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(08-06-2015, 02:55 AM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2015, 02:50 AM)Guero Wrote: [ -> ]Alpha 360 you are definitely not alpha or even cool if you put all that effort into even looking me up. Why should you care if it works so well for you?

That's normal thing to do to prove are you just trolling or not.

Anyway there are plenty question on the first page, please answer that so we can discuss.

I don't know why you post here if you don't want to discuss anything.

And here are all the answers


(08-04-2015, 06:16 AM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]That time while you using that programs, why not discuss anything here my friend? Smile

It may be just placebo for some people but on the other hand it is life changing subs for another people.

Can you give use more detail about how did you used it? Your life experience? How many hours each day? Anything?

And..why not ask for refund?

I used it as the directions said. My life experience was forced to be rough on me, but it made me grow as a person. 12-18 hours each day.

(08-04-2015, 06:35 AM)jbdefence Wrote: [ -> ]After over two years you should be able to tell us more than that, A better more in depth debrief would be appreciated if you don't mind

In depth over the last 2 years of my life? Well they were horrible. It'd take a book to write up my last 2 years lol. But some important things are I held on to a lot of issues with women, I've lost my ability to trust, I'm still introverted, and the Sex Magnet isn't doing too much magnetism. I've been getting myself freshened back up and it's going to be the next semester soon, so I should be back to a regular sex life.
That about sums up what you wanna know.


(08-04-2015, 07:18 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]I can see how someone could say that. Have you tried some of the simpler, more focused subs like OF1.1 or Stress relief? For me, AM6 has been this subtle improve-everything-by-a-little-bit experience on both run-throughs, but I'm not aware of anyone doing OF for a month or more and reporting that it had no effects whatsoever. So if you want to be completely sure its placebo, I'd try that.

I'll give it a shot just to take up the challenge.


(08-04-2015, 07:24 AM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]Guero, I don't know if that three subs did absolutely nothing for you OR the naturalizer is work too well for you. Please give some details.

Naturalizer? No, I'm practically the exact same person I've been for years, just nicer lol.


(08-04-2015, 07:26 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Did you keep a daily journal offline? If not, with the Naturaliser, it's very hard to tell a difference over time. It's designed on purpose to do that to bypass resistance, to make you think nothing has changed and you were always this way.

I also know you listened at night, and often with one earbud. That likely isn't helping the situation.

Hangout with people you haven't seen in a year or more that have known you for awhile, that's a good test. Also, we need to know how many hours a day you listened. I keep detailed records to track my hours and day to day thoughts etc. to gauge progress. And Shannon had to do several runs of AM, and noticed changes along the way, so I'm sure you've had them as well.

I've done one run of AM6. And AM6 got rid of a 20 year bad habit I had. And it did it RIGHT under my nose, I didn't even realise it! Only when I read another guy's journal, talking about how AM6 got rid of the SAME problem...did I make the connection. You see that? A 20 year problem, erased so effectively that I had to read a guy's journal to realise it was GONE. Had I not have done that, I likely still wouldn't have realised...incredible. So, if it can do that to me for a 20 year problem, I have no doubt if you don't keep vigilant daily records on how you're doing while listening for 2 years, that it can do it to you too and make you believe nothing has changed. That's what it's DESIGNED to do Smile.

I can tell there's no change because I've made no real progress, especially with SM haha. All my bad habits in everything are still there. Oh yea and I quit listening with earbuds and started using my TV pretty soon into it so I was getting full frequency.
Hi again Guero!

Well, if you don't create a journal, even an offline one, it's VERY hard to tell over time if you've made changes or not. These programs are designed to change your perception to make you believe you have always been this way, or we going to change anyway, to bypass resistance. I've already given an example of that from my own life. This isn't something you can just "know" or "feel" or whatever other rationalisation, the subs in 5G work so smoothly that it's so difficult to tell over time. So a journal, even an offline one, is necessary to make sure you can tell difference and to show yourself you're making progress if resistance pops up. Otherwise, you run into the "it's not doing anything for me" problem, because if you don't hit any serious resistance, you will just change over time but hardly realise it. Look at me, that 20 year habit vanished and I didn't even realise it. That's how effective they are.

Also, I have to be honest, judging by your past posts, you've shown a tendency to not listen to instructions and even argue with Shannon on things and have gone on to have poor results in several subs. It's safe to say nobody knows these programs better than him. So buying his subs, and then not listening to his instructions on how to use them effectively, I find perplexing.

Of course, aside from the issues with chafing against the instructions, we have the real issue of you not recording your progress daily which makes it extremely difficult to gauge progress, and/or an issue with how you listen and how often you listen. If you have speakers and headphones that have been proven by you to play the sub perfectly with Frequensee, and you have the volume set at a good volume, for me that's about -40db, and you get a minimum of 8 hours per day of listening in, I find it hard to believe the program has done nothing. Not calling you a liar...I just think either you don't realise HOW you've changed because you haven't journaled your runs, and/or it's an issue with speakers, headphones, volume, or hours listened per day.

