I believe RisingSon wants the best for all of us however my question is. Are we weak by using DMSI ? Are we weak for using SM ?. Society prizes itself on using technology to accomplish goals more quickly and easier.
DMSI gave me the power to standup to a gang of pimps who were selling drugs to vunerable people. OK it didnt make women come up and ask for sex but thats another topic. Does it make me weak my friend RisingSon to use this great tool ?.
The other day I chased a away a group of youths who were harrassing a middle age man. Simply because there was noone there to help him.
I think if we can awake kundalinin we can use it for some higher purpose for the good of mankind.
(04-14-2017, 12:46 PM)RisingSon Wrote: [ -> ]I had to take a break from the forums and my last failed journal attempt after I discovered something world shattering in my research... Something that drastically changed how I view and interact with most people and there is no coming back from. I now categorize a subset or actually majority of the population entirely differently, as if they are NPCs.
This is the second or third time I've seen Thor bring up Kundalini so I'm chiming in. I had the idea to ask Shannon for a custom Kundalini sub years ago, but now that seems redundant because the subliminals do a good amount of emotional clearing and also prompted me towards taking serious ascetic health goals seriously.
For Kundalini, you have to be pure physically and emotionally. Fasting helps, a hygenic diet system is key, and not getting sucked into most people's negative thought loops is a must. And also, you will end up LOLing at society and it's mockery of the Human condition. In fact, you will likely not be able to easily function in society because once your awareness goes outside the box there is no putting it back in...
If you are having a typical Kundalini rising experience it will appear as a form of psychosis and mania to the uninitiated. Kundalini is best awakened slowly and I've been mastering that approach, but still my energy is off the charts compared to most and it's too hard to relate to people especially some who are like a lower lifeform. Anyways, it's great and feels wonderful, especially the prickly hot pinpricks of energy. There is a lot more to it than that, however. I wouldn't recommend pursuing a full Kundalini awakening until you are fully mature and it seems it doesn't hit most people until their 30-40's anyway.
I was aware of this process before coming across subliminals and even know what series of visualization meditations to perform for a guaranteed Kundalini rising experience but simply am not ready or secluded enough to do so. I'd have to be full monk mode and even more of a recluse with no current mundane goals or pursuits. Having girls give you the deer-in-the-headlights expression would be only the beginning of what you could do to manipulate people or animals. Those who pursue expanded awareness for power aka Siddhis alone are bound to fail and are not pure enough, because those are base desires.
So... Are you ready to go live like a Tibetan monk in a cave for years only subsisting off your own urine and pondering the Dao? Didn't think so.
And Shannon isn't necessarily a Kundalini technician, you can't give someone else the authority over your own spiritual awakening LOL!!! SHEEPLE!!!
THE FACT THAT YOU ARE BEGGING FOR A KUNDALINI SUBLIMINAL SHOWS HOW JUVENILE YOU ALL ARE!!! YOU ARE WEAK!!! YOU ARE NOT READY!!!
Edit: here's one of the better Kundalini descriptions or postulations I've found, well written by an engineer (Ctrl+F then search "egg" and you will find it)
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/hist...ndalin.htm
Quote:Faith in
Except that it is.. talking about rule 4 while pretending not to.
Nox,
One kundaline practitioner claimed he can make traffic lights change and he often does this when he is in a hurry when he sees a red light up ahead. Sounds far fetched to me what are your thoughts ?
(04-16-2017, 01:34 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Nox,
One kundaline practitioner claimed he can make traffic lights change and he often does this when he is in a hurry when he sees a red light up ahead. Sounds far fetched to me what are your thoughts ?
A lot of kundalini stories are bullshit or something else that is similar to a true rising.
The streetlight thing could be completely made up or legitimate, but you don't need kundalini to do it.
I don't think it's a real account, though. Being habitually late or in a hurry isn't a habit you'd want to have for stability reasons. Being tense or hurried isn't a good thing and you'd fix the issue with other methods. If it is a real account the practitioner uses sloppy methods.
(04-16-2017, 01:34 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Nox,
One kundaline practitioner claimed he can make traffic lights change and he often does this when he is in a hurry when he sees a red light up ahead. Sounds far fetched to me what are your thoughts ?
Man I would love to have this skill. I would go through the city and make the traffic go berserk.
I am still curious whether a sub could be designed to open the 3rd eye to allow to see beyond our standard vision. If MHS can heal and regenerate there is nothing to stop a sub for 3rd eye opening.
Nox when i was running MHS last night I felt energy going up my spine. It was like i was about to be awakened very bizzare. Will keep this thread going and keep you posted.
