Subliminal Talk

(03-07-2018, 09:06 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]"through fear of death"

Dreams of death are hailed as good omens. It signifies that apart of you is dying to let a new part grow. If you were to take this dream to a Shaman of old they'd be really excited for you.

That's like saying all candies that are red taste like raspberry. It requires a lot more consideration to understand the meaning of the "death" symbolism than just "death was involved, it mean X".

In this case, that interpretation is unlikely since the part that was "killed" was most likely DMSI or some part attempting to execute what DMSI is attempting to achieve.

(03-08-2018, 03:35 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-07-2018, 09:06 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]"through fear of death"

Dreams of death are hailed as good omens. It signifies that apart of you is dying to let a new part grow. If you were to take this dream to a Shaman of old they'd be really excited for you.

That's like saying all candies that are red taste like raspberry. It requires a lot more consideration to understand the meaning of the "death" symbolism than just "death was involved, it mean X".

In this case, that interpretation is unlikely since the part that was "killed" was most likely DMSI or some part attempting to execute what DMSI is attempting to achieve.

No. This refers to the person having the dream of dying.

If a person has a dream of themselves dying (or in Raykon's case the threat of dying which he avoided) then it is as I mentioned.

I'm saying that if Raykon hadn't been scared and had allowed himself to die, then he'd have made the break through.

Edit: I should add Shannon that I've done a specialised training in interacting with the subconscious through an awake lucid dream to enact personal transformation. This makes me somewhat qualified to speak on the topic.

In essence, there are 7 rules for "flight club" one of them being gift giving (interacting) with gifts being symbolic gestures. Having that part of his subconscious give him a gift is important. Which is why I subvertly recommend people here give gifts to their subconscious mind when they interact with them in the dream landscape.

(03-07-2018, 11:01 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]I also want to add this in here for you Raykon

Sometimes what seems like to right answer is actually what perpetuates the paradigm. For instance, I've noticed that your response to either a rejection or a bad turn of events with a woman is to "hit the gym and get bigger" i.e more aggression.

Whilst being caveman is incredibly attractive to a woman, it's only attractive to one part of her brain - the reptilian brain. You still have to appeal to the mammalian brain (complex emotions including comfort) and the human brain (prefrontal cortex related to executive function).

In a similar vein, the PUA paradigm and the "nice guy" paradigm also loop back in on themselves and perpetuate the problem. PUA's resolve to learn more game and to game more women and nice guys resolve to be even nicer when they don't get what they want.

In relation to your dream, your action of avoiding death is exactly what is perpetuating your current situation. Everything else that followed was a result of that choice. Sometimes we're terrified of changing who we are because we're so accustomed to the security of who we've been.

I'd presume DMSI is calling upon you to transform yourself hence the subconscious communication through dreams. I'd take that as a solid sign of progress.

I agree with you about how i'm aggressive, The gym helps me get mind off stuff when I'm depressed, but also even though I appear very masculine to women, due to my body language, high test low estrogen and because I prefer to be masculine now.

I still have that femininity within me, it comes out when I have stronger feelings for woman, it's impossible for me to hide it completely. So I still have the ability to create strong comfort and connection in that way.

I definitely imagine I spike up the reptillian part of the brain the most right off the bat because of my strong animal magnetism, looks, and extremely high test. But I don't lose that emotional / feminine side of me completely ever.

How would you reccomend I be more balanced? and is balanced even neccessary? I'm into extremely feminine woman, so i wanted to be extremely masculine.

You really don't want to lose that feminine side of you. You do want to balance it properly. Make it the compliment to her femininity, by making your masculinity balance her femininity.

(03-08-2018, 07:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You really don't want to lose that feminine side of you. You do want to balance it properly. Make it the compliment to her femininity, by making your masculinity balance her femininity.

I appreciate the great advice from everyone. I don't have allot of people who know much about stuff like this and this information is very beneficial to my development.

(03-08-2018, 06:52 AM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-07-2018, 11:01 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]I also want to add this in here for you Raykon

Sometimes what seems like to right answer is actually what perpetuates the paradigm. For instance, I've noticed that your response to either a rejection or a bad turn of events with a woman is to "hit the gym and get bigger" i.e more aggression.

Whilst being caveman is incredibly attractive to a woman, it's only attractive to one part of her brain - the reptilian brain. You still have to appeal to the mammalian brain (complex emotions including comfort) and the human brain (prefrontal cortex related to executive function).

In a similar vein, the PUA paradigm and the "nice guy" paradigm also loop back in on themselves and perpetuate the problem. PUA's resolve to learn more game and to game more women and nice guys resolve to be even nicer when they don't get what they want.

In relation to your dream, your action of avoiding death is exactly what is perpetuating your current situation. Everything else that followed was a result of that choice. Sometimes we're terrified of changing who we are because we're so accustomed to the security of who we've been.

I'd presume DMSI is calling upon you to transform yourself hence the subconscious communication through dreams. I'd take that as a solid sign of progress.

