Subliminal Talk

(04-29-2024, 10:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]So what do you take from all that about the twins?

I have to say it really seemed my crush was subtly upset with her sister, or it was a distraction to keep her from talking to me but I've mostly focused on my crush cus she's my server.
 
It was certainly weird when my crush came and whined to her sister like that. The sister looked at me like "here we go again."

My crush hasn't reached out via text or anything and I haven't text her but the one time to give my number to her. If she likes me that much it seems like she would have text me by now.

I could be wrong about all this but just something about how my crush interrupting her sister seemed uncalled for because I barely get to talk to the Sister.

I feel like avoiding the restaurant for a while at least.

What this sound like to you?

Hi @Diablojack00

From your experience so far would you say that X4A-1511 requires a certain amount of time/usage to build up to full strength or is it more so that it’s at full strength from the very first usage but more so requires extended time spent with some individuals to show its full strength?

(04-30-2024, 12:54 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Diablojack00

From your experience so far would you say that X4A-1511 requires a certain amount of time/usage to build up to full strength or is it more so that it’s at full strength from the very first usage but more so requires extended time spent with some individuals to show its full strength?

@KingDavid93

It did seem to take time for me personally but once it gets going I've found that you can either execute or let it turn inward.

I'm still trying to find the sweet spot.

It doesn't take very much to execute. I'd say give a week or 2 of running x4a 1511 to get it fired up but if you notice a girl giving side eye or smiling toward you then just say Hi how's your day going?"

The Girls/Women will respond with a "Good how are you! With a smile.

After that keep saying Hey or nodding when they pass you and just talk to the girl same as without X4A-1511 but with the program the odds are very much in your favor.

I enjoy The program and can attest it works.

I know I focused on the server girls in this journal but it's only because I have never tried to get with one.

Shannon's advice in this thread is gold even platinum.

I'm looking forward to see x4a 1600 or 2000 in play when it comes out

(04-30-2024, 02:32 AM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-29-2024, 10:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]So what do you take from all that about the twins?

I have to say it really seemed my crush was subtly upset with her sister, or it was a distraction to keep her from talking to me but I've mostly focused on my crush cus she's my server.
 
It was certainly weird when my crush came and whined to her sister like that. The sister looked at me like "here we go again."

My crush hasn't reached out via text or anything and I haven't text her but the one time to give my number to her. If she likes me that much it seems like she would have text me by now.

I could be wrong about all this but just something about how my crush interrupting her sister seemed uncalled for because I barely get to talk to the Sister.

I feel like avoiding the restaurant for a while at least.

What this sound like to you?

I have only your interpretation of what happened to go on, and that means I'm only operating on one side of a three sided story without any of the context I usually would get from body language, eye language, vocal tonality and cadence, timing of various things, etc. which means a lot.

If what you're thinking is happening is happening, then I would just completely drop it and move on, because it's failed.  You did something wrong somewhere.  It may or may not help to avoid the restaurant for a while, I would have to have better awareness of the specifics of the situation, but you could do worse than to just drop it and move on regardless.  If she's interested enough she'll do something about it.  If not, she won't.

It sounds like if what you think is happening is actually happening, then one or both of them is potentially uncomfortable with how you did things.

But remember, I can only tell you what I think based on what you've said, which is limited information, and I may be misunderstanding something, as might you be.

If I was in your shoes and I was more than 50% sure that what you think is happening is actually happening, I would disappear for a period of time, enough to let them get to missing you if they (or one of them) likes you, and see what happens.  Maybe she'll contact you in the mean time, but some women are stuck in "he's got to do the work/chase/initiate", just like some guys are stuck in "men must do the work/chase/initiate".  So if you disappear for a while, and she doesn't contact you, then the key will be how they respond when you get back.

(04-30-2024, 05:25 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2024, 02:32 AM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]I have to say it really seemed my crush was subtly upset with her sister, or it was a distraction to keep her from talking to me but I've mostly focused on my crush cus she's my server.
 
It was certainly weird when my crush came and whined to her sister like that. The sister looked at me like "here we go again."

My crush hasn't reached out via text or anything and I haven't text her but the one time to give my number to her. If she likes me that much it seems like she would have text me by now.