(04-17-2017, 05:45 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Nox when i was running MHS last night I felt energy going up my spine. It was like i was about to be awakened very bizzare. Will keep this thread going and keep you posted.
Any of Shannon's subs that use energy flooding have the potential to cause this. Depending upon how well you bring in the energy it'll first use as directed initially, but it'll also start filling up your normal energetic movements beyond what they're used to most likely. Think of a river flowing. It starts to rain a lot (energy flooding) and that water saturates the land and flows I to the river also so that the river is now carrying much more water.
A good thing to look into to understand the movements through your torso is the microcosmic orbit in general, and the governor and conception meridians specifically. From there you can look into the other meridians to see how the flow works through the limbs and organs.
Spoke to one of the instructors from kundalini awakening he told me that. He was in a plane flying over the Philippines. One of the engines broke down or failed for some reason. He had to use kundalini energy to keep the plane in the air. To allow it to land safely. Again sounds very far fetched however he seemed very serious about this.
I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.
(04-17-2017, 12:28 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.
I would recommend never paying for shaktipat
Nox I believe you to be the expert in Kundalini awakening. However I would like to hear from you why you feel that you should never pay for shaktipa ?.
Correct me if i am wrong its like saying Shannon should not be charging money for this subs ?
(04-17-2017, 12:35 PM)Nox Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2017, 12:28 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.
I would recommend never paying for shaktipat
(04-18-2017, 09:33 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Nox I believe you to be the expert in Kundalini awakening. However I would like to hear from you why you feel that you should never pay for shaktipa ?.
Correct me if i am wrong its like saying Shannon should not be charging money for this subs ?
(04-17-2017, 12:35 PM)Nox Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2017, 12:28 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.
I would recommend never paying for shaktipat
There are zero issues with Shannon charging for his subs. They are based on knowledge and skills he developed and so he is completely in the right to charge for them as he sees fit.
Kundalini isn't something a person does on their own. I can't think of a decent comparison, but it'd be similar to me charging someone for using something special to my mother without my mother's consent.
Shaktipat for a person with an already awakened kundalini also acts differently than for someone that hasn't begun. It can help the process or it can force and start it. The later is rather irresponsible if done for money. If it's in a student teacher relationship that's already established that is different as there is already an acknowledgement of trade back and forth for the betterment of both, but even then charging a fee for shaktipat is wrong.
Charging money for kundalini is just a nasty idea. I don't trust anyone that would do it. I've read about and helped some people through some terrible experiences that have happened because of it.
Edit:. I'm no expert man. I'm still learning just like everyone else. I've just experienced and seen enough to understand that a lot of "experts" in spiritual matters realized that using terms like expert and master or whatever helps them get more money out of people.
Kundalini is the process of saving yourself, so it wouldn't be wise to pay someone else to do it for you - in some spiritual ethics sense. Then you may end up with situations like that Indian guru Osho who had amassed nearly 100 Rolls Royces paid for by the penance of his followers.
Bad guru!
Traditionally it was kept behind closed doors for initiates in ancient mystery schools who underwent trials to test them and be certain of their commitment to expanding consciousness beyond realms of ordinary... And then ascending in the magical boat to mystery land or wherever because they did believe at that point in living forever whether in this life or the next.
Since then much of that knowledge on how to do such things safely, in an orderly fashion, with symbolic rituals and tests has been lost - along with the destination. Many will go through a roller coaster of Kundalini experience with unexplainable things happening to them when they are ill-prepared. This also triggers The Dark Night of The Soul for many including myself, as the energy is getting driven into blocked channels and stirring up all kinds of emotional karmic debris. So, like anything, it seems that it cannot come without some struggle... Even if that struggle is only abandoning all worldviews that you once held as normal or socially acceptable.
However, like it has been said, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" and Shannon's subs are obviously verging on this point. Good for him and us, but I can't get behind the whole promoting him to a guru thing. However again, if I were to simplify I see Kundalini as merely an awakening and developing of a person's subtle energy bodies (etheric, astral, ???) until they come to a certain level of awareness or dominance and for this reason it can be demystified. Kundalini is yet more than that - a supremely intelligent primal force that wants to become self-sustaining.
All in all, good stuff and makes me want to do some more energy flooding. If energy flooding is somehow concentrating and accumulating ORMUS molecules (similar to orgone) then it is most excellent. These elusive, volatile particles are everywhere but especially in sea water and volcanic minerals. They were rediscovered recently and are what feed the subtle bodies along with nervous system. Still, only a piece to the puzzle.