although, we are supposed to be getting some snow tomorrow...

So tonight is the last night of my 2 weeks of ver. B.

Some Notables:

- Saw some hair flips today. Including one by a nubile wearing a short school-girl skirt and matching outfit. Very cute. It was very cold out today too yet she was exposing her legs which I appreciated. She didn't approach me however. Overall, seen more IOI's on this version but they were minor (no butt displays for example) while seeing less sex (haven't had sex on version B yet)

- Went on an online blitz today and got into a convo with one girl who seemed interested but, as usual, things fizzled out. I can't help but wonder, if I was Drake or some other major celeb, and I was talking to a girl online and was trying to go straight to sex if she would bail. Me thinks she would NOT. Thus, we have improvements to make in the program. Overall no action online with Ver B.

- Had some crazy dreams while on this version. Not crazy I guess but just lengthy and complex.

That's about all I can think of.

I'm going to take the 1 day off then go back to ver. A. I'm not taking a break for 3.3 mostly because I can't afford to stop and risk losing the aura which does seem to help a bit in all areas of my life which is good, we just need more sex with hot girls.

If I think of more I'll report.

I guess I had that 18 year old get in contact with me last week so that's something. Not my FWB tho which I was kind of hoping would happen. I guess it's just the familiar.


Another interesting thing that seemed to happen was my perception changed. I started thinking fast lays online were NOT possible even tho I had one already on ver. A. I think I resisted more on this version yet, again, saw more ioi's but then again less sex so who knows.

- Went on an online blitz today and got into a convo with one girl who seemed interested but, as usual, things fizzled out. I can't help but wonder, if I was Drake or some other major celeb, and I was talking to a girl online and was trying to go straight to sex if she would bail. Me thinks she would NOT. Thus, we have improvements to make in the program. Overall no action online with Ver B.

I like your thoughts on the celebrity factor of dmsi.
There is a sense of familiarity with celebrities that disarms peoplle. I've never gone to a concert thinking that the celebrity would hurt me if I were to go have sex with them. I think that many people also have sex with celebrities because the high status makes them feel as if they have a small part, a taste of that celebritie's success. Then there is also the attraction factor that has developed over what could be a long period of time.

I knew a regular guy who had that strong celebrity appeal. I was strongly attracted to him sexually, but it never went anywhere with him because I never felt comfort with him. Then one night, I spent over an hour in close proximity to him, sex almost happened. It would have happened if the circusmances would have worked out.

Familiarity seems to be the ultimate aphrodisiac. Women seem to be most attracted to guys that they are most familiar with.

In my experience, familiarity beats sexiness. When I ran DAOS 4G for several months, the only women that showed obvious interest were those that already knew me and shared familiarity with me.

I would say the familiarity aspect of celebrity is the main thing that attracts women to them.

Familiarity is a very important element to seduction but not the only one. Familiarity provides comfort which is essential for a woman to act on the attraction that she feels for you. So assuming that DMSI or DAOS programs take care of the attraction aspect for you. I guess that you can consciously focus on the familiarity part.

Concerning online dating, unless you have stellar photos, it is going to be very hard. The pictures are pretty much the only assets to stand out from the other guys. Also, numbers are in the favor of the women. Hence they have a very short attention span. The best experiment to fully understand the number advantage was to try out seekingarrangement. The odds are in the favor of men on that site... Of course, you may not seek an arrangement but I definitely encourage to try it just for the learning value of it.

And when it works and you have a date. There is no guarantee that the lady will be as attractive than what you imagined with her pictures. Sometimes, she will be more some other times less.

Interacting women in real life, allows you to immediately figure out if you like her or not and considering that women put a lot more importance on behavior than appearance like men do, simply by making her advances in person will make you stand out from all the other men who hide behind a screen to meet women...

Hmm. A few thoughts on the above:

1. Too much familiarity isn't a good thing as we all know women like a bit of mystery
2. I've been complimented on my pics by all the girls I been with
3. If we have to consciously take the reigns and "do something", DMSI isn't doing it's job. The idea of the program is for the girl to seduce US.
4. I HAVE been seduced by women from online, so I know it's possible
5. Until DMSI is "working" I will, of course, be taking the reigns.

ION, last night was the last of 3.2 B. I doubt I'll use it again since 3.3 will be coming out.

Had another complex, vivid dream with lots of stuff happening. In it I had ordered a burger from a burger place. I ordered it with cheese, but they didn't put cheese on it.

So I went up to the counter to tell them but the line was so long because the hot girl and nerdy guy were flirting and being silly behind the counter.

In the dream I finished eating my burger as the line up slowly moved. Finally, I was there and calmly told them that I had ordered a burger but there was no cheese. The girl was all giggly and silly seemingly making it awkward on purpose but I just stayed silent till she gave me some compensation in the form of another food item. I ate that and left the establishment.

That's a typical DMSI ver. B dream tbh.

Anyhow, that about wraps things up. I hope 3.3 comes out soon as I don't want to have an eleven page "waiting for 3.3" journal.