I agree with you about how i'm aggressive, The gym helps me get mind off stuff when I'm depressed, but also even though I appear very masculine to women, due to my body language, high test low estrogen and because I prefer to be masculine now.

I still have that femininity within me, it comes out when I have stronger feelings for woman, it's impossible for me to hide it completely. So I still have the ability to create strong comfort and connection in that way.

I definitely imagine I spike up the reptillian part of the brain the most right off the bat because of my strong animal magnetism, looks, and extremely high test. But I don't lose that emotional / feminine side of me completely ever.

How would you reccomend I be more balanced? and is balanced even neccessary? I'm into extremely feminine woman, so i wanted to be extremely masculine.

Lol, I'm not really talking about masculine and feminine (though they're very important). I think you may have misunderstood the mammalian brain for "feminine" and "repitilian" for masculine.

The reptilian brain is purely base and primal emotions. I've noticed you do a good job of arousing that right of the bat. You're also very aware of this which is why it seems to be a prominent part of your strategy.

Where I've seen you go wrong is that you use this when you shouldn't be. Like using a hammer when a screwdriver is needed.

In one instance from reading your journal, you were being caveman over text when what she really wanted was to build some comfort (mammalian) hence why she ended up flaking on you later. You resolved to hit the gym and get bigger which seemed like a paradigm loop (attract women through caveman, goes bad, do more of what attracted her).

You being sensitive isn't the same as building comfort. Building comfort and trust (mammalian brain) is about how she feels about you. The double edge of aggression is she might feel unsafe or be hesitant to commit.

Jada Pinkett Smith said it best in an interview, she wants that "intellectual gangster", a guy who can go to an Ice Cube concert one night and have dinner with the president the next. I.e can go caveman in one context and be intelligent and courteous in another.

The other part is the pre-frontal cortex which is the human brain. It's all about executive function. If you're 7 hours into a date, can she see herself having a future with you? Can she see herself introducing you to her friends and family or even telling her friends about you. A guy whose caveman 100% of the time would be a complete turn off to a woman in this regard.

In summary, what you do really well is spiking the reptilian part initially. Where I've seen you fall down is not transitioning or utilising the other two enough. If you can be a well mannered gent in public and an absolute caveman behind closed doors, she'll love you forever.

(03-08-2018, 07:48 AM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-08-2018, 06:52 AM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-07-2018, 11:01 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]I also want to add this in here for you Raykon

Sometimes what seems like to right answer is actually what perpetuates the paradigm. For instance, I've noticed that your response to either a rejection or a bad turn of events with a woman is to "hit the gym and get bigger" i.e more aggression.

Whilst being caveman is incredibly attractive to a woman, it's only attractive to one part of her brain - the reptilian brain. You still have to appeal to the mammalian brain (complex emotions including comfort) and the human brain (prefrontal cortex related to executive function).

In a similar vein, the PUA paradigm and the "nice guy" paradigm also loop back in on themselves and perpetuate the problem. PUA's resolve to learn more game and to game more women and nice guys resolve to be even nicer when they don't get what they want.

In relation to your dream, your action of avoiding death is exactly what is perpetuating your current situation. Everything else that followed was a result of that choice. Sometimes we're terrified of changing who we are because we're so accustomed to the security of who we've been.

I'd presume DMSI is calling upon you to transform yourself hence the subconscious communication through dreams. I'd take that as a solid sign of progress.

I agree with you about how i'm aggressive, The gym helps me get mind off stuff when I'm depressed, but also even though I appear very masculine to women, due to my body language, high test low estrogen and because I prefer to be masculine now.

I still have that femininity within me, it comes out when I have stronger feelings for woman, it's impossible for me to hide it completely. So I still have the ability to create strong comfort and connection in that way.

I definitely imagine I spike up the reptillian part of the brain the most right off the bat because of my strong animal magnetism, looks, and extremely high test. But I don't lose that emotional / feminine side of me completely ever.

How would you reccomend I be more balanced? and is balanced even neccessary? I'm into extremely feminine woman, so i wanted to be extremely masculine.

Lol, I'm not really talking about masculine and feminine (though they're very important). I think you may have misunderstood the mammalian brain for "feminine" and "repitilian" for masculine.

The reptilian brain is purely base and primal emotions. I've noticed you do a good job of arousing that right of the bat. You're also very aware of this which is why it seems to be a prominent part of your strategy.

Where I've seen you go wrong is that you use this when you shouldn't be. Like using a hammer when a screwdriver is needed.

In one instance from reading your journal, you were being caveman over text when what she really wanted was to build some comfort (mammalian) hence why she ended up flaking on you later. You resolved to hit the gym and get bigger which seemed like a paradigm loop (attract women through caveman, goes bad, do more of what attracted her).

You being sensitive isn't the same as building comfort. Building comfort and trust (mammalian brain) is about how she feels about you. The double edge of aggression is she might feel unsafe or be hesitant to commit.

Jada Pinkett Smith said it best in an interview, she wants that "intellectual gangster", a guy who can go to an Ice Cube concert one night and have dinner with the president the next. I.e can go caveman in one context and be intelligent and courteous in another.