I'm betting it's one of those. Look man, I think these things were nonsense, until I tried ASC 5G. I became a believer, and I was a huge skeptic. Maybe try that one, it's free, and it's a VERY focused sub that will show results quick because of it's narrow focus. I'm sure we can fix this problem and get you seeing epic results.
From his writing, sure seems like he's displaying AM traits...

And "I'll take up the challenge?" Seek the Challenge effects? :-)
Guero, I've run OF 1.1 and by day 25 I no longer had any fear of public speaking. 100+ days later, and the fear of public speaking is still gone. Before OF, my fear of public speaking was paralyzing. Now it's totally gone.

I didn't use any tapping, meditation, or any other clearing modality during that time, which means that it was 100% the sub.

How can that possibly be a placebo?
Notice that Guero completely ignores what I said, and then continues to be confrontational. Notice that he is still unphased and attacking with insisting that it is placebo. Notice that he says he got where he wanted to go using other methods, which draws into question whether or not he was actually following the instructions (no other mind programming).

Now what we see here is exactly what I said we were dealing with. Very strong will, very capable of resisting change, and very motivated to do so. Refusing to acknowledge things that make his attacks questionable, while repeating his attacks as if no counterpoint was even given. Instead of just stating that he didn't get results, he has to attack, which is a typical fear based reaction. Attacking the alphaness of someone who has had results, while claiming to have not gotten results himself, which doesn't strike me as being very self secure (or alpha) behavior.

What we are dealing with here is someone who just wants to be right, and get attention while he's at it. It is very common for people who have a deep suconscious fear of not manitaining control of themselves to resist subliminals and it is also common for them to blame the subliminal when they do. It is also very common for such a personality to need to be "right".

Guero, if you want and are still eligible for a refund, by all means, get one. But please don't troll us. If you didn't get results, then you didn't get results. I have explained why. You have verified my assessment with further posts. There's nothing to see here. Insults and attacks are unnecessary. Obviously other forms of self change are going to be better suited to you.
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(08-07-2015, 07:36 AM)XyzN Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-07-2015, 04:32 AM)James_Sky Wrote: [ -> ]i'm going to damn well make sure I get some professional sennhiesers

Haha, thats funny cause I use Sennheisers myself.
Mine are the 558 model.

Yeeeaaahhh buddy! Sennheiser nation lol.

PC 350's over here.

Sorry for derail of super important 100% legit thread.
(08-07-2015, 09:58 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-07-2015, 07:36 AM)XyzN Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-07-2015, 04:32 AM)James_Sky Wrote: [ -> ]i'm going to damn well make sure I get some professional sennhiesers

Haha, thats funny cause I use Sennheisers myself.
Mine are the 558 model.

Yeeeaaahhh buddy! Sennheiser nation lol.

PC 350's over here.

Sorry for derail of super important 100% legit thread.

Of course!!! Sennheiser
(08-07-2015, 02:14 PM)wahyu Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-07-2015, 09:58 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-07-2015, 07:36 AM)XyzN Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-07-2015, 04:32 AM)James_Sky Wrote: [ -> ]i'm going to damn well make sure I get some professional sennhiesers

Haha, thats funny cause I use Sennheisers myself.
Mine are the 558 model.

Yeeeaaahhh buddy! Sennheiser nation lol.

PC 350's over here.

Sorry for derail of super important 100% legit thread.

Of course!!! Sennheiser

No doubt. I'm use Sennheiser all time. Wink
Sennheiser!!

Wait, does it even related? LOL Big Grin
wait for me! im jumping in to

sennheiser earphones rock !!!! woooooo
Is this our new Sennheiser marketing thread or what? Big Grin
(08-07-2015, 10:55 PM)Vincent_Vega Wrote: [ -> ]Is this our new Sennheiser marketing thread or what? Big Grin

Maybe Guero didn't use Sennheisers...lmao.
(08-06-2015, 02:48 AM)Guero Wrote: [ -> ]No need for a journal since shouldn't being an alpha male with women all over you stand out?

Here's the problem. He thought he could press play for 6 months and turn into Justin Bieber. Didn't happen so he says no results, because results to him would have been he's living life with dime ass girls all over him. No girls, no results.

Some people have unrealistic expectations with these subs. It's like a super obese man buying an exercise video, doing it for the recommended time and is like "I'm still not buff? This is bullsh*it doesn't work."

The obese man doesn't look like the buff guy on the cover in 6 months so he ignores the weight he lost, and how much better he's been feeling and just says 'this is bullsh*t, doesn't work.'

We live in magic pill world where everyone wants their magic pills. IMO this site is the closest thing to magic pills existing, and these subs blow my mind daily.

It blows my mind how people expect such unrealistic results though, like damn.

Or maybe he did just successfully resist the most powerful sub in existence for 12 months straight.

The world may never know.
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