I could be wrong about all this but just something about how my crush interrupting her sister seemed uncalled for because I barely get to talk to the Sister.

I feel like avoiding the restaurant for a while at least.

What this sound like to you?

I have only your interpretation of what happened to go on, and that means I'm only operating on one side of a three sided story without any of the context I usually would get from body language, eye language, vocal tonality and cadence, timing of various things, etc. which means a lot.

If what you're thinking is happening is happening, then I would just completely drop it and move on, because it's failed.  You did something wrong somewhere.  It may or may not help to avoid the restaurant for a while, I would have to have better awareness of the specifics of the situation, but you could do worse than to just drop it and move on regardless.  If she's interested enough she'll do something about it.  If not, she won't.

It sounds like if what you think is happening is actually happening, then one or both of them is potentially uncomfortable with how you did things.

But remember, I can only tell you what I think based on what you've said, which is limited information, and I may be misunderstanding something, as might you be.

If I was in your shoes and I was more than 50% sure that what you think is happening is actually happening, I would disappear for a period of time, enough to let them get to missing you if they (or one of them) likes you, and see what happens.  Maybe she'll contact you in the mean time, but some women are stuck in "he's got to do the work/chase/initiate", just like some guys are stuck in "men must do the work/chase/initiate".  So if you disappear for a while, and she doesn't contact you, then the key will be how they respond when you get back.

When the sister came to my table to talk that was the first time in probably 2 months she's done that and it's because I'd asked her to come talk to me.

I did eat at the restaurant yesterday and my crush was the only twin and she was my server and she was not feeling well at all. 

She said she was over it and she hadn't ate and I literally thought she was gonna pass out.

I just told her take time and eat.

My table had a view of the interstate and she stood there and started a conversation about the traffic and how crazy it is.

I asked several different times if she's okay. She always said yeah. Cus she looked really weak. 

After the traffic conversation she came back holding a bowl of chicken and said Hey Rocky you need anything? 

I saw she had food and I told her I'm good.

She said she's gonna take time to eat.

I asked if she felt better that she ate and she said a little bit.

I asked about her glasses and she told me what color she got etc. Even told me her dad's insurance covered them.

She did mention she and her twin went shopping and got groceries.

She rang me up but she was holding her stomach and I asked if she okay. She still said yeah.

yesterday I was on 2 loops of x4a 1511

I'm not sure if this effected my crush more or less but leaning toward more cus she was quietly looking at me. Just observing sorta like she was thirsty a bit.

It seemed like a normal interaction.

I edited this cus It was long winded.

(05-01-2024, 12:14 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2024, 05:25 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I have only your interpretation of what happened to go on, and that means I'm only operating on one side of a three sided story without any of the context I usually would get from body language, eye language, vocal tonality and cadence, timing of various things, etc. which means a lot.

If what you're thinking is happening is happening, then I would just completely drop it and move on, because it's failed.  You did something wrong somewhere.  It may or may not help to avoid the restaurant for a while, I would have to have better awareness of the specifics of the situation, but you could do worse than to just drop it and move on regardless.  If she's interested enough she'll do something about it.  If not, she won't.

It sounds like if what you think is happening is actually happening, then one or both of them is potentially uncomfortable with how you did things.

But remember, I can only tell you what I think based on what you've said, which is limited information, and I may be misunderstanding something, as might you be.

If I was in your shoes and I was more than 50% sure that what you think is happening is actually happening, I would disappear for a period of time, enough to let them get to missing you if they (or one of them) likes you, and see what happens.  Maybe she'll contact you in the mean time, but some women are stuck in "he's got to do the work/chase/initiate", just like some guys are stuck in "men must do the work/chase/initiate".  So if you disappear for a while, and she doesn't contact you, then the key will be how they respond when you get back.

When the sister came to my table to talk that was the first time in probably 2 months she's done that and it's because I'd asked her to come talk to me.

I did eat at the restaurant yesterday and my crush was the only twin and she was my server and she was not feeling well at all. 

She said she was over it and she hadn't ate and I literally thought she was gonna pass out.

I just told her take time and eat.

