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Gudday all,

I'm just a little concerned about the 6-stage upgrade of the Penis Enlarger. At the moment it costs $10, and when its 6 stage it will cost about $100 or more, correct me if I'm wrong.

So usually when you multiply the price of something by 10, the increase in quality has to multiply by 10 as well, right?

Is a 6 stage 4G much more powerful than a 1 stage 4G? Like, 5 times better (as it'd be 5 times the cost?). It would be great if you could keep the old 3G available and let customers choose according to price range. Maybe you could do a 5G single stage. I'd be quicker to spend $100 on a 5G single stage than I would be on a 4G 6 stage, personally.

At the cost of feeling self conscious talking about penis enlarger subs, lol, I thought I'd put it out there to see what people think.

Thanks
I think what matter is that it works for the majority of users, and it works fast, powerful, obvious, and as intended.. Shannon will figure out the best way to achieve this, whether it is in single stage or multi stage, 4G or 5G, the best design will be the one that get released to ensure as many people can benefit from the program as possible..
I'd definately rather a shorter version of PE in 5g than a 6 month investment in 4g regardless of the cost. I really want to try PE but by the time I'm finished with AM 5.0 in a few months it will probably be released, but I have WM 2.0 lined up after it, but I'd put it on hold for the new PE instead. I'm just a little reluctant in putting in a 6 month investment in a sub that seems too good to be true, and then see no results. (Excuse the scepticism) At least with a shorter version in 5G, if the sub doesn't work, at least you have saved time for another sub.
I don't Shannon would have any problem at all keeping a single stage for PE even when he builds the new one. At the same time I understand the concern considering theres only 2-3 subs I know of where the previous entry of the program is still for sale.

In my opinion Shannon wouldn't make something unless it had a certain amount of feasibility. The way I look at it if Shannon were to create 6 stage programs merely to garner more money we would catch onto it after a time.

Shannon knows best when it comes to this but I will state merely what I think in terms of the G's. I realize 5G works faster, integrates into you quicker, utilizes your mind's resources to the highest extent to the point where you cant use anything with it. That said I'm still of the thinking that you still have to put the leg work in listening wise ESPECIALLY with the upgrader/physical manifest.

I know the 6 stage PE seems daunting but you guys make it sound like you'd have to wait until the 4-5 months into the set to see any results at all. Your probably going to have to put in 2 months to even see a reasonable result and 3-4 months to get what you want if not more. No matter what G a theoretical single stage PE is put in your still gonna have to listen to it for a long period of time.

I find a lot of benefits to the 6 stage sets in terms of the fact that it gives Shannon a lot of room to cover all bases given 60-80 minutes of scripting room and the fact that he can build it up over time in escalation or in whatever direction he wants. Considering the breast enlargement is a 6 stage and the single stage does have its limitations in matters such as this I'd say its the right direction to go.
I understand the concerns, but the next version of PE is best created in either 4G or 5G. The choice was made a while back to go for 4G so it would not take forever to create and not cost an arm and a leg. Six stages is the path because it is going to be most efficient and effective in that format, sincdethe script has grown too complex for single stage. So you are looking at a six stage set in 4G, and it will probably come out at $199 a copy.

If you have concerns about the effectiveness, remember that our refund policy allows you to ask for a refund up to 180 days after you finish using the program according to the instructions. You have nothing to lose.

Many of the points Subeternal makes are what I would have stated, but choose not to, because he already addressed them.

3G is much less powerful than 4G, and 4G is much less powerful than 5G. But 4G is very efficient for Type C programming (physical altertions), and my calculations show that 5G only gives about a 10% improvement in growth over 4G for things like breast enlargement, penis enlargement, etc. The cost and restrictive usage would not be useful, even if I produced a single stage 5G program, because you would still need to use it 4-6 months and you could use nothing else with it. In 4G as a six stage set, the initial cost is a little higher, but the program will allow you to use other things of Type B at the same time, and give you ~90% of the results.

