(01-03-2011, 07:19 PM)spiralout1988 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes I was wondering the same thing. This program sounds absolutely incredible!
EDIT: Shannon, I do have a question about something. Since you are more active in the forum I hope it won't be a problem.
What seems the most intrigueing to me is the Sexual escalation/Confidence/Dominance Eye Seduction and Carpe Diem.. is either of these touched on in the 2010 version of Women magnet??
Also, does the 2010 alpha male touch on Leadership and Initiative at all??
WM 2010 touches on sexual escalation in a way that makes it a by product of something else, so it never comes out as being a direct effort. The rest, it does not deal with.
2010 alpha does deal with leadership and initiative, but not directly, as the 2011 set does. 2010 creates these through the by product of other changes; 2011 does both indirect and direct inception for these two.
(01-03-2011, 07:22 PM)Solont Wrote: [ -> ] (01-03-2011, 05:50 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The differences are:
It's been upgraded to a new build/design process (that is, this is going to be the very first 4th Generation subliminal I release, which basically means I take everything I have learned since I started releasing 3rd Gen in 2008 and pack it in here); it is therefore highly optimized over 2010. It's also going to deal with the following areas that 2010 did not, ala your suggestions:
- Winner's Mindset
- Motivation
- Charisma
- Procrastination
- Passion
- Ambition
- Initiative
- Persistence
- Organization
- Assertiveness (enhancing what was already there)
- Optimism
- Extroversion
- Courage
- Leadership
- Eye Seduction
- Sexual escalation/Confidence/Dominance
- Sexy Voice
- Carpe Diem
- Better Sex Life
Regarding #17 "Sexy Voice". Is that just something to make you speak in a sexier tone around women or is it something involving a physical change like the Develop a More Masculine Voice sub?
Whenever you encounter a woman you find attractivem you'll naturally begin speaking with subtle differences which will make your voice convey that you are a sexy, sensual, desirable man, and it will help to arouse her when she is around you.
Thanks for that information Shannon! I'll do WM after the 2010 alpha male and then grab 2012 if it's around in the fall next year.
Ah I was afraid u were going to say that
I feel like I am finally coming into my own
and don't know if I could go back to those earlier stages
will the 2011 stages 1 and 2
Have stuff that will send me back to hot headness and introversion?
If so how bad would it be to just start at stage three of the new one?
I really got to think this decision over-Im tempted th just start over and do this new super alpha but I can't afford to not be at the top of my game in my life right now
socially, sexually, and workwise+that means six more months to sex magnet instead of three haha
anyway thanks for making such an awesome sounding new alpha-ur gift has become a weighty decision for me though
(01-03-2011, 08:53 PM)RainbowAbyss Wrote: [ -> ]Ah I was afraid u were going to say that
I feel like I am finally coming into my own
and don't know if I could go back to those earlier stages
will the 2011 stages 1 and 2
Have stuff that will send me back to hot headness and introversion?
If so how bad would it be to just start at stage three of the new one?
I really got to think this decision over-Im tempted th just start over and do this new super alpha but I can't afford to not be at the top of my game in my life right now
socially, sexually, and workwise+that means six more months to sex magnet instead of three haha
anyway thanks for making such an awesome sounding new alpha-ur gift has become a weighty decision for me though
Well there's nothing forcing you to upgrade.
2010 was the best I could make when I made it, and it's better than the 2009 set, which was the best I could make when I made it, which was better than the 2008 set, which was... you get the idea.
But, in your shoes, I would probably finish what you're doing, then do sex magnet, then do 2011 or 2012, whichever it is by then. Mainly because you're in the middle of a 6 month program. Might as well get your money's worth and finish what you started, right?
In the end, it's up to you. I certainly won't get upset if you want to buy the new one. lol
Hi Everyone. Just a little constructive criticism of the 2011 alpha. :-) I think the danger of the 2011 alpha man may become overly-confident, supercompetitive, and possibly a jerk. Nobody will ever be good enough because this person will likely view themselves as extremely high status, unreachable. This maybe good for picking up hot women, but when actually in a relationship, it may cause problems. Also, nobody will be able to do things as perfect as you would like them to, specifically coworkers and your girlfriend or wife, thus damaging relationships. My experience is that people make mistakes and nobody is perfect, but if you are too perfect, even other people's small mistakes may set you off.
I think those attributes individually are good attributes but in combination together and with the attributes of 2010 alpha, it might give a person too much aggression. But, then again, I'm in favor of a humble alpha. I figure a humble alpha is a more balanced alpha. Hopefully, there is something that will keep the above in check. Maybe forgiveness of others, a zen attitude.