My table had a view of the interstate and she stood there and started a conversation about the traffic and how crazy it is.

I asked several different times if she's okay. She always said yeah. Cus she looked really weak. 

After the traffic conversation she came back holding a bowl of chicken and said Hey Rocky you need anything? 

I saw she had food and I told her I'm good.

She said she's gonna take time to eat.

I asked if she felt better that she ate and she said a little bit.

I asked about her glasses and she told me what color she got etc. Even told me her dad's insurance covered them.

She did mention she and her twin went shopping and got groceries.

She rang me up but she was holding her stomach and I asked if she okay. She still said yeah.

yesterday I was on 2 loops of x4a 1511

I'm not sure if this effected my crush more or less but leaning toward more cus she was quietly looking at me. Just observing sorta like she was thirsty a bit.

It seemed like a normal interaction.

I edited this cus It was long winded.

Okay so I met a new 20 yr old and we are going to hangout and see a movie soon. Possibly this week.

I intended to avoid the twins for a little while just in case I may have done something wrong in which I wasn't aware.

Friday My mom wanted to eat at the restaurant. Well, My crush doesn't work on Fridays so I took mom to eat.

My crushes twin was there and said Hey Rocky with low key excitement as she always does and told me her sister wasn't there.

I said Okay you be our server. She said Okay I'll be your server.

It was a normal interaction but I was on 2 loops of x4a 1511 and she seemed more focused and quieter than usual.

Another girl rang me up and my crushes sister walked up and said Hey Rocky do you need anything else?

I said No, but tell your sister I said Hey.

She said Okay I'll tell her.

2 loops drained me bad.

I do not recommend 2 loops.

I was just experimenting but 2 loops did draw in this one 19 yr old from work that jumped on my back to scare me ... she's never done that to me or anyone else that I know of. 

She's pretty responsive to just one loop but that's the biggest thing on 2 loops. 

It's too draining on 2 loops so I'm going back to recommended instructions.

I've decided that texting is not my thing and I'm not worrying with it because I am good enough socially especially with X4A-1511.

I can text but as far as texting game I have zero and that's okay. I have never liked texting and I thought I needed to be a texting guru just because my crush gave me her number.

I'll create an opportunity to ask my twin crush to do something and most likely she'll say yes or she's busy.

Either way it doesn't matter because x4a 1511 works and both twins are attracted to me. That part is obvious.

I seem to have really good success so far.

(05-05-2024, 09:19 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-01-2024, 12:14 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]When the sister came to my table to talk that was the first time in probably 2 months she's done that and it's because I'd asked her to come talk to me.

I did eat at the restaurant yesterday and my crush was the only twin and she was my server and she was not feeling well at all. 

She said she was over it and she hadn't ate and I literally thought she was gonna pass out.

I just told her take time and eat.

My table had a view of the interstate and she stood there and started a conversation about the traffic and how crazy it is.

I asked several different times if she's okay. She always said yeah. Cus she looked really weak. 

After the traffic conversation she came back holding a bowl of chicken and said Hey Rocky you need anything? 

I saw she had food and I told her I'm good.

She said she's gonna take time to eat.

I asked if she felt better that she ate and she said a little bit.

I asked about her glasses and she told me what color she got etc. Even told me her dad's insurance covered them.

She did mention she and her twin went shopping and got groceries.

She rang me up but she was holding her stomach and I asked if she okay. She still said yeah.

yesterday I was on 2 loops of x4a 1511

I'm not sure if this effected my crush more or less but leaning toward more cus she was quietly looking at me. Just observing sorta like she was thirsty a bit.

It seemed like a normal interaction.

I edited this cus It was long winded.

Okay so I met a new 20 yr old and we are going to hangout and see a movie soon. Possibly this week.

I intended to avoid the twins for a little while just in case I may have done something wrong in which I wasn't aware.

Friday My mom wanted to eat at the restaurant. Well, My crush doesn't work on Fridays so I took mom to eat.

My crushes twin was there and said Hey Rocky with low key excitement as she always does and told me her sister wasn't there.

I said Okay you be our server. She said Okay I'll be your server.

