Subliminal Talk

I'm having a hard time understanding how you can want to pay $1000 for 2x sub programs that will potentially give you all you want, commit to the timings for two years then resist the s**t out of them so you get no results!

Guero committed the finances and time, along with a deep desire for the changes, so I'm at a loss how he would be resisting them so strongly. If you want something really bad, don't you open yourself up to it?
If someone gives me $1000 out of the kindness of their heart, am I really going to to fling it back in their face and tell them to f**k off??

I havent read all the messages here to be honest and only read the last few but im wondering if no results means the following:

1) Not enough re-runs of AM, since its clear to me many here wont get enough from 1 run through and Shannon does say repeat it atleast twice or is it 3times

2) Could it be that due to not enough re-runs then SM etc wont be as effective

3) AM doesnt get you women - now im totally unsure if being an AM is alone enough to get women, I am assuming being an AM simply gets you to be at the stage where perhaps you are ready for women and life, but doesnt one have to then learn how to become the magnet?

please correct me so I can learn

thanks

(08-09-2015, 09:31 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]I havent read all the messages here to be honest and only read the last few but im wondering if no results means the following:

1) Not enough re-runs of AM, since its clear to me many here wont get enough from 1 run through and Shannon does say repeat it atleast twice or is it 3times

2) Could it be that due to not enough re-runs then SM etc wont be as effective

3) AM doesnt get you women - now im totally unsure if being an AM is alone enough to get women, I am assuming being an AM simply gets you to be at the stage where perhaps you are ready for women and life, but doesnt one have to then learn how to become the magnet?

please correct me so I can learn

thanks

1) It depends on the individual, his skill with woman, for some 1 run will be enough

2) Yes it won't be as effective, but for some it will be enough to be attractive to some women. Depending on your goal it may be plenty enough.

3) AM isn't as focus on women but I think with AM alone you can get good enough. I did it twice and I think I'm not far away from being good with woman. If you are unsure just run AM and you will be the judge on the results, depending on your results you will know. In some journals you can read that some guys had very decent results with AM alone though not as powerful as SM3. SM3 is focus on sex, so it's normal you get more than with AM6. But if you didn't get any results with AM6 it is less likely that you will get results with SM3.

(08-09-2015, 01:18 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]I'm having a hard time understanding how you can want to pay $1000 for 2x sub programs that will potentially give you all you want, commit to the timings for two years then resist the s**t out of them so you get no results!

Guero committed the finances and time, along with a deep desire for the changes, so I'm at a loss how he would be resisting them so strongly. If you want something really bad, don't you open yourself up to it?
If someone gives me $1000 out of the kindness of their heart, am I really going to to fling it back in their face and tell them to f**k off??

If you are assume he is sincere yes, if he committed to play the sub seriously. If he really wanted the change. If his set up was working properly. We are not sure about that. I'm not saying he is lying but we don't know about it. How can you be sure about it Ricardo, do you know him personally? You can't use blind faith here.

Also it was said that some personality resist the change and it take more time. You can check some journals and you will see that some people did 2 years with subliminals and while they did improve to some extent they didn't reach some individual exceptional results yet (getting laid 4 times a month for example)

(08-09-2015, 10:15 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]If you are assume he is sincere yes, if he committed to play the sub seriously. If he really wanted the change. If his set up was working properly. We are not sure about that. I'm not saying he is lying but we don't know about it. How can you be sure about it Ricardo, do you know him personally? You can't use blind faith here.

If he hadn't got the hang of listening to them correctly in two years then I find that even more difficult to believe. There's so much here on how to play these subs, you'd have to be pretty stupid to still be doing it wrong two years down the line.

It's most likely just him. Nothing will work for everyone every time - it's just one of those things...

Interesting points guys...

I still say it's because he didn't use Sennheisers. LOL.

(08-09-2015, 01:18 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]I'm having a hard time understanding how you can want to pay $1000 for 2x sub programs that will potentially give you all you want, commit to the timings for two years then resist the s**t out of them so you get no results!

Guero committed the finances and time, along with a deep desire for the changes, so I'm at a loss how he would be resisting them so strongly. If you want something really bad, don't you open yourself up to it?
If someone gives me $1000 out of the kindness of their heart, am I really going to to fling it back in their face and tell them to f**k off??

Firstly, we are taking him at his word that he used the correctly and consistently. There have been some questions raised as to if he actually did, but presuming that he did, you must never forget the biggest problem I have with making these programs work for everyone:

1. The conscious and subconscious minds can, and frequently do disagree, and
2. When they disagree, the subconscious mind will ALWAYS win out, and
3. The subconscious mind is not rational beyond doing what it believes is the desired programming.

