Subliminal Talk

(10-30-2011, 10:55 PM)RainbowAbyss Wrote: [ -> ]quote from advertisement of sex magnet

"If, after using Alpha Male and Sex Magnet you can't achieve sex with beautiful women, you really just don't want it."

well that's much nicer than how I remembered the quote which was 'your hopeless' lol got me really scared
but come on Woyce-HOW BAD TO YOU WANT IT! lol

seriously Woyce I'm sure allot will happen for you as well by the time the set is finished but in the meantime I would definitely put yourself out there as much as possible-and push things as far as possible-remember your ABC's always- be -closing for the sake of love and intimate union-for the sake of masculine-feminine merger-for the sake of the wholeness of the universe and for unconditional love-always-be-closing. lol
As I said in my journal my friend who SUCKS with woman got reckless enough last night that he asked a pretty hot but older, 37 maybe, woman ,I quote, "u wanna make out in the back" she rejected it, then went with him, then ran away, then a little later ran back starting making out with him and asked him to take her to his place. So I'd say set the intention to put it all on the table if your interested.
I can't speak for someone several stages into sex magnet-but during Alpha and before when it came to sex I found that if I wasn't getting 'rejected'/turned down enough I didn't want it enough. In fact when I really put myself out there I could say that I sleep with one girl for every ten that turn me down- and that's including on the approach, haha not the best ratio and maybe not everyone's style but still...

Thank you Rainbow for your input. good boost for me.

I wouldn't say its that i don't want it because i do. I have started at a different place then you and most of the other people on this sub right now. Not just because i am a virgin, as i thought there was another person that was as well.

Honestly i don't know if you ever read my first journal on here but ill give some background on myself as to why I was the way I was.

I hated people. I wanted nothing more then to be by myself and as far away from people when i first started to better myself. hate is a strong word, that's why i didn't talk to to many people and stuck to my video games growing up.

Part of hating people included women. Don't get me wrong I love women but most of my life i felt like i was being played in some sick twisted game for there amusement. I got sick of being set up just for them to knock me down. Which of course led to my inevitable down fall of confidence and self esteem. As i am sure Shannon would say the victim personality.

i used this as a means not to get close to to many people. as a result I lacked a lot of social skills. i didn't learn what was needed to say or do epically when it came to women.

As Ryan said i have very little experience and it all feels like a kid in the candy store for me. I am taking steps whether big or small. All honesty if i do have lots of sex by the end of this sub it wasn't my main goal of sex magnet. My main goal was sexual confidence and opening that door for greater opportunity for myself.

(10-31-2011, 05:41 AM)Ryan Wrote: [ -> ]Well, there are also those who may need to run it again? I mean, it'll be interesting to see how Tony does at the end of SM considering he doesn't have as much experience. But he's already transformed a lot whether or not he realizes it.

Ryan

Thank you Ryan, this means a lot to me. I am not aware of a lot of the changes i make or have made. i too am curious as to how this will end. Also i will run it again anyways after alpha male round 2.

"I'm sorry, miss, but attractive as you are, I'm afraid I am going to have to put you in the friend zone. You see, I need your help as a friend more than I need you to be my girlfriend, or my lover."

She looked stunned. I continued before she could regain her footing.

"I need a woman's point of view on some important guy stuff. And not just any woman's point of view. I need your point of view."

I paused to let her come to her senses.

"Uh... okay..." she stammered. "Why my point of view?"

"I thought you'd ask that. I need your point of view specifically because you happen to be exactly the sort of woman I find myself most attracted to based on physical features alone. Of course I can't know your personality yet, as we've just met, but physically, you're just the sort of woman I'd like to date. So I am going to make you a sacrificial lamb, if you will, and put you in the friend zone so that you can be my guide to women like you. I know you probably get this all the time, but I would really appreciate your help. For instance, I need to understand what a woman like you finds attractive in a man. What sort of dress styles you find attractive on a man. What sort of colognes you appreciate on a man. And perhaps any little quirks you have that you find especially attractive, such as perhaps men who use pocket watches. Think of me as yours to guide into becoming the perfect man. If you're interested. The downside, of course, is that we can't be more than friends. The upside is, well, you'll get to help me become the sort of guy exceptional women such as yourself appreciate."

She laughed a beautiful laugh that reminded me of snowflakes, and then smiled the biggest smile I had ever seen. It was on.

(11-01-2011, 08:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]"I'm sorry, miss, but attractive as you are, I'm afraid I am going to have to put you in the friend zone. You see, I need your help as a friend more than I need you to be my girlfriend, or my lover."

She looked stunned. I continued before she could regain her footing.