It was a normal interaction but I was on 2 loops of x4a 1511 and she seemed more focused and quieter than usual.

Another girl rang me up and my crushes sister walked up and said Hey Rocky do you need anything else?

I said No, but tell your sister I said Hey.

She said Okay I'll tell her.

2 loops drained me bad.

I do not recommend 2 loops.

I was just experimenting but 2 loops did draw in this one 19 yr old from work that jumped on my back to scare me ... she's never done that to me or anyone else that I know of. 

She's pretty responsive to just one loop but that's the biggest thing on 2 loops. 

It's too draining on 2 loops so I'm going back to recommended instructions.

I've decided that texting is not my thing and I'm not worrying with it because I am good enough socially especially with X4A-1511.

I can text but as far as texting game I have zero and that's okay. I have never liked texting and I thought I needed to be a texting guru just because my crush gave me her number.

I'll create an opportunity to ask my twin crush to do something and most likely she'll say yes or she's busy.

Either way it doesn't matter because x4a 1511 works and both twins are attracted to me. That part is obvious.

I seem to have really good success so far.

An update is in order because I have a movie date soon with my crush. 

Her twin sister told me be careful with her sis because she's Uber hot for me and don't break her heart.

So it seems promising. Extreme patience is needed with servers apparently but whatever happens with this I think I'll switch to Money Magnet unless it's gonna be updated to 6G soon but it seems like 6G might be far enough away that I can get Money Magnet in 5.11G.

You did it! More info on how this went down when you found out that your crush likes you back. Were they just hiding this from you or what? How did you get to a movie date?

And why do you want to switch to MM? I think you should consider going along for the ride for a bit and see how it plays out - unless you don't want a relationship with her.

Also, if 2 loops is kicking your ass, that means something in you doesn't want to cooperate. It's afraid of what it thinks might/knows will happen. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

(05-09-2024, 05:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You did it!  More info on how this went down when you found out that your crush likes you back.  Were they just hiding this from you or what?  How did you get to a movie date?

And why do you want to switch to MM?  I think you should consider going along for the ride for a bit and see how it plays out - unless you don't want a relationship with her.

Also, if 2 loops is kicking your ass, that means something in you doesn't want to cooperate.  It's afraid of what it thinks might/knows will happen.  That's not necessarily a bad thing.

I did x4a 1000 before 1511. 

I'll do the best I can to explain what happened.

My crush talks a lot. Like she talks then she bounces off. So it was hard to actually get a word in edge wise and I wasn't gonna call to her to ask her to hang out.

So I just took everything in that I could and learned as much as possible about her.

When I did 2 loops of x4a 1511 it seemed to kick my ass but I also was on antibiotics for some kinda sinus issue.

The morning I asked my crush to a movie I woke up and got ready to go to the restaurant for breakfast.

I have a rose bush by my porch and I got the idea to pick 2 roses. One for each twin.

So I walked in the restaurant and found my crush and gave her a rose. She said "Oh my God I love it, thank you!"

I asked where her sister was and she told me she is around somewhere.

She took the rose into the kitchen and the other girls were saying, "Awe you got a rose!"

I sat down and saw her sister and called her over and I gave a rose to her and she said, awe thank you, I love roses!

My crush and I interacted as normal and she was like skipping to the table and at one point she had brought the pitcher for a drink refill and she just sat the pitcher on the table and started talking.. about the weather cus it was storming really bad outside. She grabbed the pitcher handle and spun it around for a few seconds and then poured my drink.

She's just 21 and even she told me she's a kid at heart months ago.

Makes sense cus she's 21.

So she brought the bill and as I put on my jacket on I said so there's a movie coming out soon you wanna meet at the theater to see it?

She said she'd have to check her schedule but when is it?

I said It comes out on a day she is off and she said oh, okay. Let's do that.

Then she walked off into the kitchen to get my usual to go drink.

I walked toward the front desk and my crushes twin sister motioned for me to come over and she said "She's got the Uber hots for you, don't break her heart."

Up till that point I was only 90% sure the twins liked me.

So on 1 loop I was mostly internal. I executed, but it's like I was observing and thinking I see you checking me out and smiling but either you come to me or I'm not doing a damn thing. 

