(10-12-2013, 03:12 AM)LionMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, that is so interesting.
It made me more understanding of many of the women I've been intimate with and the ones I've had longer interactions with!
Is there anywhere I could get more knowledge about this subject?
Until I write the book on it - probably not. These are all my personal research discoveries.
Roy, did you ever TELL her you were a virgin? It sounds like you didn't. If she doesn't know, she's going to assume you know more than you do or have more experience than you do, and judge you negatively. As it appears she did with the "sex like a 16 year old virgin" comment.
How do you get her wet and how do you check? Getting her wet requires that you do what turns her on. Ben covered that pretty well. Checking is easily done by... asking, touching, or giving her oral sex.
One of the best ways in existence to get a woman ready for penetrative vaginal sex is to give her oral sex. It also serves to give her however many orgasms before you have penetrative sex with her, which makes it much easier to relax and enjoy yourself because there's not so much pressure on performance after she's come a time or 12. Get good at giving her oral and you'll have the ladies breaking down your door.
I told you I pulled out all the stops on SM3.
(10-12-2013, 08:49 AM)Roy Wrote: [ -> ]Stage 1 day 14
TLDR version:I'm not a virgin anymore.
It took 12 days for SM 3.0 to work.I had a lot of resistance and emotional stuff coming during the 8 and 9 days.It passed eventually.Wasn't fun.
Chatted with the women from the previous post during the week.Met her when going to dancing.It was interesting thing on the way there with a strong out of synce sort of dreamy feel to it combing with hyper awareness of my enviorment with all my senses extremlly clear and my brain being overclocked.There was sort of knowingness also about it.
I see her there and was very sexual with her there,holding her,kissing her,kissing her on the mouth shoulders and neck.Spent a lot of time with her during the evening and in the end we decided to go to her place to feed her cat than to mine.
We never got to my place.I took her clothes off.Got her to her bed and started foreplay and was a lot more slower and more intentional this time.
I contintued,tried experimenting with doing stuff during the foreplay,holding her,kissing her.I put on a condom.The light was on,I didn't really gave her a chance to close it this time.Practicing putting a condom at home helped.
I figured out how to get it in the hole thrusting,changing the rhytem and depth,not really knowing what I'm doing.It was very nice and interseting.
Than I thought after it,I have started SM 3.0,180 more days than BAMM.
She was making faces and closing her eyes and it was interesting to calibrate her responses to what I was doing.I didn't have my watch on so I don't know I long it took.She moved her pelvic area a lot.It was lots of fun.
I cuddled with her later,we talked,I asked her like Shannon wrote for what she enjoys and how I did.She asked if I want the truth of not.I said the truth and she said not bad.She mentioned she likes the condoms like she has that are extra thin and what I had less.Also to turn the woman on more and check she is wet first.Apparently she wasn't when I entered.
How do I get her wet and how do I check it?
In the morning we got up,talked,had breakfast.She hugged me a lot and was very close,stroked me a lot too.She walked with me to bus station and gave me a kiss goodbye.
She texted during the day.Met her in the evening,wet to a club,I wasn't in the same state and wasn't too focused.She was also somewhat more reserved,didn't responded as much to kisses.I was feeling bit weird and not well,felt her shutting down during the evening.
I suggested we get to my place,she said it would be a bad idea but she came.She s**t tested hard on the way on various stuff.Saying I have sex like 16 years old virgin and other stuff.She was closed when we got home.
Tried to test things a bit,she wasn't responsive,no kisses or anything so I backed that off.We went to sleep,I talked to her in bed,we cuddled a bit and I was very emotionally open with her.At that point she went back to responding to kissed.It was late,I was tired and she was too.She metioned that she was planning on dumping me.
In the morning we got up,she held me.I made har breakfast and we talked and it was nice.She even suggested to help to clean the dishes so I accepted.It fun let her do the dishes while kissing her neck,back and shoulders.We talked some more and she left.
The naturalizer is brilliant,I wouldn't have believed I do those things so fast
and like I did them.Very smooth confident and in control in lots of things I did.I feel different but I can't put my finger on it if I'm not searching for it.
