Subliminal Talk

Resistance is simple. You're view of your world is one way (let's say, you believe you're depressed) and then, the sub starts telling you it's ACTUALLY another way (no, you are actually happy).

What do you do when someone tells you something you know isn't true?

"No I'm not! Look, here's the reasons and examples why..." etc and so forth.

It takes time for the mind to accept a new way of thinking, it's called homeostasis. Your body tries to keep things consistent: body temperature, heart beat, even beliefs. Start changing those (imagine getting thrown into an ice-cold pool on a warm, but not too hot, day) and you freak out. THAT is resistance, and it takes many forms. Anger, resentment, bitterness, anything negative, really. But even self-sabotage. When I first started subs, I would forget to set them, unplug them in my sleep, turn off the speakers, all kinds of things to keep the suggestions out. I still, to this day, have nights where I wake up trying to get away from the noise by covering my head with a pillow or whatnot. But yes, tapping helps immensely.

(07-14-2014, 06:10 AM)AlphaMind Wrote: [ -> ]Up for that post above. This is the very first time I've heard that subliminal can be resisted.

In dictionary it self subliminal means beyond the threshold and subliminal audio is where the suggestions only aiming at the subconscious mind.

We all know that the subconscious is absolutely literal. It receive every programming and applying it to our thinking structure.

Beside Shannon's way of reinforcing the idea of resistant and making the "resistant by passer" doesn't it makes the user conscious about it?

Indirectly it can create mental block.

*Please more enlightenment XD

The subconscious is always executing the "operating system", which is the currently dominant set of instructions/beliefs/experiences. If something you are exposed to contradicts these, resistance is possible. Depending on the personality type, it may range from not even noticeable to overwhelmingly obvious.

Resistance is not triggered by mentioning resistance in the script, because I don't do that. It's almost always triggered by fear. Usually fear of loss of self control in some capacity, or fear of something that must be faced if the script is successfully installed as dominant programming.

For instance, if you run a program with a script that tells you to organize your cluttered house, and your subconscious programming associates clutter with your beloved but deceased mother, it might resist the program script because it considers that clutter a way of having her around still, even after she's died.

If you have the belief that having sex will result in some horrible fate, then a program telling you to go get laid is going to be conflicting with that belief and triggering that fear, and the result will be resistance while the fear based programming is dominant.

And so forth.

My approach to bypassing resistance is to avoid triggering it in the first place whenever and wherever that is possible. Thus the naturalizer, and SlipStream, and some of the code in the new multiplexed self optimizing scripting, and the internal and external ramrods, and the way I word my statements, etc.

Where it is present, I approach the issue by trying to dissolve the fear and get the person to overcome and outgrow it, or project themselves past it, or manifest themselves as already having dealt with it, or a variety of other methods.

Sme personality types still resist, but the MPME/MSOS is very good at getting further than ever before concerning resistance. I have seen "good girls" do some really shocking things in public that they were astounded by and could not believe they were doing, during experiments they were participating in concerning the MPME/MSOS. I am learning how to bypass resistance, but it's a process, and I have some left to go yet.

That might be thing why I didn't get results with AM 5.0. I live myself in the environment where I don't want to get order around and I have fear of losing control of everything that I planned.

In the past, I've run your AM 5.0. Pirated version though (sorry).

Now I understand why OAA even though it's 4G but give results because of OGSF programming inside. Indeed, I've enlightened.

I'm saving my money for AM 6.0 now. One more, I don't need to buy AM 5.0 right? Because I didn't get results.

If you pirated it, that triggered the AP code. To disable it, you need to pay for the program(s) in question.

(07-14-2014, 10:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you pirated it, that triggered the AP code. To disable it, you need to pay for the program(s) in question.

Even if I didn't get the benefits and/or listen to it?

Did you pirate it? What do you suppose triggers antipiracy code? It's not getting the intended result. It's pirating the program. Apologizing for pirating a $298 program does not balance the equation. Undoing the piracy balances the equation.

(07-14-2014, 11:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Did you pirate it? What do you suppose triggers antipiracy code? It's not getting the intended result. It's pirating the program. Apologizing for pirating a $298 program does not balance the equation. Undoing the piracy balances the equation.

Quote:I am very generous in allowing you to benefit from the program even if it's pirated. I am also very generous in not expecting you to pay for it if you did not benefit.

Does it?

(07-14-2014, 05:42 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Resistance is simple. You're view of your world is one way (let's say, you believe you're depressed) and then, the sub starts telling you it's ACTUALLY another way (no, you are actually happy).

What do you do when someone tells you something you know isn't true?

"No I'm not! Look, here's the reasons and examples why..." etc and so forth.

