(02-03-2024, 02:48 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]You might still get results with SM3, but I heavily recommend focusing on your foundation if you aren’t getting interest without techniques. Not to be the guy who recommends the boring thing, but it will save you time and get you better results in the long term.
Techniques you mean PUA stuff?
I actually never got laid using it
I started to implement these things as an interesting experiment and to get into groups but to be honest I don't have success using it
All the girls who wanted me wanted me for my energy
But I'm willing to learn new things that's why I'm trying it
About a better foundation I think I don't have to use something else other than AM refresher before SM I bet it will work anyway
But...
I'm looking at the new EHPRA
And it says it contains the OGSF so I don't understand the difference between them it's very confusing
EHPRA contains so many cool things but I mean it also says if you have anxiety, which for whatever reason did started to come up for me unfortunately, the OGSF might be a better option
I am not really sure what will be the best option for me going forward
Ah okay, that’s good. The old school pua stuff comes from a terrible mindset of having to prove yourself and that you have no intrinsic value so you need to “put on a show”.
I’m not completely sure which is better in general. All I know is that OGSF2 is the go to if you want pure results since Shannon says fear is the main reason for resistance. EPHRA contains OGSF but Shannon said it’s not the OGSF2 script, but the OGSF1 script updated to 5.11G so I guess not as good as OGSF2 in some ways… It really seems like a coin flip.
SM3 will work depending on your foundation and what traumas you have and a bunch of other stuff unique to your situation. It tends not to work for most guys who just start out so when I heard you using techniques I thought I had misjudged you.
(02-04-2024, 01:46 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Ah okay, that’s good. The old school pua stuff comes from a terrible mindset of having to prove yourself and that you have no intrinsic value so you need to “put on a show”.
I’m not completely sure which is better in general. All I know is that OGSF2 is the go to if you want pure results since Shannon says fear is the main reason for resistance. EPHRA contains OGSF but Shannon said it’s not the OGSF2 script, but the OGSF1 script updated to 5.11G so I guess not as good as OGSF2 in some ways… It really seems like a coin flip.
SM3 will work depending on your foundation and what traumas you have and a bunch of other stuff unique to your situation. It tends not to work for most guys who just start out so when I heard you using techniques I thought I had misjudged you.
I'm not a PUA guy
The most success I had with women was when I was consistent with my affirmations I didn't really need to do much other than starting conversations
But when I've stopped it went away
(I guess like it you stop WM after few months)
I might need OGSF2 / EPHRA
There's a reason anxiety started to come up
But I want serious relationship at some point
If I use it for 6 months I'll not be able to start SM3 sooner
And I'm not getting younger I should think about a family soon...
Not to mention I want to continue with WM after SM
So in short if I use OGSF2 it will not be a long run
Maybe just a month or 2
I wander what's Shannon's opinion on the matter
@
Shannon
Also how OGSF2 and EPHRA are different?
Thanks
I recommend asking Shannon in his journal discussion since he doesn’t always have time to read our journals. He’ll be able to tell you about EPHRA and OGSF better than me since I’ve never used the new EPHRA. A little tidbit: when I asked about the OGSF module in EPHRA he told me it’s not OGSF2 but OGSF1 upgraded to 5.11G inside of EPHRA6, essentially.
Anyways, I’m not fully aware of your situation and all the complexities, but some generally good advice is this: sometimes going slower is actually going faster. Working on the foundation is often slower in the short run but faster in the long run. I get that time is slipping through our fingers, I’m very aware of that. But even though I’d rather be using subs that fulfill my desires, my experience has shown me that rushing this stuff leads to dissatisfaction. And this stuff is incredibly important to get right to avoid wasting time.
Don’t forget that if you don’t achieve the results you want from SM/WM it is wasted opportunity cost. There’s not much healing/clearing in them which is the stuff that lasts. If you don’t achieve your results it’s not a complete whiff/waste of time, but in another sense it’s a huge loss due to the opportunity cost of there being much more advanced subs with more impact you could be running that are boring on the surface but work on the important stuff on the backend that will set you up for the long run. Don’t forget that 6G is just around the corner and soon AM7 will be out, and after that WM3 and SM4.
In the end you make the choice I just provide you with some extra perspective from my own journey. I can’t know what you know so I’m doing my best with the perspective and history that I have. I have my biases from my own experience so ultimately you have to take my advice from your own perspective and make the best choice you can.
(02-05-2024, 03:22 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]I recommend asking Shannon in his journal discussion since he doesn’t always have time to read our journals. He’ll be able to tell you about EPHRA and OGSF better than me since I’ve never used the new EPHRA. A little tidbit: when I asked about the OGSF module in EPHRA he told me it’s not OGSF2 but OGSF1 upgraded to 5.11G inside of EPHRA6, essentially.
Anyways, I’m not fully aware of your situation and all the complexities, but some generally good advice is this: sometimes going slower is actually going faster. Working on the foundation is often slower in the short run but faster in the long run. I get that time is slipping through our fingers, I’m very aware of that. But even though I’d rather be using subs that fulfill my desires, my experience has shown me that rushing this stuff leads to dissatisfaction. And this stuff is incredibly important to get right to avoid wasting time.