On 2 loops I freaking flirted with every woman and girl I saw at my part time job and my main job as a fitness trainer I had to watch what I said cus it has to be more professional.

That didn't stop the younger gym girls from turning everything I said into a sexual joke.

I could definitely date my crush. So I have always tried to focus on money but when x4a 1000 came out I bought it so I could get those girls that I might not be able to get.

Maybe it's my subconscious resisting the 2 loops cus I've got a strong push to start money magnet 5.11.

I'll stay on x4a 1511 as you advise. 

I will also stay on 2 loops and I hope it doesn't take long for it to break through whatever it's fighting.

(05-09-2024, 06:51 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2024, 05:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You did it!  More info on how this went down when you found out that your crush likes you back.  Were they just hiding this from you or what?  How did you get to a movie date?

And why do you want to switch to MM?  I think you should consider going along for the ride for a bit and see how it plays out - unless you don't want a relationship with her.

Also, if 2 loops is kicking your ass, that means something in you doesn't want to cooperate.  It's afraid of what it thinks might/knows will happen.  That's not necessarily a bad thing.

I did x4a 1000 before 1511. 

I'll do the best I can to explain what happened.

My crush talks a lot. Like she talks then she bounces off. So it was hard to actually get a word in edge wise and I wasn't gonna call to her to ask her to hang out.

So I just took everything in that I could and learned as much as possible about her.

When I did 2 loops of x4a 1511 it seemed to kick my ass but I also was on antibiotics for some kinda sinus issue.

The morning I asked my crush to a movie I woke up and got ready to go to the restaurant for breakfast.

I have a rose bush by my porch and I got the idea to pick 2 roses. One for each twin.

So I walked in the restaurant and found my crush and gave her a rose. She said "Oh my God I love it, thank you!"

I asked where her sister was and she told me she is around somewhere.

She took the rose into the kitchen and the other girls were saying, "Awe you got a rose!"

I sat down and saw her sister and called her over and I gave a rose to her and she said, awe thank you, I love roses!

My crush and I interacted as normal and she was like skipping to the table and at one point she had brought the pitcher for a drink refill and she just sat the pitcher on the table and started talking.. about the weather cus it was storming really bad outside. She grabbed the pitcher handle and spun it around for a few seconds and then poured my drink.

She's just 21 and even she told me she's a kid at heart months ago.

Makes sense cus she's 21.

So she brought the bill and as I put on my jacket on I said so there's a movie coming out soon you wanna meet at the theater to see it?

She said she'd have to check her schedule but when is it?

I said It comes out on a day she is off and she said oh, okay. Let's do that.

Then she walked off into the kitchen to get my usual to go drink.

I walked toward the front desk and my crushes twin sister motioned for me to come over and she said "She's got the Uber hots for you, don't break her heart."

Up till that point I was only 90% sure the twins liked me.

So on 1 loop I was mostly internal. I executed, but it's like I was observing and thinking I see you checking me out and smiling but either you come to me or I'm not doing a damn thing. 

On 2 loops I freaking flirted with every woman and girl I saw at my part time job and my main job as a fitness trainer I had to watch what I said cus it has to be more professional.

That didn't stop the younger gym girls from turning everything I said into a sexual joke.

I could definitely date my crush. So I have always tried to focus on money but when x4a 1000 came out I bought it so I could get those girls that I might not be able to get.

Maybe it's my subconscious resisting the 2 loops cus I've got a strong push to start money magnet 5.11.

I'll stay on x4a 1511 as you advise. 

I will also stay on 2 loops and I hope it doesn't take long for it to break through whatever it's fighting.

I'm not saying you have to stay on 2 loops.  I'm just saying that it kicking your ass isn't necessarily a bad thing, or a reason to stop.

I would suggest you not change anything from whatever amount got you this date with your crush until you have a stable relationship, or your relationship has run it's course or has matured to a significant degree.  Changing things at a time like this is a good way to screw things up.  You're potentially transitioning from one state to another regarding your relationship with her, which is already a change.  Don't risk screwing it up by adding unnecessary changes into the mix.  That's my thinking, at least.