Based on people's review of 2010 Alpha, it seemed like a good program (with the polish at the end)that provided a good fundamental core and appeared to be balanced. I was thinking that for the new 2011, the 2010 belief concepts would be the same (maybe a little extra) with new techniques and more effective updated scripts included. So, its more like a good tweak rather than a whole new rebuild. A rebuild, as with software, would have to be tested, versus making what works better.
Shannon, maybe you could put the above belief concepts into another set where people who are using the 2010 won't have to jump off of that and start all over. They can just continue the 2010 and the above attributes can be put into another 2-3 stage set. Or, some people may like the 2010 with updated tweaks and may want to branch off into different areas with other sub sets. Just a thought.
Also, I'm wondering whether people will have to deal with a lot more resistance issues with all that stuff packed in. A lot of change in such a short amount of time seems to bear some cost. Some people may not mind toughing it out, but I think some people do not mind taking their time and letting things cook slowly. It may come out tasting better in the end. People are such in a hurry. I figure my change will take at least a year with the alpha and woman magnet, plus another year with all the stuff Shannon has. I think that is a good pace for change.
Anyway, maybe you already were thinking about the above already Shannon. Also, I'm new here and hopefully this was not too much for a newbie.
(01-03-2011, 11:00 PM)jamboree Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Everyone. Just a little constructive criticism of the 2011 alpha. :-) I think the danger of the 2011 alpha man may become overly-confident, supercompetitive, and possibly a jerk. Nobody will ever be good enough because this person will likely view themselves as extremely high status, unreachable. This maybe good for picking up hot women, but when actually in a relationship, it may cause problems. Also, nobody will be able to do things as perfect as you would like them to, specifically coworkers and your girlfriend or wife, thus damaging relationships. My experience is that people make mistakes and nobody is perfect, but if you are too perfect, even other people's small mistakes may set you off.
I think those attributes individually are good attributes but in combination together and with the attributes of 2010 alpha, it might give a person too much aggression. But, then again, I'm in favor of a humble alpha. I figure a humble alpha is a more balanced alpha. Hopefully, there is something that will keep the above in check. Maybe forgiveness of others, a zen attitude.
Based on people's review of 2010 Alpha, it seemed like a good program (with the polish at the end)that provided a good fundamental core and appeared to be balanced. I was thinking that for the new 2011, the 2010 belief concepts would be the same (maybe a little extra) with new techniques and more effective updated scripts included. So, its more like a good tweak rather than a whole new rebuild. A rebuild, as with software, would have to be tested, versus making what works better.
Shannon, maybe you could put the above belief concepts into another set where people who are using the 2010 won't have to jump off of that and start all over. They can just continue the 2010 and the above attributes can be put into another 2-3 stage set. Or, some people may like the 2010 with updated tweaks and may want to branch off into different areas with other sub sets. Just a thought.
Also, I'm wondering whether people will have to deal with a lot more resistance issues with all that stuff packed in. A lot of change in such a short amount of time seems to bear some cost. Some people may not mind toughing it out, but I think some people do not mind taking their time and letting things cook slowly. It may come out tasting better in the end. People are such in a hurry. I figure my change will take at least a year with the alpha and woman magnet, plus another year with all the stuff Shannon has. I think that is a good pace for change.
Anyway, maybe you already were thinking about the above already Shannon. Also, I'm new here and hopefully this was not too much for a newbie.
Well thought out concerns, my friend. But I have a couple of secrets for you.
1. The program is being built, and as I build it, I may find things that I decide to remove or restructure. Already removed six points from the original list, and I am not entirely sure I like or will keep all of the above. However, until I see how the stage scripts balance, I won't know. But this is subject to change, as the focus is indeed on alpha, and not making all of those core attributes. I'm trying to take the suggestions of my customers, and balance them with what the program is designed to do at it's core.
2. I'm already on all of your concerns. This program is my flagship, and I want it to be done right. You don't have to worry; I am a perfectionist.
Depending upon release I may do 2011 as right now I'm only 1 1/2 weeks into 10
Hopefully it will be out soon!
It shouldn't be too long. at the current rate I am working, it should be ready in between 8 and 16 days. But I think I am going to shorten the list of additions before it goes into production, because the goal focus needs to be more pure.
About AM 2011 turning one into an unreachable alpha... unlikely. I once thought the early stages of AM would turn me into a jerk but that never came to pass. I was irritable but I kept my irritability in check.
So Shannon when you get things all balanced out (Gold release), please compile the list of things that are addressed (Alpha Male 2011: what's included). The list above seems very thorough and I know you probably cut a few features since that last post.
When will the sex magnet be finished?I'm planning to use that one.
The 2011 version of the alpha set looks great.The additions are great.