Don’t forget that if you don’t achieve the results you want from SM/WM it is wasted opportunity cost. There’s not much healing/clearing in them which is the stuff that lasts. If you don’t achieve your results it’s not a complete whiff/waste of time, but in another sense it’s a huge loss due to the opportunity cost of there being much more advanced subs with more impact you could be running that are boring on the surface but work on the important stuff on the backend that will set you up for the long run. Don’t forget that 6G is just around the corner and soon AM7 will be out, and after that WM3 and SM4.
In the end you make the choice I just provide you with some extra perspective from my own journey. I can’t know what you know so I’m doing my best with the perspective and history that I have. I have my biases from my own experience so ultimately you have to take my advice from your own perspective and make the best choice you can.
Ok I'll try to check with Shannon
I appreciate the input even though I'd rather continue to push forward with SM3
But I do think about what you're saying here
So thanks man !
Stage 5 day 14:
I think I've understood why I've been a bit impatient lately. I'm a bit sensitive to subs, and I've been playing them for 16-21 hours a day lately. Only after I meditate do I realize I feel much better.
Also, it could be that Stage 5 is pushing for something I'm not aware of.
Usually, I played subs for no more than 8 hours.
My mind needs a rest that's for sure
(02-05-2024, 08:08 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2024, 03:22 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]I recommend asking Shannon in his journal discussion since he doesn’t always have time to read our journals. He’ll be able to tell you about EPHRA and OGSF better than me since I’ve never used the new EPHRA. A little tidbit: when I asked about the OGSF module in EPHRA he told me it’s not OGSF2 but OGSF1 upgraded to 5.11G inside of EPHRA6, essentially.
Anyways, I’m not fully aware of your situation and all the complexities, but some generally good advice is this: sometimes going slower is actually going faster. Working on the foundation is often slower in the short run but faster in the long run. I get that time is slipping through our fingers, I’m very aware of that. But even though I’d rather be using subs that fulfill my desires, my experience has shown me that rushing this stuff leads to dissatisfaction. And this stuff is incredibly important to get right to avoid wasting time.
Don’t forget that if you don’t achieve the results you want from SM/WM it is wasted opportunity cost. There’s not much healing/clearing in them which is the stuff that lasts. If you don’t achieve your results it’s not a complete whiff/waste of time, but in another sense it’s a huge loss due to the opportunity cost of there being much more advanced subs with more impact you could be running that are boring on the surface but work on the important stuff on the backend that will set you up for the long run. Don’t forget that 6G is just around the corner and soon AM7 will be out, and after that WM3 and SM4.
In the end you make the choice I just provide you with some extra perspective from my own journey. I can’t know what you know so I’m doing my best with the perspective and history that I have. I have my biases from my own experience so ultimately you have to take my advice from your own perspective and make the best choice you can.
Ok I'll try to check with Shannon
I appreciate the input even though I'd rather continue to push forward with SM3
But I do think about what you're saying here
So thanks man !
Either way you'll learn something!
(02-05-2024, 08:55 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]Stage 5 day 14:
I think I've understood why I've been a bit impatient lately. I'm a bit sensitive to subs, and I've been playing them for 16-21 hours a day lately. Only after I meditate do I realize I feel much better.
Also, it could be that Stage 5 is pushing for something I'm not aware of.
Usually, I played subs for no more than 8 hours.
My mind needs a rest that's for sure
It may be too much. I remember trying a huge amount of hours of either AM 5.0 or 6 and I just felt overwhelmed, hard to think and just felt 'off' and it improved when I dialled it back. It is tempting but there is such thing as too much.
(02-05-2024, 09:53 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2024, 08:55 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]Stage 5 day 14:
I think I've understood why I've been a bit impatient lately. I'm a bit sensitive to subs, and I've been playing them for 16-21 hours a day lately. Only after I meditate do I realize I feel much better.
Also, it could be that Stage 5 is pushing for something I'm not aware of.
Usually, I played subs for no more than 8 hours.
My mind needs a rest that's for sure
It may be too much. I remember trying a huge amount of hours of either AM 5.0 or 6 and I just felt overwhelmed, hard to think and just felt 'off' and it improved when I dialled it back. It is tempting but there is such thing as too much.
Indeed.
Moreover I've noticed Stage 5 ultrasound volume is higher significantly than the previous stages.
So apparently 5/6 clicks on Android is too much.
I've understood that using FrequenSee App to see what the source volume is
At some points of Stage 5 it goes beyond -30 which is not good.
So that's another reason for my headaches and feeling out of it.
My facial expressions are of a blanked and tired man another reason for not feeling confident and alpha.
So basically it's an energy problem I have currently.
Sleep was not the best either.
Anyhow I'll try to make sure volume is not too high and that I get better sleep
And expose myself less
Let's see what happens
Thank for the feedback @
Benjamin
Stage 5, Day 15:
Last night before sleep, I recalibrated the volume of my BeatsPill Plus to 2 clicks instead of 3/4. I've slept better.
I feel a bit better, and the sun is out.