(05-10-2024, 10:08 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2024, 06:51 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]I did x4a 1000 before 1511. 

I'll do the best I can to explain what happened.

My crush talks a lot. Like she talks then she bounces off. So it was hard to actually get a word in edge wise and I wasn't gonna call to her to ask her to hang out.

So I just took everything in that I could and learned as much as possible about her.

When I did 2 loops of x4a 1511 it seemed to kick my ass but I also was on antibiotics for some kinda sinus issue.

The morning I asked my crush to a movie I woke up and got ready to go to the restaurant for breakfast.

I have a rose bush by my porch and I got the idea to pick 2 roses. One for each twin.

So I walked in the restaurant and found my crush and gave her a rose. She said "Oh my God I love it, thank you!"

I asked where her sister was and she told me she is around somewhere.

She took the rose into the kitchen and the other girls were saying, "Awe you got a rose!"

I sat down and saw her sister and called her over and I gave a rose to her and she said, awe thank you, I love roses!

My crush and I interacted as normal and she was like skipping to the table and at one point she had brought the pitcher for a drink refill and she just sat the pitcher on the table and started talking.. about the weather cus it was storming really bad outside. She grabbed the pitcher handle and spun it around for a few seconds and then poured my drink.

She's just 21 and even she told me she's a kid at heart months ago.

Makes sense cus she's 21.

So she brought the bill and as I put on my jacket on I said so there's a movie coming out soon you wanna meet at the theater to see it?

She said she'd have to check her schedule but when is it?

I said It comes out on a day she is off and she said oh, okay. Let's do that.

Then she walked off into the kitchen to get my usual to go drink.

I walked toward the front desk and my crushes twin sister motioned for me to come over and she said "She's got the Uber hots for you, don't break her heart."

Up till that point I was only 90% sure the twins liked me.

So on 1 loop I was mostly internal. I executed, but it's like I was observing and thinking I see you checking me out and smiling but either you come to me or I'm not doing a damn thing. 

On 2 loops I freaking flirted with every woman and girl I saw at my part time job and my main job as a fitness trainer I had to watch what I said cus it has to be more professional.

That didn't stop the younger gym girls from turning everything I said into a sexual joke.

I could definitely date my crush. So I have always tried to focus on money but when x4a 1000 came out I bought it so I could get those girls that I might not be able to get.

Maybe it's my subconscious resisting the 2 loops cus I've got a strong push to start money magnet 5.11.

I'll stay on x4a 1511 as you advise. 

I will also stay on 2 loops and I hope it doesn't take long for it to break through whatever it's fighting.

I'm not saying you have to stay on 2 loops.  I'm just saying that it kicking your ass isn't necessarily a bad thing, or a reason to stop.

I would suggest you not change anything from whatever amount got you this date with your crush until you have a stable relationship, or your relationship has run it's course or has matured to a significant degree.  Changing things at a time like this is a good way to screw things up.  You're potentially transitioning from one state to another regarding your relationship with her, which is already a change.  Don't risk screwing it up by adding unnecessary changes into the mix.  That's my thinking, at least.

I understand and agree. I did the 2 hours then it was 3 day break. When I started back it was one hour.

I'm on a 3 day break now and will start back with 2 hours and try and take note on the difference it has on my crush.

The movie date is 2 weeks away so I've always felt that no contact and them not seeing me till the date is best.

But maybe it depends what type of person it is.

Being she's my server if I went the next 2 week to eat it may mess something up.

I see no reason I can't go in and eat as usual but I'm not sure

You have experience with servers so what do you suggest I do?

(05-10-2024, 02:38 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2024, 10:08 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you have to stay on 2 loops.  I'm just saying that it kicking your ass isn't necessarily a bad thing, or a reason to stop.

I would suggest you not change anything from whatever amount got you this date with your crush until you have a stable relationship, or your relationship has run it's course or has matured to a significant degree.  Changing things at a time like this is a good way to screw things up.  You're potentially transitioning from one state to another regarding your relationship with her, which is already a change.  Don't risk screwing it up by adding unnecessary changes into the mix.  That's my thinking, at least.

I understand and agree. I did the 2 hours then it was 3 day break. When I started back it was one hour.

