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Just The Facts

I just found out 3.3 is released. I'm downloading it now. Not sure if I can immediately start a consistent schedule, but we'll see. I'm just gonna be reporting the facts here. Aiming for minimal fluff.

Ever since I finished 3.2, my hormones feel pretty strong at times. I've had strong sexual urges that cause me to spend more time than I planned to just fapping and watching porn. I don't have time for that shit tbh.

My hormones are annoying to deal with.

I suggested to Shannon that DMSI puts the same level of sexual frustration the user has onto the girls around them and stays until they have sex. I'm not counting on that being in there now, but it'd sure as hell make me feel better.

I see that now it's 5 loops (5.5 hrs) for 3.3D. I was hoping for no more than 3. But hopefully I can make this work.

At worst, I'll have a chance to be consistent with 5 loops a day after the holidays.

Edit: One last thing. Even after 3.2, I continued to have some vivid dreams revolving around girls/past girls. Especially the past couple of weeks. Felt out of the ordinary for not being on a sub. Still could've been nothing but co-incidence.
Headaches

Ever since day 2, I've had a constant headache. It's even lasted over night so I still have it now.

It's definitely affected my sleep schedule, got noticeably less since the day I started but still felt fine for the most part.

Right now, I just want the headaches gone completely.
I always get you and mat422 mixed up lol i had to check the main page to double check if you were him or not
(12-21-2018, 09:04 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Headaches

Ever since day 2, I've had a constant headache. It's even lasted over night so I still have it now.

It's definitely affected my sleep schedule, got noticeably less since the day I started but still felt fine for the most part.

Right now, I just want the headaches gone completely.

What format and volume do you use? Maybe you play the sub too loud?
(12-22-2018, 08:34 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-21-2018, 09:04 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Headaches

Ever since day 2, I've had a constant headache. It's even lasted over night so I still have it now.

It's definitely affected my sleep schedule, got noticeably less since the day I started but still felt fine for the most part.

Right now, I just want the headaches gone completely.

What format and volume do you use? Maybe you play the sub too loud?

I played it on my iPhone using VLC player at first but I heard audio compression happening so I switched to FLAC player.

I’ve only done the trickling stream track with speakers or headphones. I’m sure it wasn’t a volume issue.
Headaches seem to be gone completely which is great.

I see Shannon say that masturbation and porn could be a form of fear in response to the program. I also saw him tell someone who was planning to do nofap but still have sex when the opportunity was there that that could be a clever way to sabotage the program.

I understand that the same action can mean different things for different people. For me, I’ve felt like masturbating to porn has been the only part of sexuality I’ve been able to explore. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. No, I don’t feel it’s fear related. Give me the chance to fuck a girl Im attracted to instead of porn, I’ll take it.

So far, I can say the goals of the program are not currently being reached. No approaches or notable reactions so far.

Edit: Still though I would say that some part of me doesn’t want to cum from fapping anymore at all. But the other part of me wants to just ejaculate nonstop (a mental fantasy of mine) but with a real girl. For some reason I’ve not let myself cum when I’ve been masturbating to porn. But I know I could if I chose to for sure.
Quote:I see Shannon say that masturbation and porn could be a form of fear in response to the program. I also saw him tell someone who was planning to do nofap but still have sex when the opportunity was there that that could be a clever way to sabotage the program.

What he said was that he was going to block out women completely. That is what I was referring to when I said it was a clever form of resistance. Prevent the program from working, then "wait for it to work".
I still don’t understand how he could “block out women completely” if he’s successfully running the program. He’d have to be reporting how women have been trying to approach and get with him. Regardless of his response to that, wouldn’t those results show it’s his own choice he’s not having sex and the program is doing as intended?

Still, thanks for the clarification of what you meant.
(12-29-2018, 02:16 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]I still don’t understand how he could “block out women completely” if he’s successfully running the program. He’d have to be reporting how women have been trying to approach and get with him. Regardless of his response to that, wouldn’t those results show it’s his own choice he’s not having sex and the program is doing as intended?

Still, thanks for the clarification of what you meant.