It takes time for the mind to accept a new way of thinking, it's called homeostasis. Your body tries to keep things consistent: body temperature, heart beat, even beliefs. Start changing those (imagine getting thrown into an ice-cold pool on a warm, but not too hot, day) and you freak out. THAT is resistance, and it takes many forms. Anger, resentment, bitterness, anything negative, really. But even self-sabotage. When I first started subs, I would forget to set them, unplug them in my sleep, turn off the speakers, all kinds of things to keep the suggestions out. I still, to this day, have nights where I wake up trying to get away from the noise by covering my head with a pillow or whatnot. But yes, tapping helps immensely.

So pretty much what I thought, got some more confidence in identifying it now. thanks

(07-14-2014, 09:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Resistance is not triggered by mentioning resistance in the script, because I don't do that. It's almost always triggered by fear. Usually fear of loss of self control in some capacity, or fear of something that must be faced if the script is successfully installed as dominant programming.

So that's how EPRHA helps with future sub resistance?

(07-14-2014, 09:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you have the belief that having sex will result in some horrible fate, then a program telling you to go get laid is going to be conflicting with that belief and triggering that fear, and the result will be resistance while the fear based programming is dominant.

So if I was taught that I will go to hell if I get laid before getting married my chances are quite bad for the moment :/

(07-14-2014, 09:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]My approach to bypassing resistance is to avoid triggering it in the first place whenever and wherever that is possible. Thus the naturalizer, and SlipStream, and some of the code in the new multiplexed self optimizing scripting, and the internal and external ramrods, and the way I word my statements, etc.

Where it is present, I approach the issue by trying to dissolve the fear and get the person to overcome and outgrow it, or project themselves past it, or manifest themselves as already having dealt with it, or a variety of other methods.

Sme personality types still resist, but the MPME/MSOS is very good at getting further than ever before concerning resistance. I have seen "good girls" do some really shocking things in public that they were astounded by and could not believe they were doing, during experiments they were participating in concerning the MPME/MSOS. I am learning how to bypass resistance, but it's a process, and I have some left to go yet.

That Magnus engine seems scary on some levels, imagine the potential misuse if people start making their own programs if it ever gets out. Imagine how easy it would be to sell things if you add a power sub that doesn't take long to implement itself. Say they are interested in the product on some level, then the resistance will be even lower. Or being a salesman with hidden speakers in your pockets, going from door to door.

My bad, got off my point. I was more curious about something in AM sub. I nearly have the money for AM and I'm about to purchase a copy soon but I have had some misconception about EFT during the AM. Somewhere you said that it interrupts the effect of cornering you so you will start fighting your way out. On the other hand I've heard some people successfully use it and say that they have better results with it. Well I guess my question is that can you clarify?
And thanks for posting Shannon, I read that you are getting quite busy nowadays.

Day 10: Not much to report in today. Had this interesting thing in the morning when a bee flew around me real close and I didn't have any fear of it stinging me which I used to have since my grandparents had many bee families. Instead I was looking at it's cool hairy back and when the thought of that it might sting me popped into mind I automatically responded "So what, Bees look awesome, if it stings me its just being an asshole, that's all, I'm not interrupting it, it's not interrupting me." Which seemed as an odd response and I was baffled for a minute.
I was working outside and the weather cast said it's around 40'C (104F) in the shadows, the irony was though that there were now shadows and no wind!!! At such temperature it's hard to follow your thoughts and even understand what's going on, so it's hard to explain the rest of the day.

EDIT: After having seen what Shannon put in BASE, I'm starting to think whether to do that one first. I'm thinking of going back to school for a year to get my high school degree that I chose to drop in order to travel the world and since there will be AM7 out at some point if I understood correctly, it makes my decision harder. BASE would probably help me start a business on the side so I would have some sort of an income while passing the year. AM would help me become more of a man. I like that BASE has some useful things related to becoming more mature as well. Does it really come down to a coin flip?
Oh and Shannon, on the post on BASE, you have Ultra Motivation mentioned twice as 1. and 39. (If you ever read this )

(07-14-2014, 11:15 PM)AlphaMind Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-14-2014, 11:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Did you pirate it? What do you suppose triggers antipiracy code? It's not getting the intended result. It's pirating the program. Apologizing for pirating a $298 program does not balance the equation. Undoing the piracy balances the equation.

Quote:I am very generous in allowing you to benefit from the program even if it's pirated. I am also very generous in not expecting you to pay for it if you did not benefit.

Does it?

Your grammar does not make sense in regards to everything you quote, but I will clarify.

If you buy something, and it does not work, it is reasonable too get a refund.

If you steal something, and it does not work, does that change the fact that you stole it? Hardly. The debt still remains. And, worse, you now have no recourse for a refund because you committed a crime.