I will say I need to rest more, but generally speaking, the volume on my BeatsPill at night was too high. At work, I set my Android to 3 clicks instead of 5. It's better.
Today at work, I feel more focused and more Alpha - for example, my body language has improved significantly, and my confidence is high again. I think it's natural for these things to fluctuate with each stage, each week, and each day. That's something to be expected.
So, that's some good news: now I feel better and more confident.
I need to remember that AM6 is working on something all the time and I cannot just expect to see benefits; there will be ups and downs.
Stage 5, Day 17:
An Alpha King in the making:
**Background:**
For years, my focus has been more on women and enjoying the simple things in life, such as outings with friends to movies and restaurants, hitting the gym, or reading books.
I own a small business that's struggling significantly. Every few years, I consider shutting it down but fear the consequences, so I persist.
I've noticed substantial changes in myself:
Stage 1+2 immediately shifted my focus away from women and sex. Instead of feeling sexually frustrated, I began to feel that I didn't need them.
By Stages 4 and 5, this sense of non-neediness really started to manifest. After a few months, I became somewhat frustrated by not receiving as much attention from women, which was driven by ego. However, I wasn't sexually frustrated, marking a significant distinction.
During Stages 1 and 2, I explored starting a new venture with friends, which failed by Stage 3. In Stage 4, a different friend proposed a new business idea, which I found appealing but too complex for us to execute.
Now, in Stage 5, I've become even more aware of my business and financial issues. My non-neediness means I don't go out much anymore. I'm dedicating more time to work, confronting the myriad problems my business has caused: insufficient income, excessive effort, and a bleak future.
I'm now eager to resolve these issues. I've realized that my current business may not be suitable for me, and starting something new will be challenging.
This month, I attempted a new venture that seems to have failed, resulting in significant financial loss and leaving me in a bad mood for weeks.
However, I've decided to pursue a different path, thankfully inspired by a great idea from my mom.
Although it might take a few years, I'm confident I'm heading in the right direction, with AM6 offering substantial support. The transition of Pluto into Aquarius is another influence I'm feeling positively about, which you can find more information on via Google.
Additionally, I sometimes listen to energetic audios, including one focused on transmutation.
In short, AM6 and that audio have led me to stop watching porn, effectively curing my addiction. It's astonishing. While I'm not sure how long this effect will last, I'm currently repulsed by porn for over a week.
Yes I'm on my way to become an Alpha King!
TL;DR:
AM6 has helped me shift my focus away from women and overcome neediness, providing clarity on moving forward with my life.
It has also helped me quit watching porn.
I'm transitioning from a failing business to a new endeavor, which is expected to take about a year to start.
@
Frosted
Hi just so you know I really like your input so feel free to say what's on your mind.
Not sure if I continue with SM right after AM6
I'm more focused on myself which is great!
If I ever choose to continue which SM3 or WM2 which one will help me focus on business as well without focusing too much on women?
Thanks
Thanks, glad you appreciate my advice! With SM3 and WM2 it’s hard to say since both focus heavily on women. You’ll probably see a significant shift in your focus if you use them. With that being said I remember an anecdote of 1 guy who used SM3 and it helped with his business indirectly.
Stage 5, Day 19:
Progress:
Going out has helped me understand how I compare to my friends and recognize the progress I've made.
Briefly, a friend complimented me yesterday for exhibiting Alpha male characteristics. He didn't phrase it exactly like that but highlighted my body language, confidence, and indifference to others' opinions. He observed that I always maintain my composure, establish boundaries when needed, and so on.
Additionally, while he felt a lot of social anxiety yesterday, I felt none.
It seems I have made progress (my starting position was already strong, to be honest, but it has further improved me).
Women:
I intentionally go out with attention grabbing clothes.
I received a lot of respect from people and men alike. For instance, the manager (male) offered us free shots, and the bartenders (men and mostly women) complimented my outfit. It was attention-grabbing. One girl even made her way over from her table just to tell me my clothes were really awesome and beautiful.
Later, we joined that group. The girl who approached me is not my type(short and round) and seemed too eager. Her friend was cute, but she didn’t continue the conversation with me.
She lost interest really quick.
What I'm trying to convey is that I'm somewhat of an Alpha and I'm confident, kind of like the cool James Bond type described in the PDF for stage 5, which says it makes you that James Bond guy. However, I don’t feel sexy, and there's no traction with women.
Meaning, they are not showing interest.
Even if I approach.
I mean probably if I were to have female friends they would, with time, get attracted because I have a lot of Alpha characteristics.
It would take her time to notice that.
But for girls who don't know me? I mean currently I'm not magnetic.
If I approach, they are sometimes really mean, rude, and say they hate men and that everyone is approaching them while they are in the middle of a conversation.
So, I think it’s a great program, but it lacks in attracting women's attention, which is unfortunate. I know the sales page mentions becoming more attractive to women, but that hasn't been the case for me. That's just an observation.
And to be honest, maybe it’s for the best. I have a lot to work on to improve myself.
I'm talking business and health.
I don't feel I need to improve my confidence.
So it's good I'm focused more on business now and my future.
I need to change a lot in my life. A girl might be a distraction.
And the program does push me to improve myself.
So that's amazing.