The other part is the pre-frontal cortex which is the human brain. It's all about executive function. If you're 7 hours into a date, can she see herself having a future with you? Can she see herself introducing you to her friends and family or even telling her friends about you. A guy whose caveman 100% of the time would be a complete turn off to a woman in this regard.

In summary, what you do really well is spiking the reptilian part initially. Where I've seen you fall down is not transitioning or utilising the other two enough. If you can be a well mannered gent in public and an absolute caveman behind closed doors, she'll love you forever.

That's some great advice I really appreciate it. I think your slightly underestimating the amount of comfort I used on that particular woman (we would text for hours straight some nights mainly comfort game with some attraction sexual innuendo and humor spikes thrown in.

but i agree with you though that I focused too much perhaps on the attraction and aggressive style gaming when I could have used more comfort so she gained more trust and connection with me.

She even told me that I'm too "up and down" and that she doesn't want to be my friend because even as a friend she wants "stability and consistincys" I would be warm and friendly and another moment later i would be a complete asshole/aggressive/indifferent

It was my own ego and lack of emotional control that led to me behaving in that way. In the future i'm just going to react by not reacting (doing nothing) instead of texting or calling in a angry or upset state of mind.

I also showed weakness at the end because after i would be an asshole i'd regret it and start apoligizing and expressing vulnerability. The first two times I did this it was okay and she still really liked me and forgave me for my mistakes.

But the last time I did it she lost all attraction for me.

this was my biggest LOSS (perfect 10/10 with a personality I really vibed with) but i also learned the most from this situation.

Yeah, that's where the pre-frontal cortex comes in. The "human brain". If she can't see herself having some sort of a future with you then it'll impact upon her mind.

If you were an animal in nature you wouldn't have to worry about that but because women have that faculty, they'll be mindful (consciously and unconsciously) about any potential future with you.

so I'l be straight up and tell u guys I went and banged that escort from long time ago (the one born on the exact same day as me who I almost went out with on date)..

Anyways, I got her number now for real and were going to chill.

A few thing I noticed, I'm MUCH better at holding Tension, I'm more of an asshole (i don't think that is because of DMSI though I think its because of my last break up and becoming more bitter and mysogonistic)

She told me i'm more mean then before and she also called me an asshole.

The sex was good and she seemed more into then before. She also let me do things that I wasn't allowed to do before like play with her pussy with my fingers.


I also notice I don't have any strong feelings on a scale of 1-10 a 1 or 2 towards the situation, last time I almost went out with her and almost chilled had allot stronger feelings towards her.

She gave me her instagram and told me to ask for her number there so I sent her my number and asked for hers and she gave me her number with a emoji.

She also said to me in person, "What do you get more confidence the bigger your muscles get?"

because im much bigger then when i banged her last and she also noticed my confidence go up.


Anyways, I told her this is the last time i'm banging escorts and I came to see her.

Which is partially true, another reason why I went and banged her is because i'm going to jail tonight at 7pm for 48 hours like every weekend and TBH its like a drug. I'm a sex addict and sex is my escape from reality and helps me not thiknk about jail.) thats my excuses at least.



I'm happy I banged her though, I did want to see her again. I told her i'm going to bang her for free and were going to chill hence why i got her number.


also that tip u guys gave me about embracing my masculiniity while not losing my feminity has helped allot.

I noticed I had issues expressing myself , like scared to be feminine because I am so extreme and was always on the extreme end of masculinity last 4 years (and on the extreme end of femininity for the rest of my life, although I wasn't gay or seem gay, i had MUCH more feminine energy in the past.)

Now that i'm allowing my feminity to shine through a bit its making me more attractive overall. I know what u guys mean now.

so I just got out of jail for the weekend. Before I went in I sent that escort chick a text saying

"Hey im just about to go in for the weekend. ill give you a shout in a week or 2 when im free & we'll grab some food.I want to see if there is more to you then just a pretty face."

she replied immediately.

"Alright whatever you say brat..was nice seeing you earlier. Be good && we'll chat soon xox"


I'm definitely going to hit it for free.

oh btw for those interested, shes born on the EXACT same day, month and year as me. Strange conincidence right???

ask for the time too, after or before sunrise make a huge difference.

(03-11-2018, 08:09 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ]ask for the time too, after or before sunrise make a huge difference.

I was born 8 15 am.. il ask her for hers sometime...

What is the diffrence, im curious

(03-11-2018, 08:09 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ]ask for the time too, after or before sunrise make a huge difference.

So does the exact hour and minute.

been texting the escort chick (same bday one) today a bit and she is showing major IoI's over text. She is definitely emotionally invested in me, to what degree I don't know but i know for sure she does have feelings.

I told her i'm going to try and make time to chill with her next week.

I also called her and she was busy and she responded with text 15 minutes after. but this is also new to me. DMSI is allowing this change to happen.

In the past phone game was a big sticking point, so i can tell that im anxiety relief is working well!