Subliminal Talk

DAY 12:Today was tough, my toughest day yet with EPHRA. I felt so much hate towards everybody in the world, even my family. There was that spiral of thoughts that lead to that and I didn't like it one bit. I felt like I was stuck in life with no other way out than off the roof. I guess I have got myself a bit stuck, but I do know there are ways out other than the one my dad often promises to take.
That was some horrible pain that I put myself through. An absolutely shit day for me, 6-7 hour sleep at night probably didn't help. Toward the end of the day I started feeling better.

I want to get out, out from this house where nothing works and everyone thinks they're victims. I want to get to the point where I'm completely independent. I want to be free from feeling that slavery obligation.

Still considering between BASE and AM6: I am more thinking toward BASE, it has a better chance in helping me change my deeply installed "sidewalk" beliefs (reading The Millionaire Fastlane currently) and help me move toward financial freedom. Also if I will choose BASE, I will drop EPRHA since it's included in BASE.

EDIT: I just noticed that yesterday, on my 11th day, I made a post at 11:11. No clue what that means

Edit edit: After writing a post it's easier to create a deeper understanding of what really happened. I think what was happening today was that the programs tarted working on something deep and that's good.
The effect might really be amplified a lot by my tiredness, I was so tired the whole day today, 6-7 hours of sleep is not optimal with this sub. Monday is fine on 4-5hours and Tuesday on 6-7 hours, but the week catches up so I will need to get some sleep tonight. Probably why I haven't been able to catch any of my dreams either.

In addition I've been doing some FEFT for the past few days and I've seen some interesting results. Basically I lie down at night and start working on a random thing, like really, I take a completely random thing and start tapping. I've not really read about FEFT that much, but I think it's better since you're supposed to follow your intuition.
For example, I always have tension in my eyebrows when I'm sleeping on my back, like when you are absolutely angry you get that kind of tension and that makes it impossible to sleep on my back.
I started tapping, Im angry, i release and let it go, PEACE. Then kind of stayed observing at what thought comes up next and kept tapping on what ever came up, weather it seemed related or not. Then I felt like asking myself a question, When have I tried falling asleep on my back and feel angry? and then When has anything that made me angry stopped me from sleeping? All kind of memories started popping up, from when I was a kid and tried sleeping on my back and then something my dad did when he was drunk. After that I could sleep on my back.

I try to do 15 min of tapping during the evenings now when I'm not too tired, and it might be a contributing factor to my results with EPRHA.

(07-17-2014, 09:12 AM)Natious Wrote: [ -> ]DAY 12:Today was tough, my toughest day yet with EPHRA. I felt so much hate towards everybody in the world, even my family. There was that spiral of thoughts that lead to that and I didn't like it one bit. I felt like I was stuck in life with no other way out than off the roof. I guess I have got myself a bit stuck, but I do know there are ways out other than the one my dad often promises to take.
That was some horrible pain that I put myself through. An absolutely shit day for me, 6-7 hour sleep at night probably didn't help. Toward the end of the day I started feeling better.

I want to get out, out from this house where nothing works and everyone thinks they're victims. I want to get to the point where I'm completely independent. I want to be free from feeling that slavery obligation.

Still considering between BASE and AM6: I am more thinking toward BASE, it has a better chance in helping me change my deeply installed "sidewalk" beliefs (reading The Millionaire Fastlane currently) and help me move toward financial freedom. Also if I will choose BASE, I will drop EPRHA since it's included in BASE.

EDIT: I just noticed that yesterday, on my 11th day, I made a post at 11:11. No clue what that means

The 11:11 is numerology and if you seen 11:11 on the 11th day then this is something special. "According to numerology the number 11 possesses the qualities of patience, honesty, spirituality, sensitivity, intuition and is idealistic. I have read on a website that seeing 11:11 can be viewed as a glitch in the matrix, it is a very real way for the spirit world to communicate with us. I don’t know if we will ever find out exactly what it means, I think you can decide for yourself what it means to you. I know I always get a smile on my face when I see it, it definitely makes me feel good and I love to share with others, ‘Hey look! It’s 11:11!’"

Well I'm far from patient
I'm guessing it means that I've found an awesome site for downloading subs that change lives.

It also means you're on the right track meaning the sub you chose is right for you. Should I stop now with ASC as I don't feel anything different from it. I am planning on using EPRHA as I need to clear a lot of crap.

ASC might take some time to start implementing deep changes. If you started with it, I would suggest keeping with it at least for 32 days so you can see the difference from the sub. I personally believe that if you start swapping around in subs already in the beginning, you have a harder time committing later on if you plan on using some of the more "strict" programs like AM6.
Give it at least a nice few days and you will start seeing some results. Also the best thing is to not be on the forums all the time if you feel a bit impatient like me. Just keep playing it and do what ever you normally do, then maybe update on your journal every few days or so, but that's not even necessary. Be sure to get at least 8 hours of exposure a day for optimal results.
Good luck with your journey!

EDIT: I also don't use speakers with ultrasonic, I only use earphones with trickling stream, even when I sleep (took a bit of getting used to, but now it's a bonus since I wake up very easily and the sound blocks out noise) which takes some getting used to so you don't break the headphone's wire or hurt your ear.

