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(08-13-2020, 01:31 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-11-2020, 09:45 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]I'd personally wait for E4 to be released, once Shannon extracts it from LTU6.

Probably that is what I will do once it is released. Are you also on EPRHA? I saw LTU6 and I'm amazed about what it will do. If only I can afford it.

I have used the free EPHRA, many years ago, then bought E2 when it came out.  I enjoyed that sub a lot.  I then ran DMSI for years, a few other subs (USLM V2/3/4/4.1, SDM, OF 5.75G), and now LTU6 5.75G.  The new LTU has E4 in it, and so far, it's really great.  So in that sense, I'm on EPHRA, which has always been beneficial for my personality type.
(08-11-2020, 09:32 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: [ -> ]As I understand you are using free EPRHA V1 , there is a newer version of EPRHA V3 (Emotional Pain Relief Healing Aid). The newer EPRHA is 5.5G.  It is always better to use new version, I can't say if you can switch to newer version immediately, Shannon knows this better.
E3 already a great program, I believe you will benefit from it.

In what ways do you think I will benefit from it. Btw are you a stoic?
(08-11-2020, 10:07 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]The damage porn does is understated. Only the last few years, is there enough information coming out showing what it does, how, why etc.

The porn issue needs to be handled. I didn't go quite to the extreme you did with it, each of us develop different personal "fetishes" through the porn, but that's the typical progression. Needing more and more extreme dopamine rushes from the porn, to get the same feeling. Eventually, you're so far removed from reality, that you lose the ability to be turned on and gain an erection from a real female. It's serious.

It's taken me like two years of vigilance to just start getting morning woods back, starting to slightly gain erections in regards to normal females at times. Even now, after all this time, my erections aren't 100% back to normal. That causes a degree of worry about being intimate with a woman, naturally, the worry about not having a full erection capability yet. It takes a very long time to heal from this damage from porn.

My advice is to take it very seriously. Educate yourself at one of the most well-known sites on the subject, by Dr. Gary Wilson: yourbrainonporn.com . EHPRA may, or may NOT deal with this, for this a direct approach is best. I too have suffered from this for years, I know what you're feeling. Personally, I'd recommend you use the Overcome Pornography Addiction sub as soon as possible vigorously to get out of this disastrous state. Because, even after the porn addiction is gone, the damage will take a very long time to heal. I've had lingering issues with fapping, that was more of an issue for me then porn. But, both can take a long time to remedy sadly. Especially if you've been doing them for a long time, and how young you started. Learn what you can from that site I gave you, let me know if you have any questions about the journey. I'll do what I can. This stuff is modern-day poison for men...it should be illegal for the damage it causes in so many ways. It's going to be horrible with this VR crap coming too. I'm so worried for future men.

All the best to you, that's what I can offer you, given first hand experience with this stuff for years. You can climb out of this gutter. Trust me. I promise.

Man, I know all the damage porn does and I still can't get rid of it. Just watched porn early in the morning earlier. It's a really bad habit to get rid off. How long have you been off porn?
(08-11-2020, 11:20 AM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]I actually dropped subs altogether back then, after a week or two. Big mistake, but we live and we learn. 

The current version is v3, but it’s going to be replaced by v4 real soon, maybe as soon as a couple of weeks. The new version might be the same price but only Shannon can confirm that for sure.

Oh cool. I'm going to watch out for that.

(08-11-2020, 11:21 AM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon said you can switch immediately, I asked the same question a while ago.

That's good to hear. I'm currently two weeks in using this sub.
(08-17-2020, 02:34 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-11-2020, 09:32 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: [ -> ]As I understand you are using free EPRHA V1 , there is a newer version of EPRHA V3 (Emotional Pain Relief Healing Aid). The newer EPRHA is 5.5G.  It is always better to use new version, I can't say if you can switch to newer version immediately, Shannon knows this better.
E3 already a great program, I believe you will benefit from it.

In what ways do you think I will benefit from it. Btw are you a stoic?

E3 (or E4 will be published soon I guess) is very good for emotional issues like childhood traumas and any kind of bad things those happened to you. it used by large numbers of people, there are plenty of journals in here, 
I am trying to understand and applying stoic philosophy for a long time, yes I want to live that kind of life
How it is going on for you with EPRHA ?
(08-11-2020, 11:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Latest published version is v3, which is 5.5G.  I'll be extracting v4 from LTU6 and publishing it soon.  It is a 5.75G.  Because of the corona virus pandemic and the economic hit it's had on everyone, I am not raising prices right now.  So v4 will be the same price as v3 when it comes out.  If you can afford it and you need the best available right now, do v3 and get v4 whenever you can.  If you can not easily afford it, wait for v4.

And yes, you can switch from older version to newer version without a break.