So a person can potentially consciously want to change and genuinely try to change, and their subconscious mind can potentially sabotage and resist that change at the same time. You see it all the time, and it's rampant in the United States right now with people who are addicted to drugs, overweight, smoking, etc. etc.

Given the right combination of personality/physiology/subconscious programming/fears/conscious beliefs, it is possible for a very small percentage of the populace to succeed in achieving a state of consciously unintentional/subconsciously intentional failure through flat resisting the program while genuinely trying to change, even using these programs. I estimate that for the 5G stuff that is less than 1% of the population.

It really has nothing to do with logic. It has to do with what seems to invariably boil down to fear, and fear is an emotional response, and emotions are by their very nature irrational. So it is indeed possible for a person who even seems to be perfectly rational to fail out of fear, because not every aspect of them is rational.

Where we get into out of bounds is when we have this happen and the person comes back and attacks us for their experience. Presuming, of course, that they did use it correctly.

Sounds like 6G, from what you've said about the enhanced connection between the conscious and subconscious then, should help people like this who are throttling back their results.

Sounds like SM4 will be the perfect program for me. I've discovered there's quite a bit of contradictory stuff going on in my head about girls and sex, holding back my results with SM3. SM4 in 6G sounds perfect to address that. In the meantime I'll keep running SM3 and maybe one run of AM6, depending on how long it takes to make SM4. I'm thinking probably like 1.5 years at least, we'll see.

You of course are assuming a lot in talking about a 6 stage set in 6G. But we shall see. 6G is designed to overcome issues like these by doing many things that enhance the results, including aligning the conscious and subconscious minds towards a common goal. The prototype works very well, and is still being regularly and greatly improved upon. If I keep going an my current rate of improvement, it looks like at some point in 2016 I will reach a point with it that will allow me to achieve really fantastic results; but we still have to answer the question, "Can I translate it from the prototype to anything else?"

Oh of course, I'm merely going by your journal entries. And I'm going by that story you told about the psychic saying you'll be making "the big three" AM, SM, and WM, once more in 6G LOL .

It sounds like it has tons of potential, but who knows.

I was just saying that based off what you said about the enhanced connection between the subconscious and conscious with 6G, it sounds amazing for those who struggle to see results out of 5G and require multiple runs. Naturally those who didn't struggle with 5G results will see even more out of it.

Who knows, very exciting time though. For now we have to make do with the most powerful subs in the world in 5G lol.

(08-11-2015, 11:13 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Oh of course, I'm merely going by your journal entries. And I'm going by that story you told about the psychic saying you'll be making "the big three" AM, SM, and WM, once more in 6G LOL .

I spent 30 years listening to those people and it was all b******t.

(08-12-2015, 10:28 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-11-2015, 11:13 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Oh of course, I'm merely going by your journal entries. And I'm going by that story you told about the psychic saying you'll be making "the big three" AM, SM, and WM, once more in 6G LOL .

I spent 30 years listening to those people and it was all b******t.

I 100% agree. I was just referencing a story he told about it and some vision the psychic had that he will build them. And to give a hint to get them out asap haha.

"Build it, and they will come."

Lol.

(08-06-2015, 06:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Notice that Guero completely ignores what I said, and then continues to be confrontational. Notice that he is still unphased and attacking with insisting that it is placebo. Notice that he says he got where he wanted to go using other methods, which draws into question whether or not he was actually following the instructions (no other mind programming).

Now what we see here is exactly what I said we were dealing with. Very strong will, very capable of resisting change, and very motivated to do so. Refusing to acknowledge things that make his attacks questionable, while repeating his attacks as if no counterpoint was even given. Instead of just stating that he didn't get results, he has to attack, which is a typical fear based reaction. Attacking the alphaness of someone who has had results, while claiming to have not gotten results himself, which doesn't strike me as being very self secure (or alpha) behavior.

What we are dealing with here is someone who just wants to be right, and get attention while he's at it. It is very common for people who have a deep suconscious fear of not manitaining control of themselves to resist subliminals and it is also common for them to blame the subliminal when they do. It is also very common for such a personality to need to be "right".

Guero, if you want and are still eligible for a refund, by all means, get one. But please don't troll us. If you didn't get results, then you didn't get results. I have explained why. You have verified my assessment with further posts. There's nothing to see here. Insults and attacks are unnecessary. Obviously other forms of self change are going to be better suited to you.

In what sense am I attacking anything? You're just being defensive over your product. No one is trolling. I'm just stating the truth. If anyone is attacking, it's you.