If you pirated AM5 and did not get any benefit from it - which I highly doubt, because using it properly and resisting the whole thing completely would put you in the one-in-a-million club - then I don't expect you to pay for it. But the AP code does. And that snippet of programming will remain active until you do.

Now theoretically, you might say, well if AM5 didn't affect me, then the AP code didn't either. But I would wager that the chance that you were unaffected is a lot lower than you would like to believe, in either case.

If I were you, I would make right your wrongs and move on.

Quote:That Magnus engine seems scary on some levels, imagine the potential misuse if people start making their own programs if it ever gets out. Imagine how easy it would be to sell things if you add a power sub that doesn't take long to implement itself. Say they are interested in the product on some level, then the resistance will be even lower. Or being a salesman with hidden speakers in your pockets, going from door to door.

People doing that would fail, even if they had the whole original script to examine and decipher. It is easy to fear power, but there is a reason why I don't share the details of my research with anyone. Not even my closest associates know how I do what I do. It will not get out, and it could not be used effectively if it did, because nobody knows the how and why behind what I do. And I am not about to start making programs that could do things like that. If I had that in mind, I would have kept releasing versions of the Ultimate Weapon, instead of stopping when they became ridiculously powerful.

Quote: My bad, got off my point. I was more curious about something in AM sub. I nearly have the money for AM and I'm about to purchase a copy soon but I have had some misconception about EFT during the AM. Somewhere you said that it interrupts the effect of cornering you so you will start fighting your way out. On the other hand I've heard some people successfully use it and say that they have better results with it. Well I guess my question is that can you clarify?
And thanks for posting Shannon, I read that you are getting quite busy nowadays.

EFT does not have a negative impact on the subliminals, as far as I can tell.

Quote:Oh and Shannon, on the post on BASE, you have Ultra Motivation mentioned twice as 1. and 39. (If you ever read this )

Thanks for pointing that out. It is common for preliminary lists to have duplication, it always gets sorted out as I go through line by line and do stripdown and rebuild. No worries.

(07-15-2014, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]People doing that would fail, even if they had the whole original script to examine and decipher. It is easy to fear power, but there is a reason why I don't share the details of my research with anyone. Not even my closest associates know how I do what I do. It will not get out, and it could not be used effectively if it did, because nobody knows the how and why behind what I do. And I am not about to start making programs that could do things like that. If I had that in mind, I would have kept releasing versions of the Ultimate Weapon

Good to hear, you create your programs to build not to destroy.

About BASE:
No problem, is overcoming procrastination in there as well? I can see how it could help the program. I think I will use BASE as my first sub instead of AM then. That can help other with a little bit of feedback and me with, well... the obvious.
I'm guessing this program will be a beast coupled with fastlane. Can't wait.

About copyright: maybe making a sticky about it would help with all the confused torrent users that don't know why they didn't succeed with torrented subs. Or if there is then I apologize, I didn't seem to find it

Day 11: The effects that I've had have become stronger and more natural. In addition I feel so completely indifferent that I can say no to quite a few things now, no guild no shame. My emotional energy is almost untouched during the day, I just don't react to things like a childish half woman anymore. I kind of ignore when someone tells me something and not only with silence.

There are some things that I am not used to handling though, like 3 people today at work told me to go help someone and carry their stuff instead and I said no, not even explaining why, but the reality is that I don't want to help someone because I'm forced to, but because I want to and that took away my want to help at all. Didn't feel ashamed or anything, even if one asked me are you not ashamed? I was just like naah. then she was like we are tired. I was like We're all tired and ignored the rest of her bs.
She's one of those people who try to look good in front of the boss, working as fast as possible and when he leaves, sits down smokes all the time and doesn't move shit.

I have started feeling like I value myself higher, it's not like that crazy love yourself stuff, it's rather that I'm valuable and if you try to make me think otherwise you can go f yourself or I just ignore you.

It's interesting that I've had some similar results as people have with AM6, I do feel more like an Alpha as I've ever felt before, there are still a lot of things to improve on, but what I've accomplished in that short period is unbelievable.

A bit unsure about the Naturalizer, makes it feel too natural it's like I have to observe a bit to see if I feel any different or not.

I am loving the effects of this sub, honestly!!
Shannon if you ever visit my thread again, you can take my thanks with you.

Natious what about the Slipstream technology? Why would you feel resistance when slipstream can bypass it more than naturalizer?

What I meant is that the naturalizer makes you feel like it's the way that you've always been. You have to look back to see the difference in your behavior. I do notice it though, just sometimes it's hard to believe that I haven't been like this all the time.

I haven't had any resistance to this sub though, feels like progress is natural.