This is good to hear Shannon. I'm working hard on my business to earn more so I'll be able to have to money for it. Good luck on extracting the v4 from LTU6. Corona is hitting us all hard. Personally I've got to say that all my life this year has been probably the worse.
(08-17-2020, 03:00 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: [ -> ]E3 (or E4 will be published soon I guess) is very good for emotional issues like childhood traumas and any kind of bad things those happened to you. it used by large numbers of people, there are plenty of journals in here, 
I am trying to understand and applying stoic philosophy for a long time, yes I want to live that kind of life
How it is going on for you with EPRHA ?

So E3 is specifically for the past unresolved issues that we once experienced? If so, then it is highly relevant to me. As I said I was damaged hard by my previous relationship. In a way also I have a chip on my shoulder career wise. I've been fired twice when I was working. My dream was to really be an entrepreneur and now I have it. But still in my industry I am always falling up short. In a way I get irritated and annoyed that I don't get things I want in life. I noticed most journals here are centered upon Overcome Fear (OF) 5.75g? I'm slightly thinking if that is more appropriate for me. I can't afford it though. But EPHRA also has fear removal so what's the difference?

I'm very much inclined with the Stoics as well. I learned a lot from reading from them. Hard to live by though and practice. I could never have a streak with my journaling and meditation.
(08-17-2020, 03:20 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]My dream was to really be an entrepreneur and now I have it. But still in my industry I am always falling up short. In a way I get irritated and annoyed that I don't get things I want in life.

I will start a biz too, I am on it.  Best wishes about your biz too,  I hope everything will be good for your biz.


(08-17-2020, 03:20 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]I noticed most journals here are centered upon Overcome Fear (OF) 5.75g? I'm slightly thinking if that is more appropriate for me. I can't afford it though. But EPHRA also has fear removal so what's the difference?

OF is a newer sub, and very popular nowadays beside LTU6. E3 has FRM in it, but it is removing fears that related to E3 goals. OF's goal is completely removing ALL of fears, not related to any subjects, all of them. OF is newer tech and as you read journals, people started to give very good feedbacks about it. 
I used too E1 (which is free version, you are using this) but just one week, once I saw some weird dreams which means sub is started to work on me, then I switched to AM6. 

As I understand you are new to subs. Give yourself some time with free EPRHA, and see how it is affecting you, Here in IML, you can find some very good subliminals those really can help you with your monetary matters. 
For example BASE, UMS, USLM ... you can search and read journals, see subliminal-shop.com to read product descriptions, read Glossary and FAQ sections for further explanations.

Feel free to ask me, I can answer as I can and know. Thumbsup

(08-17-2020, 03:20 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]I'm very much inclined with the Stoics as well. I learned a lot from reading from them. Hard to live by though and practice. I could never have a streak with my journaling and meditation.

I am reading and thinking for hours on their thoughts, lives, with time you are starting to remember how they respond to things. 
Generally I don't have a stoic journal but I am writing almost everyday about my life, goals etc.



EDIT: I saw just now, you are not new to subs lmao.
A small update. Earlier before while taking a bath I thought of bully back in 4th grade. He used to kick me in the nuts with the intention of getting me infertile and what not. He also used to tease me with a girl which back then I find really annoying. I didn't to much to fought back which is very much one of my regrets. He was my seatmate for the majority of my 4th grade. Before him seating next to me, I used to look up to him because he was intelligent and was good in math. Our teacher and advised like him deeply. He didn't use any scratch paper to make math computations. Once our teacher saw him kicking me and our adviser didn't do anything but just told him to stop in a fairly nice way.

Looking back I want to kick him in the nuts or worse cut them and shove it up his a--. I'm a bit of an asshole now but that's what I think. I'm even planning at times on going to the place where he lives and doing this upon him for revenge. But just earlier I think off what if I just forgive him for it? I said "f--- that". Still this is the only time I thought of that. Bear in mind I have said to myself of forgiving what my ex has done and moving on but I haven't thought of moving on from this prick. Possible improvement from EPHRA sub?
(08-17-2020, 04:45 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: [ -> ]I will start a biz too, I am on it.  Best wishes about your biz too,  I hope everything will be good for your biz.

OF is a newer sub, and very popular nowadays beside LTU6. E3 has FRM in it, but it is removing fears that related to E3 goals. OF's goal is completely removing ALL of fears, not related to any subjects, all of them. OF is newer tech and as you read journals, people started to give very good feedbacks about it. 
I used too E1 (which is free version, you are using this) but just one week, once I saw some weird dreams which means sub is started to work on me, then I switched to AM6. 

As I understand you are new to subs. Give yourself some time with free EPRHA, and see how it is affecting you, Here in IML, you can find some very good subliminals those really can help you with your monetary matters. 
For example BASE, UMS, USLM ... you can search and read journals, see subliminal-shop.com to read product descriptions, read Glossary and FAQ sections for further explanations.

Feel free to ask me, I can answer as I can and know. Thumbsup 

I am reading and thinking for hours on their thoughts, lives, with time you are starting to remember how they respond to things. 
Generally I don't have a stoic journal but I am writing almost everyday about my life, goals etc.