I'm also catching myself talking deeper and more loudly.
wooohoooo roy!! amazing bro! keep banging (pun intended ), hahah!
any update Roy? still amazed how fast that happened
Maybe he's getting so much sex he doesn't have the energy to type!
that did cross my mind, hey roy, hope ur drowning in pussy bro lol
I am not kidding when I say that it is genuinely possible to end up with so much interest and sex from the ladies through this program that they distract you to death. Be careful, guys. That's part of why you need AM first.
(10-12-2013, 08:49 AM)Roy Wrote: [ -> ]Stage 1 day 14
TLDR version:I'm not a virgin anymore.
It took 12 days for SM 3.0 to work.I had a lot of resistance and emotional stuff coming during the 8 and 9 days.It passed eventually.Wasn't fun.
Chatted with the women from the previous post during the week.Met her when going to dancing.It was interesting thing on the way there with a strong out of synce sort of dreamy feel to it combing with hyper awareness of my enviorment with all my senses extremlly clear and my brain being overclocked.There was sort of knowingness also about it.
I see her there and was very sexual with her there,holding her,kissing her,kissing her on the mouth shoulders and neck.Spent a lot of time with her during the evening and in the end we decided to go to her place to feed her cat than to mine.
We never got to my place.I took her clothes off.Got her to her bed and started foreplay and was a lot more slower and more intentional this time.
I contintued,tried experimenting with doing stuff during the foreplay,holding her,kissing her.I put on a condom.The light was on,I didn't really gave her a chance to close it this time.Practicing putting a condom at home helped.
I figured out how to get it in the hole thrusting,changing the rhytem and depth,not really knowing what I'm doing.It was very nice and interseting.
Than I thought after it,I have started SM 3.0,180 more days than BAMM.
She was making faces and closing her eyes and it was interesting to calibrate her responses to what I was doing.I didn't have my watch on so I don't know I long it took.She moved her pelvic area a lot.It was lots of fun.
I cuddled with her later,we talked,I asked her like Shannon wrote for what she enjoys and how I did.She asked if I want the truth of not.I said the truth and she said not bad.She mentioned she likes the condoms like she has that are extra thin and what I had less.Also to turn the woman on more and check she is wet first.Apparently she wasn't when I entered.
How do I get her wet and how do I check it?
In the morning we got up,talked,had breakfast.She hugged me a lot and was very close,stroked me a lot too.She walked with me to bus station and gave me a kiss goodbye.
She texted during the day.Met her in the evening,wet to a club,I wasn't in the same state and wasn't too focused.She was also somewhat more reserved,didn't responded as much to kisses.I was feeling bit weird and not well,felt her shutting down during the evening.
I suggested we get to my place,she said it would be a bad idea but she came.She s**t tested hard on the way on various stuff.Saying I have sex like 16 years old virgin and other stuff.She was closed when we got home.
Tried to test things a bit,she wasn't responsive,no kisses or anything so I backed that off.We went to sleep,I talked to her in bed,we cuddled a bit and I was very emotionally open with her.At that point she went back to responding to kissed.It was late,I was tired and she was too.She metioned that she was planning on dumping me.
In the morning we got up,she held me.I made har breakfast and we talked and it was nice.She even suggested to help to clean the dishes so I accepted.It fun let her do the dishes while kissing her neck,back and shoulders.We talked some more and she left.
The naturalizer is brilliant,I wouldn't have believed I do those things so fast
and like I did them.Very smooth confident and in control in lots of things I did.I feel different but I can't put my finger on it if I'm not searching for it.
I'm also catching myself talking deeper and more loudly.
You havent finish this sub ?
Stage 6 day 4
Broke up with a FWB.More the WB less the friend part.I realized that just sex doesn't make me happy or anything.It was the overcoming the lack and limitation I was after.Not the sex.
It was easy to have sex her,not much talking,just saying her to come in a message on facebook,she did pretty much what I wanted,didn't want to be my GF or have any emotional involvement and I wasn't happy with that.
It seems I need to have feelings for a woman to have sex with her or I don't really want to.
Cool man, I see that as a great step forward. Going from a virgin to having sex, getting a fwb and then having these realizations. You got past the limitation and can grow from there.
I'd love to hear some of the other things you've noticed from the program. Haven't heard anything since stage 1.
roy did you have only this one lover or also others... you didnt write anything such a long time we all are interessted in some more specific experiences...
Waiting to hear from u Roy!
How come Roy didn't update this nor respond to any of you guys' posts? It shows he is a moderator here, so how come he isn't more active? I was just wondering.