But the script has grown too complex to build as a single stage program anyway, so you're actually saving money in 4G because I would need to build it in six stages regardless of which generation it came out in.
But are you going to have the 3G remain available? Or will I have to buy it quickly now (before the price goes up 20x)?
(10-12-2012, 11:49 PM)brad1984mason Wrote: [ -> ]But are you going to have the 3G remain available? Or will I have to buy it quickly now (before the price goes up 20x)?

We are phasing out 3G to keep our product line consistent. It's confusing to people to have 3G and 4G and 5G and wondering what is what and why. When I get done upgrading, there will be 4G and there will be 5G, and mostly 4G. So get it now if you want it.
When will the new PE be released?
When it's ready, of course. Smile

I'm working on it, but I have a constant barrage of interruptions and several other things to do simultaneously. When I am able to devote fully to it, it should be finished in 2-3 days.
But what if it makes everyones penises too big and they need a crane to lift it?

Big Grin
I suppose that's wise. I was thinking about it today - if I was Shannon, I would quickly phase out the memory of there ever being a cheaper option, so no one would feel bad about buying the more expensive option. $200 is a fair price really, but I'm only annoyed about it because I know there was a (*much*) cheaper one. If I never knew about the 3G, I'd have no complaints.

But to get a bigger penis is a wonderful thing, and is worth $200 anyway. It makes the $10 one look trashy, just by the price tag, and now I don't want it. Its weird how that works.

I'm not going to buy either of them yet, but not because I don't like the price, but because I've already bought/downloaded so many subs that I'm queued up for a good year and a half, and there are others still on my wish list that take priority over a bigger penis. But for the record, I'm over it (the price increase, that is). Business is business, ya gotta do what ya gotta do. So delete the 3G PE Shannon, I won't hold it against you (sigh).

Brad
(10-13-2012, 07:16 PM)benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]But what if it makes everyones penises too big and they need a crane to lift it?

Big Grin

Then we should prepare our harem of women to be able to left it up! :p


Edit: my question is does size actually matter? there is too much contradiction on this subject and i heard somewhere that in ancient Greek large penises was actually laughed about.
(10-13-2012, 07:16 PM)benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]But what if it makes everyone's penises too big and they need a crane to lift it?

If it doesn't lift itself there's another sub available to help with that, lol

(10-14-2012, 03:15 AM)Yuri Wrote: [ -> ]Edit: my question is does size actually matter? there is too much contradiction on this subject and i heard somewhere that in ancient Greek large penises was actually laughed about.

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Well in Shakespeare's day big obese women with pale skin were in fashion and skinny women with a tan were paupers. Today pale obese women are out and skinny tanned women are in.

So to answer your question, I prefer modern opinion of whats hot and whats not
(10-14-2012, 05:04 AM)brad1984mason Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2012, 07:16 PM)benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]But what if it makes everyone's penises too big and they need a crane to lift it?

If it doesn't lift itself there's another sub available to help with that, lol

(10-14-2012, 03:15 AM)Yuri Wrote: [ -> ]Edit: my question is does size actually matter? there is too much contradiction on this subject and i heard somewhere that in ancient Greek large penises was actually laughed about.

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Well in Shakespeare's day big obese women with pale skin were in fashion and skinny women with a tan were paupers. Today pale obese women are out and skinny tanned women are in.

So to answer your question, I prefer modern opinion of whats hot and whats not

i'm talking about scientific evidence i threw that opinion because believe it or not ancient Greek's knew more about sex than what most of us know now.

in science from what research i had the reach to the vagina pleasure point is 4-5 cm (i cant recall all the correct wording's to this) and the regular penis sizes is about 5-6-7, so that makes my first statement in a way true, and that thickness matters more than length.

my opinion on this, and i repeat "my" opinion is that porn has a huge role in this "girls love huge cocks" and many guys relate their penises to their confidence in some way.

but then again as i mentioned there's various opinions on this subject and i'm not really sure which is the right one (or if there is a right one in the first place)
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