EDIT: I saw just now, you are not new to subs lmao.

With my biz I just did it back then. I didn't actually made much plans. I just dived in and after 2 years it was pretty much a success financially. It's just that Corona is hitting me hard lately. Good thing I have back financials to live on. But being sick practically 3/4 of this year isn't helping as well. I know when things slowly get back to normal, everything will be ok but I still am motivated to try new biz ideas. It's still a small biz but enough to make me live comfortably for the past years as compared to when I was working.

Thanks for explaining. Yes I've been into subs since AM4. I have even tried AM3 since a friend gave it to me back then. Too bad I don't have journals that I can check. I even remember getting the Learn Musical Instrument for when I was learning the guitar.

Anyhow being able to have the discipline to write daily is a great trait to have. I want to go back to writing affirmations on a notebook for the things I am grateful for but I remember Shannon warns against doing other things aside from the subs as it might interfere with the effectivity.
(08-17-2020, 02:38 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-11-2020, 10:07 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]The damage porn does is understated. Only the last few years, is there enough information coming out showing what it does, how, why etc.

The porn issue needs to be handled. I didn't go quite to the extreme you did with it, each of us develop different personal "fetishes" through the porn, but that's the typical progression. Needing more and more extreme dopamine rushes from the porn, to get the same feeling. Eventually, you're so far removed from reality, that you lose the ability to be turned on and gain an erection from a real female. It's serious.

It's taken me like two years of vigilance to just start getting morning woods back, starting to slightly gain erections in regards to normal females at times. Even now, after all this time, my erections aren't 100% back to normal. That causes a degree of worry about being intimate with a woman, naturally, the worry about not having a full erection capability yet. It takes a very long time to heal from this damage from porn.

My advice is to take it very seriously. Educate yourself at one of the most well-known sites on the subject, by Dr. Gary Wilson: yourbrainonporn.com . EHPRA may, or may NOT deal with this, for this a direct approach is best. I too have suffered from this for years, I know what you're feeling. Personally, I'd recommend you use the Overcome Pornography Addiction sub as soon as possible vigorously to get out of this disastrous state. Because, even after the porn addiction is gone, the damage will take a very long time to heal. I've had lingering issues with fapping, that was more of an issue for me then porn. But, both can take a long time to remedy sadly. Especially if you've been doing them for a long time, and how young you started. Learn what you can from that site I gave you, let me know if you have any questions about the journey. I'll do what I can. This stuff is modern-day poison for men...it should be illegal for the damage it causes in so many ways. It's going to be horrible with this VR crap coming too. I'm so worried for future men.

All the best to you, that's what I can offer you, given first hand experience with this stuff for years. You can climb out of this gutter. Trust me. I promise.

Man, I know all the damage porn does and I still can't get rid of it. Just watched porn early in the morning earlier. It's a really bad habit to get rid off. How long have you been off porn?

A very long time. Years. Feels like forever ago I'd be searching and seeking and downloading often for my particular fetish through it's usual porn-induced superstimulus. Fapping was more of an ingrained habit for me, and more difficult for me to shake, than porn. If a guy like me, with porn/fapping being my only sexual outlet due to being a virgin got that porn monkey off my back, thus technically giving up my ONLY sexual outlet...anyone can. Believe me on that! I realised how poisonous it was, even if it WAS my only sexual outlet, and made the change.

Overcome Pornography Addiction 4G is a good sub, I used it briefly. And I used the Stop Masturbation sub a lot. That one has the distinction of being the most advanced 4G sub made here, most recent 4G made and very effective! They're both very solid subs and fantastic prices too.

I promise you can turn this corner. It may not be easy, especially early on, but you CAN do it.
(08-17-2020, 06:10 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]A very long time. Years. Feels like forever ago I'd be searching and seeking and downloading often for my particular fetish through it's usual porn-induced superstimulus. Fapping was more of an ingrained habit for me, and more difficult for me to shake, than porn. If a guy like me, with porn/fapping being my only sexual outlet due to being a virgin got that porn monkey off my back, thus technically giving up my ONLY sexual outlet...anyone can. Believe me on that! I realised how poisonous it was, even if it WAS my only sexual outlet, and made the change.

Overcome Pornography Addiction 4G is a good sub, I used it briefly. And I used the Stop Masturbation sub a lot. That one has the distinction of being the most advanced 4G sub made here, most recent 4G made and very effective! They're both very solid subs and fantastic prices too.

I promise you can turn this corner. It may not be easy, especially early on, but you CAN do it.

So you've been off porn for years now? I can even barely make it two weeks.
Been listening to this sub for only 9 hours each night. I will have to bump it up to at least 12 hours each night plus day. Currently on Day 17 since I started on August 2
Early in the morning I was pissed off with what my mom had told me so I tossed my drink and the jug. Our entire living room was filled with my juice and broken glass.
I'm currently reaching third week with the sub. Anger levels are spiking and like what I said totally out of control.
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