I'm on a 3 day break now and will start back with 2 hours and try and take note on the difference it has on my crush.

The movie date is 2 weeks away so I've always felt that no contact and them not seeing me till the date is best.

But maybe it depends what type of person it is.

Being she's my server if I went the next 2 week to eat it may mess something up.

I see no reason I can't go in and eat as usual but I'm not sure

You have experience with servers so what do you suggest I do?

First, I would use 1 loop, and not change any variables until weeks or months past the determination of what happens with the relationship.

Second, I would never allow a date to wait that long before it happens.  I have never made a date for more than a couple days in advance.  The longer it waits, the longer she has time to think, the longer her fears and doubts have time to grow, etc.  I always try to go on a date (or get together with her instead of a date) the same day I ask, or the next day.  Making them wait is a bad idea for those reasons, and because it makes it more likely that she will shoot you down.

Third, you want to just disappear for two weeks before the date?  That's not a good idea at all in my opinion.  That will just make her think you've lost interest, and then her imagination will run wild and it'll blow up in your face. 

Fourth, it sounds like in spite of my input to the contrary, that you set up a date.  I don't know if you used the word date, but by the sounds of it, even if you didn't, she'll be thinking it's a date by the way you did it - if I am understanding how you did this correctly.

I think you've made some mistakes here.  The best way forward at this point, in my opinion, is, change nothing.  Go eat there as normal, talk to her as normal, use the same number of loops, and do the best you can with how you have things set up.  Now you have to go 2 weeks without somehow screwing up, before you even get to the date.  That's not ideal by any means.  At this point, you have some good things going, but your setup isn't perfect, and you have to keep things going until the date.  Don't make things harder for yourself than you need to!  It's already damned difficult for a guy these days.

So again... my advice is, change nothing.  1 loop per day on, keep going to eat there as usual, keep talking to her as usual, etc. - make sure she knows you're still interested during the TWO WEEKS you made her wait for a date... and see how the date goes.

Or maybe see if she'd like to get together before then.

(05-11-2024, 11:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2024, 02:38 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]I understand and agree. I did the 2 hours then it was 3 day break. When I started back it was one hour.

I'm on a 3 day break now and will start back with 2 hours and try and take note on the difference it has on my crush.

The movie date is 2 weeks away so I've always felt that no contact and them not seeing me till the date is best.

But maybe it depends what type of person it is.

Being she's my server if I went the next 2 week to eat it may mess something up.

I see no reason I can't go in and eat as usual but I'm not sure

You have experience with servers so what do you suggest I do?

First, I would use 1 loop, and not change any variables until weeks or months past the determination of what happens with the relationship.

Second, I would never allow a date to wait that long before it happens.  I have never made a date for more than a couple days in advance.  The longer it waits, the longer she has time to think, the longer her fears and doubts have time to grow, etc.  I always try to go on a date (or get together with her instead of a date) the same day I ask, or the next day.  Making them wait is a bad idea for those reasons, and because it makes it more likely that she will shoot you down.

Third, you want to just disappear for two weeks before the date?  That's not a good idea at all in my opinion.  That will just make her think you've lost interest, and then her imagination will run wild and it'll blow up in your face. 

Fourth, it sounds like in spite of my input to the contrary, that you set up a date.  I don't know if you used the word date, but by the sounds of it, even if you didn't, she'll be thinking it's a date by the way you did it - if I am understanding how you did this correctly.

I think you've made some mistakes here.  The best way forward at this point, in my opinion, is, change nothing.  Go eat there as normal, talk to her as normal, use the same number of loops, and do the best you can with how you have things set up.  Now you have to go 2 weeks without somehow screwing up, before you even get to the date.  That's not ideal by any means.  At this point, you have some good things going, but your setup isn't perfect, and you have to keep things going until the date.  Don't make things harder for yourself than you need to!  It's already damned difficult for a guy these days.

So again... my advice is, change nothing.  1 loop per day on, keep going to eat there as usual, keep talking to her as usual, etc. - make sure she knows you're still interested during the TWO WEEKS you made her wait for a date... and see how the date goes.

