(11-08-2016, 09:57 PM)FluffyBunny Wrote: [ -> ] (11-08-2016, 09:33 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]Do you tone down the intensity of your approach when you daygame?
Yes, very casual, toned down. Usually if i do this it would open just friendly. But in my case today seems like its too much for some girls and they hurry off.
some would ask me why am i talking to them. when i already overtly tell them why.
Hrmmm. In daygame, I go strong direct. But not full on like night game. Although my eye contact and vocal projection is still strong. I normally approach from the side and touch her arm when complimenting her. It works for me.
Yeah Ben, it's probably not the best advice, I agree most people would have serious issues following it. But it's not like I look for situations or anything like that.
To me, it's not about fronting hard. I have no qualms about hurting another guy who tries to hurt me. I go straight for the jugular, but that's mostly verbal. I agree that it all depends on the situation. The idea behind my posts were self-protection. The best thing he can do for himself is to bulk up and learn combat.
Beating up a guy for calling you a faggot is an overreaction, but I was writing in context to his story. They were taunting him several times, at faggot I'd seriously draw the line.
Situations will arise, and I'd rather be prepared for it than end up on my knees. I generally don't like other men, don't want to associate with them at all. I like my family, friends and going for hot women. The rest I don't care about, and if they start shit with me, it's coming in one way or another.
Two nights out:
first night , went to a club with few friends , age group was a little higher then 19 and this older lady around 35-40 was pretty into me and a little bit touchy. and rest were in more "normal" attraction going on with girls around 25. everything is decently smooth with these girls.
Second night went to more of a house party and most girls here were 18 and 19. And i opened probly more then 10 but i literally got shut down by them all. Some would dance with me a bit and then just leave after its done. Like pretty much all of them ran away lol. not literally but they all just leave. most retarded thing ive seen. Some of them when i look at them in the eye it feels like they cant handle it or something and leaves too.
Fricken with a girl who I encounter like 4 times then later grindined with me also touched me first
Then when I decided to grind with her more like hold onto and shit
Because I did that it's like its going downhill Like wtf
Wasn't even me who initated the interaction but seems like whenever I make a move it's just downhill.. Weird
Another one even more retarded, so I was leading this girl to another dance floor, then we got there we started dancing and grinding having fun I pulled her in and we looked at each other and shortly after she leaves.......pretry much sums up th night...
I feel like for me its attracting women thats way too old for me to even care about. and somehow repelling YOUNG chicks thats in my age range that i want ... wth?
If women under 25 are giving you those types of reactions, immediate shut downs or attraction then running away it's probably too much sexuality for them too fast. Pull back on escalation a little and be more social rather than focusing on gaming them. Don't worry about getting friendzoned, you've got DMSI front-loading attraction for you, you don't need to do anything but show up and let them realize you're not a stalker or sleazy creep. Once you're actually back at your place then you can begin escalating hard.
I did realized that being a possible so i adjust with many girls i was just dancing in their circle , and chatting for a bit. But once i take the girls hand to dance with her a bit ( no grinding) , the girl tends to leave. Like thats barely even that strong of an escalation...
so i was line going insdie, and was chatting with theses girls behind me. One compliments me on my looks. saying i look spiffy, So i went insdie first... later in the night i saw them, said Hey, just dancing in the group having fun. And a little bit in i just took one of the girls hand and spin her and dance a bit and released her hand shortly after... nothing hard escalation at all. you can even quality this dancing like dancing with a fricken female friend. Shortly after she whisper something to her friend and they left.
another one is the two girls infront of me in line. so i saw them inside too. dance iwth them as well. This time im thinking ima just take both of the girls hand and dance like a group to have fun. so no pressure on any of either one. So i took both of their hands and the girls did too and we danced a bit... after same shit happened shortly after they left. excuse is always similar like looking for a friend or xyzxyz.
(11-12-2016, 02:31 PM)FluffyBunny Wrote: [ -> ]I did realized that being a possible so i adjust with many girls i was just dancing in their circle , and chatting for a bit. But once i take the girls hand to dance with her a bit ( no grinding) , the girl tends to leave. Like thats barely even that strong of an escalation...
so i was line going insdie, and was chatting with theses girls behind me. One compliments me on my looks. saying i look spiffy, So i went insdie first... later in the night i saw them, said Hey, just dancing in the group having fun. And a little bit in i just took one of the girls hand and spin her and dance a bit and released her hand shortly after... nothing hard escalation at all. you can even quality this dancing like dancing with a fricken female friend. Shortly after she whisper something to her friend and they left.
another one is the two girls infront of me in line. so i saw them inside too. dance iwth them as well. This time im thinking ima just take both of the girls hand and dance like a group to have fun. so no pressure on any of either one. So i took both of their hands and the girls did too and we danced a bit... after same shit happened shortly after they left. excuse is always similar like looking for a friend or xyzxyz.
Just a suggestion. Why not let the sub do its thing? The girls should be approaching you. Not you approaching them. Give it time, I beleive that it will happen.
That's exactly the mindset going around that's causing alot of the people on DMSI issues, to the level of "Oh if she's right next to me and staring at me I can't even say hi because no she's meant to do it".
(11-12-2016, 10:51 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]That's exactly the mindset going around that's causing alot of the people on DMSI issues, to the level of "Oh if she's right next to me and staring at me I can't even say hi because no she's meant to do it".
This is not what I am saying. My suggestion was based on the details he provided in his post. We need to keep in mind what the end goal of the sub is, which is that the user should be approached first. Unless I have mis-understood fluffy's post, (which is possible since English is not my first language) he's doing the approaching, with the exception of the time when the girl told him that he looked spiffy, which is an IOI.
(11-12-2016, 02:31 PM)FluffyBunny Wrote: [ -> ]I did realized that being a possible so i adjust with many girls i was just dancing in their circle , and chatting for a bit. But once i take the girls hand to dance with her a bit ( no grinding) , the girl tends to leave. Like thats barely even that strong of an escalation...
so i was line going insdie, and was chatting with theses girls behind me. One compliments me on my looks. saying i look spiffy, So i went insdie first... later in the night i saw them, said Hey, just dancing in the group having fun. And a little bit in i just took one of the girls hand and spin her and dance a bit and released her hand shortly after... nothing hard escalation at all. you can even quality this dancing like dancing with a fricken female friend. Shortly after she whisper something to her friend and they left.
another one is the two girls infront of me in line. so i saw them inside too. dance iwth them as well. This time im thinking ima just take both of the girls hand and dance like a group to have fun. so no pressure on any of either one. So i took both of their hands and the girls did too and we danced a bit... after same shit happened shortly after they left. excuse is always similar like looking for a friend or xyzxyz.
Did you re-approach any of them? Maybe it's just my style of game but I it's rarely the case that that i will approach a girl, "lock her in", and stay with her for the entire time.
Ya i have tried just not opening girls, and it hardly works man. Another night i was just out with my group of friends, so i decided to just enjoy the night and their company. We mostly danced on the dancefloor and around the club. The music stimuli was very high, even i was enjoying the music a lot. I highly doubt some girl will just randomly snap out of it and be like ohhhhhhh i so need open this guy there and walk over and say hi. Heck even i sometimes dont even do that when i see a super hottie while im having too much fun. Did anything happen.... not really.
Yes re-approach for some of them, usually up to 3 times if i do re-approach given it was decent in the first approach. I wasnt locking the girl in, it was pretty short of an interaction in the cases mentioned above.