I'm already looking forward to that one.The list of changes once you
are finished will be great.
What are the differences between the 3rd and the 4th generation?
Quote:Winner's Mindset
Motivation
Charisma
Procrastination
Passion
Ambition
Initiative
Persistence
Organization
Assertiveness (enhancing what was already there)
Optimism
Extroversion
Courage
Leadership
Eye Seduction
Sexual escalation/Confidence/Dominance
Sexy Voice
Carpe Diem
Better Sex Life
Just reading this list makes me go: "YES!, YES!, YES!". Seriously, it sounds great.
Personally I think some of the things in the list like procrastination, Motivation and Ambition where covered really, really well in 2009, but some of the others like Charisma, Sexual Escalation, Sexy voice, etc weren't directly covered - and I think the set could really benefit from those additions. I appreciate the distinction between
core alpha and
surface alpha. I understand, it's crucially important to get the basic, deep foundation in place before the glitzy set of outward manifestations of alpha are put in place, but if there is room for both, without compromise, in one set, I'm all for it.
Sexual escalation and projecting direct interest has always been a sticking point for me, it would be great if that was covered. I'm lucky that Women Magnet has got me displaying a super sexy persona and projecting interest passively, but I'm well aware that I need to be more open and direct with showing sexual interest. I'm working on it without the use of subs at the moment. If there isn't room for it in Alpha 2011 though, I'd definitely take it as a separate, stand-alone sub.
Maybe I'm just being selfish because I've already been through Alpha and got the core nailed down in place, but these new add ons are making me very excited. I planned on going through the new alpha set when it came out anyway, but now I can't wait. Looks like it should be coming out right about the time I'm due to finish Women Magnet too
.
The 2009 Alpha Male was
core change, and so should any Alpha sub be, but boy is that list of
surface alpha, add ons, making my mouth water.
(01-04-2011, 11:13 AM)WildFlower Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Winner's Mindset
Motivation
Charisma
Procrastination
Passion
Ambition
Initiative
Persistence
Organization
Assertiveness (enhancing what was already there)
Optimism
Extroversion
Courage
Leadership
Eye Seduction
Sexual escalation/Confidence/Dominance
Sexy Voice
Carpe Diem
Better Sex Life
Just reading this list makes me go: "YES!, YES!, YES!". Seriously, it sounds great.
Personally I think some of the things in the list like procrastination, Motivation and Ambition where covered really, really well in 2009, but some of the others like Charisma, Sexual Escalation, Sexy voice, etc weren't directly covered - and I think the set could really benefit from those additions. I appreciate the distinction between core alpha and surface alpha. I understand, it's crucially important to get the basic, deep foundation in place before the glitzy set of outward manifestations of alpha are put in place, but if there is room for both, without compromise, in one set, I'm all for it.
Sexual escalation and projecting direct interest has always been a sticking point for me, it would be great if that was covered. I'm lucky that Women Magnet has got me displaying a super sexy persona and projecting interest passively, but I'm well aware that I need to be more open and direct with showing sexual interest. I'm working on it without the use of subs at the moment. If there isn't room for it in Alpha 2011 though, I'd definitely take it as a separate, stand-alone sub.
Maybe I'm just being selfish because I've already been through Alpha and got the core nailed down in place, but these new add ons are making me very excited. I planned on going through the new alpha set when it came out anyway, but now I can't wait. Looks like it should be coming out right about the time I'm due to finish Women Magnet too .
The 2009 Alpha Male was core change, and so should any Alpha sub be, but boy is that list of surface alpha, add ons, making my mouth water.
I came up with the sexual escalation from reading one of your posts you made a few months back, you were mentioning how you would like it included in a future set and Shannon's reply was that you probably wouldn't need it after finishing the 09 Alpha. It really looks like you do need it after all, huh?
IMO, I think some of the sexual things, like eye seduction, sexual confidence/escalation/and dominance are important for an Alpha male to have, especially considering the program itself mentions working on making a person sexy but from what WildFlower went through, didn't seem to be a whole lot?
Honesty and openness are important as well, so is gratitude but I don't think you added it to the list? And just from my experience thus far, Carpe Diem does seem to compliment Alpha well. If you decide to include that, I think it would be a great addition. Extroversion isn't necessarily an important characteristic for an Alpha but thought it'd be fun to have in the mix.
I would think a sexier alpha is more introverted anyways. Thats how most are in the movies.
EDIT: I would be so grateful of you,Shannon, if you made a seperate subliminal that dealt with Sexual escalation/Confidence/Dominance directly. I believe Wildflower made a suggestion to this. and this has been a sticking point of mine. This has plagued me my whole life.