"I need a woman's point of view on some important guy stuff. And not just any woman's point of view. I need your point of view."

I paused to let her come to her senses.

"Uh... okay..." she stammered. "Why my point of view?"

"I thought you'd ask that. I need your point of view specifically because you happen to be exactly the sort of woman I find myself most attracted to based on physical features alone. Of course I can't know your personality yet, as we've just met, but physically, you're just the sort of woman I'd like to date. So I am going to make you a sacrificial lamb, if you will, and put you in the friend zone so that you can be my guide to women like you. I know you probably get this all the time, but I would really appreciate your help. For instance, I need to understand what a woman like you finds attractive in a man. What sort of dress styles you find attractive on a man. What sort of colognes you appreciate on a man. And perhaps any little quirks you have that you find especially attractive, such as perhaps men who use pocket watches. Think of me as yours to guide into becoming the perfect man. If you're interested. The downside, of course, is that we can't be more than friends. The upside is, well, you'll get to help me become the sort of guy exceptional women such as yourself appreciate."

She laughed a beautiful laugh that reminded me of snowflakes, and then smiled the biggest smile I had ever seen. It was on.

Jesus, your mean lol

@Woyce, I was not aware you were a virgin. That changes my perspective on everything.
I would say don't be in a rush just to do it to do it, and at the same time don't try to make it too special

(11-02-2011, 12:18 AM)RainbowAbyss Wrote: [ -> ]@Woyce, I was not aware you were a virgin. That changes my perspective on everything.
I would say don't be in a rush just to do it to do it, and at the same time don't try to make it too special

Its fine dude we all have to start somewhere

I think as soon as Tony joins the club he's going to be getting laid like there's no tomorrow ;P But as far as the stories you've told me...you've come a long way. A lot more than any other person I've seen do in a year.

Ryan

(11-01-2011, 11:22 PM)RainbowAbyss Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2011, 08:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]"I'm sorry, miss, but attractive as you are, I'm afraid I am going to have to put you in the friend zone. You see, I need your help as a friend more than I need you to be my girlfriend, or my lover."

She looked stunned. I continued before she could regain her footing.

"I need a woman's point of view on some important guy stuff. And not just any woman's point of view. I need your point of view."

I paused to let her come to her senses.

"Uh... okay..." she stammered. "Why my point of view?"

"I thought you'd ask that. I need your point of view specifically because you happen to be exactly the sort of woman I find myself most attracted to based on physical features alone. Of course I can't know your personality yet, as we've just met, but physically, you're just the sort of woman I'd like to date. So I am going to make you a sacrificial lamb, if you will, and put you in the friend zone so that you can be my guide to women like you. I know you probably get this all the time, but I would really appreciate your help. For instance, I need to understand what a woman like you finds attractive in a man. What sort of dress styles you find attractive on a man. What sort of colognes you appreciate on a man. And perhaps any little quirks you have that you find especially attractive, such as perhaps men who use pocket watches. Think of me as yours to guide into becoming the perfect man. If you're interested. The downside, of course, is that we can't be more than friends. The upside is, well, you'll get to help me become the sort of guy exceptional women such as yourself appreciate."

She laughed a beautiful laugh that reminded me of snowflakes, and then smiled the biggest smile I had ever seen. It was on.

Jesus, your mean lol

But... you're laughing. And it works.

Yea Shannon, that was some smart shit. I don't quite think like that but I love your approach.

As for losing one's virginity, I'll toss my 2c in. The best advice I can offer is this. Your first time is going to be something you will never, ever forget, good or bad. Do your best to find someone understanding, who will make it as positive an experience as possible. Don't expect to be a sex god your first time, or second, or tenth, or fiftieth. Make sure she knows beforehand that you're a virgin, and this is your first time. And ask her to show you what is what between her legs and what to do with it. How to touch her, not just there, but her breasts, and other places. Be gentle with her, be humble, ask for directions, be considerate, and learn how to breathe through your ears.

Trust me, most women who have any level of maturity at all would be thrilled to show you how to please them sexually, if you just ask. And a good one will go to great lengths to teach you what to do and how to do it. The key is to be humble. The older you are when you lose it, the more humble you have to be about it.

Use a condom, cause babies happen. And lube, too, if necessary, because condoms can break if she's not wet enough. That happened my first time. She was so anxious to get started that she was still dry, and the condom broke after a few strokes. Condoms also help with self control. Learn how to put it on before you are in the situation, if you don't already know how. That was a big reason I lost my virginity late - the girls I had around were absolutely merciless if a guy didn't already know what he was doing. I was terrified of being laughed at and having my reputation destroyed at school.