Go back and read what he wrote. He basically said that he was going to prevent himself from responding to women at all, and wait for DMSI to work. Well if he succeeds in preventing himself from responding to women at all, how can DMSI work? Thus, it's a clever self sabotage tactic designed to stop DMSI from working, while convincing the conscious mind that it is actually a method of making DMSI work.
Last night I just masturbated to porn till I came.

As I was about to get to sleep, I really thought about how not having a girlfriend or fuck buddy has cost me throughout my life. And I really felt like it cost me too much. I’d say it’s the biggest thing that’s weighed me down since grade school. If there was a price to pay so that my sex life corrected, I’d pay it.

I’m ready to have all the bullshit taken away. I’m ready for a higher quality of life.
I'm going to change my schedule up a bit. I'm changing it to listening M-F and taking the weekend off.

I've been doing trickling stream. I'm going to switch to hybrid when I change my schedule

So far, nothing notable to report. I've already started taking action to make 2019 a truly successful year.

Regarding the discussion about whether DMSI 3.4 should be 6G or 5.5G, it definitely should be 6G imo. I completely understand that Shannon runs a business here, but when DMSI was in its much earlier stages, it came across like it was sort of a crowdfunded project. In the kickstarter and indiegogo projects that I have funded, if I don't get what it was I gave my funds for I received a refund.

Yes, sure there have been many versions of the program released. But still I and some others have not received the benefits that the program was intended for. I can say for myself that no I have not just relied on DMSI to change my life. I spend a lot of time learning and applying what I learn to better myself.

For the people who DMSI has been properly working for, that's great. They've gotten what they paid for. It'd be unfair for Shannon to give them a much better version of something that's been working wonderfully for them completely for free.

For people like myself that DMSI has not been working properly for, I'm sure we all would love to get the results that the program intended. We wouldn't have spent our money and years of listening, enduring the headaches and the turmoil that came along with using the program if we didn't. It's unfair to us to say "Oh, sorry it didn't work for you. BUT we have a new version 4.0 that might work for you if you spend more money".

I see both sides here and you can't say it's unfair to one and not the other.
Starting today I'm on trickling stream hybrid.

Something is up either with my headphones or with my laptop's bluetooth. Audio would sometimes clip for a few milliseconds. It happened with any audio from the computer. I'll check and see which one caused it.

Slight headaches. Seems to be from the hybrid.

I'm doing a cleanse tomorrow. In fact I convinced my whole family to do it. It's gonna be for 2 weeks. But I'm going to be first on the cleanse with the rest to follow within the week. It shouldn't be that difficult. Just want to make it look doable for my family. They need it too.

The cleanse is a modified version of Elliot Hulse's metabolism reboot nutrition plan. I modified it to be for hormone balancing but made sure it still should achieve the originally intended results as well.

In addition to this cleanse, I'm going to be doing a cleanse for mind and energy too since this one covers the body. I'll be doing some basic meditation and energy exercises.

Pretty much my intention here is to hit the master reset button on my very being. There is much to be done both during and after this cleansing.
Been pretty busy getting some things in my life lined up. Still on my cleanse, just started the second cycle today. I'd like to start waking up by 7am and going to sleep by 9:30 pm. I'd have to make some major shifts to my current wake and sleep times but I'll figure it out.

It's encouraging to see Shannon working on an update for DMSI that he thinks will be major so soon.

On a side note, since masturbating supposedly ruins the effects of the programs, I've had to look into ways to deal with my sex drive. Currently the only thing I've tried that seems to work is holding your breath until you're on the verge on passing out. If I find something more reasonable that works that'd be great. Or when I have someone to fuck I won't need any other methods lol.
Wow 3.3.1 is coming much sooner than I thought. I guess I'll switch over to that one on Monday.

So far my cleanse has been going well. Sometimes I just think my hormones are too strong because of how it affects my libido. Without someone to fuck that just gets annoying. But at the same time the point of the cleanse was to reset my hormones and make sure everything goes well with my training program and yeah I can definitely see a difference already. It's definitely been helpful for letting me know what foods are really helpful on a cut and what could help my bulks be even more effective.

I've sort of grown curious about the idea of cleansing in general. While on a cleanse, how do you know once you've been fully cleansed? Sure, you there's clear signs that the cleans is working, but what about knowing when it is fully done. Just a thought. Regardless, I'll be finished with the cleanse completely next week as 2 weeks was the maximum time.
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