Or maybe see if she'd like to get together before then.

I agree the set up wasn't very good but the movie she said she wanted to see was Garfield and it comes out the 23rd of this month so I asked her to meet me there to see it. 

 So I didn't use the word date. 

Most times I ask a girl to do something within a day or so but this seemed like a good idea at the time.

But yeah, going 2 weeks without screwing something up,  well that's on me. 

I was thinking of asking if she wants to do something before then.

By the way disappearing for that amount of time was a female friends idea but it sounded crazy. My mentor taught me that to keep from screwing things up, but when it didn't work he just said it doesn't work all the time.

I only ever used that 2 times and it failed so I stopped it.

I'll do one loop and keep talking to her as usual.

(05-12-2024, 06:38 AM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2024, 11:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]First, I would use 1 loop, and not change any variables until weeks or months past the determination of what happens with the relationship.

Second, I would never allow a date to wait that long before it happens.  I have never made a date for more than a couple days in advance.  The longer it waits, the longer she has time to think, the longer her fears and doubts have time to grow, etc.  I always try to go on a date (or get together with her instead of a date) the same day I ask, or the next day.  Making them wait is a bad idea for those reasons, and because it makes it more likely that she will shoot you down.

Third, you want to just disappear for two weeks before the date?  That's not a good idea at all in my opinion.  That will just make her think you've lost interest, and then her imagination will run wild and it'll blow up in your face. 

Fourth, it sounds like in spite of my input to the contrary, that you set up a date.  I don't know if you used the word date, but by the sounds of it, even if you didn't, she'll be thinking it's a date by the way you did it - if I am understanding how you did this correctly.

I think you've made some mistakes here.  The best way forward at this point, in my opinion, is, change nothing.  Go eat there as normal, talk to her as normal, use the same number of loops, and do the best you can with how you have things set up.  Now you have to go 2 weeks without somehow screwing up, before you even get to the date.  That's not ideal by any means.  At this point, you have some good things going, but your setup isn't perfect, and you have to keep things going until the date.  Don't make things harder for yourself than you need to!  It's already damned difficult for a guy these days.

So again... my advice is, change nothing.  1 loop per day on, keep going to eat there as usual, keep talking to her as usual, etc. - make sure she knows you're still interested during the TWO WEEKS you made her wait for a date... and see how the date goes.

Or maybe see if she'd like to get together before then.

I agree the set up wasn't very good but the movie she said she wanted to see was Garfield and it comes out the 23rd of this month so I asked her to meet me there to see it. 

 So I didn't use the word date. 

Most times I ask a girl to do something within a day or so but this seemed like a good idea at the time.

But yeah, going 2 weeks without screwing something up,  well that's on me. 

I was thinking of asking if she wants to do something before then.

By the way disappearing for that amount of time was a female friends idea but it sounded crazy. My mentor taught me that to keep from screwing things up, but when it didn't work he just said it doesn't work all the time.

I only ever used that 2 times and it failed so I stopped it.

I'll do one loop and keep talking to her as usual.

I text this new girl that's 20 and said I'm going to go eat at this place, ya wanna go? 

I sent her the address and said Leaving now.

She said Lol Right now

I said Yes I'm hungry.

So we met there and had a good time.

I know because she said she had a good time and hopes next time she won't be awkward IF there's a next time. I said there will be.

We've text a lot since then.

X4a 1511 is great.

Now, with the server, I went to eat yesterday and I was told she had been cut from the floor by another server I know.

I said I'd order to go. My server was at the register I stood there till she said Hey.  She was distracted or something because she took my order and I sat down across from the register and she didn't come to talk to me or anything.

When I got my food I commented that we were matching because I had a pink shirt on and she had a pink bow in her hair.

When I said we match..she said Really but wasn't paying attention or it seemed that way...

I said yeah you have a pink bow. She said I always wear pink... I didn't say anything at that point but she asked me twice if I needed anything else after she gave my order to me and even gave me a bag for it.

I left her a good tip even though I didn't have to for carry out.

Seemed she was not having the best day. She eats very little at work. She's always telling me she hasn't eaten yet and all that. 

So a normal interaction with the server and not much else to report right now.