And finally... if she's willing to go that far, and she has a boyfriend... think long and hard before accepting. Or turning her down. But not too long, because females are fickle creatures when it comes to sex, and she may rescind her offer if you take too long. I was offered a night of fun at the beach with a friend's girlfriend, and I turned it down because she was my friend's girlfriend. Only to find that he really wasn't my friend, and she would have been my best option for losing my virginity to...

Hope this helps a little.

If I could go back and do it again... I'd give me this same exact advice.

from what I've read your progress is definitely potent,
just to put things in perspective, I lost my virginity to a prostitute in Amsterdam
after 5 days of drug induced haze, stuff you couldn't pay me to take now, on basically a dare from my friends. I'd almost rather still be a virgin than have that happen in retrospect. Although I'm not gonna lie, after that the floodgates for regular consenting sex did open up, but I'm sure that had more to do with realizing that sex is no big deal on a visceral experiential level. I'm sure the floodgates will open up for you to very soon...to paraphrase Brent says "your always one interaction away from changing the rest of your life."

thank you guys its all great info and stories. I am not all that worried about losing it. i know it will happen i just need to do as Shannon said in his post of advice. I would be the first to admit that it scared the living hell out of me. I also put a lot of excuses as to why i shouldn't do it. Alpha male and sex magnet have helped me tremendously get over a lot of that negativity.

change of subject.

Shannon, I had gotten a migraine (not from the subs) and actually since starting alpha male up until yesterday i had not had one in a long time. MY migraines are the aura, nausea vomiting inducing type. It completely drained me of my energy.

My question to you is could this be like a hard drive wipe type of thing for the sub to finish "installing"? or just a major energy shift that drains me to a weaker state? what are your thoughts on migraines?

(11-02-2011, 07:54 PM)woceyes Wrote: [ -> ]thank you guys its all great info and stories. I am not all that worried about losing it. i know it will happen i just need to do as Shannon said in his post of advice. I would be the first to admit that it scared the living hell out of me. I also put a lot of excuses as to why i shouldn't do it. Alpha male and sex magnet have helped me tremendously get over a lot of that negativity.

change of subject.

Shannon, I had gotten a migraine (not from the subs) and actually since starting alpha male up until yesterday i had not had one in a long time. MY migraines are the aura, nausea vomiting inducing type. It completely drained me of my energy.

My question to you is could this be like a hard drive wipe type of thing for the sub to finish "installing"? or just a major energy shift that drains me to a weaker state? what are your thoughts on migraines?

I did some research into migraines while building the headache releaser that I used for my own cluster headaches when I was having them. There are several varieties of migraine, and they don't all have the same triggers. Some are suspected to be caused by multiple things, and some have triggers they don't know yet.

It is possible that what you suggest could be true, but I would say it's pretty damned unlikely. Look for a more physical reason, as most migraines seem to have primarily physical triggers, such as grinding your teeth at night, hypertension, etc. My best educated guess as to what was causing my cluster headaches, for example, is a specific type of pollen.

(11-03-2011, 02:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-02-2011, 07:54 PM)woceyes Wrote: [ -> ]thank you guys its all great info and stories. I am not all that worried about losing it. i know it will happen i just need to do as Shannon said in his post of advice. I would be the first to admit that it scared the living hell out of me. I also put a lot of excuses as to why i shouldn't do it. Alpha male and sex magnet have helped me tremendously get over a lot of that negativity.

change of subject.

Shannon, I had gotten a migraine (not from the subs) and actually since starting alpha male up until yesterday i had not had one in a long time. MY migraines are the aura, nausea vomiting inducing type. It completely drained me of my energy.

My question to you is could this be like a hard drive wipe type of thing for the sub to finish "installing"? or just a major energy shift that drains me to a weaker state? what are your thoughts on migraines?

I did some research into migraines while building the headache releaser that I used for my own cluster headaches when I was having them. There are several varieties of migraine, and they don't all have the same triggers. Some are suspected to be caused by multiple things, and some have triggers they don't know yet.

It is possible that what you suggest could be true, but I would say it's pretty damned unlikely. Look for a more physical reason, as most migraines seem to have primarily physical triggers, such as grinding your teeth at night, hypertension, etc. My best educated guess as to what was causing my cluster headaches, for example, is a specific type of pollen.

ok im pretty sure mine was triggered from lack of sleep or to much caffeine. it just popped into my head as a thought not really a theory. I just wondered how the sub could affect the state of being i was in afterwords. That makes sense tho lol

My questions have been well nourished thanks Shannon and i know odd question in my sex magnet journal