I'm in about 50 days now and nothing is really happening. I've been doing 12 hours and I'm still not being able to even speak to strangers. I still have low confidence but my body language has changed. I keep it going for 90 days and see where I am at. Perhaps I need to do eft.

Try switching to EPRHA then. You've obviously got other issues that need working on first. EPRHA should be the first free sub used. It's very important. Without it, it's like trying to build a house with no foundations - it just keeps falling down...

EFT is awesome you should try it.
You have quite a few options to choose from after you finish the amount of days you want to do. I heard Shannon recommended someone to stop using asc and do eprha, since the internal beliefs and fears were holding back the programs potential effect.
I might not be the best person in recommending what to use since this is only my second sub, but to my understanding AM6 helps a great deal. If the price is an obstacle, EPRHA does help with healing the past and releasing fear, guilt and shame and is great at doing so.

If you were bullied like I was, then I think it could be a good choice, plus it's free. There's not many guys using it, but you can check on women's forums and see their progress, after all it works for both, men and women.

In my opinion, this is the perfect program for building a good base from first use. Confidence is a bit misunderstood by many, so people choose ASC as a first sub (mostly guys, because all you hear is "you just lack confidence" from people and so confidence must be the magic key although there's so much more), even if there's so much emotional trauma in the past, fear that takes the most of you and guilt/shame that keeps you a prisoner in trying to please people.

I was bullied a lot in school and this pushed me to be anti-social, I was always on my own and didn't fit in with people. Thank's for the support I'll try EPRHA on Monday and make a new journal entry for that.

^^^ well said. I can see in how you post that the sub is having a positive effect on you. You seem much more emotionally stable and at ease with yourself

Edit, second post up...

Enjoy the journey with EPRHA, the effects should be quite fast to show.

I still can't get over how much it has changed me over such a short period. I do sometimes find it quite difficult to observe myself and the progress. After all I've felt lost for a while, trying to find a magic key only to find that the thing I found doesn't work, feeling like an another piece of hope has been lost. I guess not giving up and keeping up hope has brought me here. Indigo Mind Labs is the most important tool on my self growth tool belt.

On to day 13:

So today had some variety, morning seemed to go really great. I actually got stung by a wasp, I remember when I used to see a wasp or a bee I would just try and go away from it. This time however, after it stung me I was like "Where is it??? I'm going to kill it!". Literally no fear of getting stung again. I used to be so afraid of anything that could cause pain on me, now however... blah.

Later on though, I started feeling a bit insecure. I notice that when I'm in my head for too long, I just can't respond to sudden challenges from people or if someone makes a teasing joke with enough confidence.
To finish off, I'm no longer working there.

For some period I won't be able to test my progress in social circumstances as much. I also decided that I don't ever want to get a job again. I don't think AM is that good of a choice for me at the moment. BASE or BAMM are my best options if I want to get some financial freedom without getting a job and I have enough money just for BASE if the price is going to be what I expect.

A quick suggestion for people that use any subs. To get the best results, be dead honest with yourself. You don't have to post all of these things here, but be honest. Don't let the mask you've had on or your big ego make you think that you have more when you don't or vice versa.
For example I used to hide my misunderstanding of women behind an attitude that was a bit cocky and demeaning towards women, which also helped me push them away and keep me safe from any rejection (if I reject them first). Now I realize that I enjoy women, I just don't know how to act around them.

EDIT: I haven't been socializing too much in the past few days, I like reflecting on the new insights and that keeps me in my head more often than not.

(07-18-2014, 09:54 AM)Natious Wrote: [ -> ]On to day 13:

So today had some variety, morning seemed to go really great. I actually got stung by a wasp, I remember when I used to see a wasp or a bee I would just try and go away from it. This time however, after it stung me I was like "Where is it??? I'm going to kill it!". Literally no fear of getting stung again. I used to be so afraid of anything that could cause pain on me, now however... blah.

Later on though, I started feeling a bit insecure. I notice that when I'm in my head for too long, I just can't respond to sudden challenges from people or if someone makes a teasing joke with enough confidence.
To finish off, I'm no longer working there.

For some period I won't be able to test my progress in social circumstances as much. I also decided that I don't ever want to get a job again. I don't think AM is that good of a choice for me at the moment. BASE or BAMM are my best options if I want to get some financial freedom without getting a job and I have enough money just for BASE if the price is going to be what I expect.

A quick suggestion for people that use any subs. To get the best results, be dead honest with yourself. You don't have to post all of these things here, but be honest. Don't let the mask you've had on or your big ego make you think that you have more when you don't or vice versa.
For example I used to hide my misunderstanding of women behind an attitude that was a bit cocky and demeaning towards women, which also helped me push them away and keep me safe from any rejection (if I reject them first). Now I realize that I enjoy women, I just don't know how to act around them.

EDIT: I haven't been socializing too much in the past few days, I like reflecting on the new insights and that keeps me in my head more often than not.

Man you sound just like me. I think we must be related lol. I have a very bad fear of wasps and I am scared of them. After reading your entire thread I am definitely going with EPRHA. I tried to socialise with strangers but when I try to nothing comes out and I have a fear of approaching anybody. Keep up the good work I look forward reading more.

Over the time I've noticed that we all have so much in common with each other on this forum. It's like the same kind of people are attracted to this side of self improvement, the people that still believe Matrix is an awesome movie!

Shannon's subs in a few years time: