06-01-2017, 02:30 PM
(06-01-2017, 02:06 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(06-01-2017, 01:57 PM)ReeZoX Wrote: Geezus, for the sake of it Sarge. Try out the whole hygiene thing. If it somehow manages to get you better result great, happy for you. Of course, you should drop off DMSI then as well so you know what got you the wanted results.
If it doesn't then would you be able to listen to us more?
I am willing to listen to you guys (I wouldn't be discussing this at all if I wasn't). I also wouldn't be keeping good hygiene if I wasn't listening and giving it a chance.
I just don't like having my experiences invalidated. chaos knows how that feels. Not good. And it's always for the same reason: so the other guy can keep his beliefs/blueprint of reality in tact.
EDIT: On the up side I think through all this I've discovered a reason why it might not be working for me: because I feel obligated to do it. There's no genuine desire to do it aside from thinking it'll get me better with women.
We are "invalidating" your experiences, not for the sake of trying to drag you down. But in order for you to see things for as they are. We all have been dragged into this society with certain beliefs by our upbringing, some are shared and some aren't. When one of us can't seemingly see the world as it is, we are here to help each other with that. That doesn't mean one of us has "all the answers". While Shannon seems damn close to it, I'm certain he still doesn't have the answer to it all. While some of us may want to keep our realities intact, I certainly wouldn't recommend this forum for that, we are all discussing this because we want to help each other. This forum/subs are destroying realities daily. I still haven't comprehended that time is not linear, so if one is silly enough to actually demand that their reality stays intact, don't come on this forum...
The reason there isn't a book which you want that shows every step on the journey is because no journey is the same. My journey may be similar to yours, but it is far from the same. So even if the specific thing that worked for me, it may not be working for you. So do not take it all for a 100% truth/false. The most important thing is that you understand the principles behind it, which usually is the problem for people not getting wanted results, they're seemingly doing "everything" correct. But they have failed to understand the principles behind them all. Because the principles are what usually show the truth behind it all. And this "truth" is what will get you results, not the specific action behind it.
A man pulling a woman's hair can be seen as (positively) dominating her, but it can also be seen as a man assaulting a woman. The specific action remains, but the difference is the intention and the principles behind these actions.
Regarding your question, if one can become a rockstar/celebrity while not showering - Yes you can. But you will not be one for very long.
For many different reasons, people can't stand your smell and that usual stuff. But also because it sends special signals. You're not thinking yourself worthy enough to smell good. You're not thinking of yourself highly enough to take a shower!?
That signal, yourself not being worthy enough is what will send people off. Not necessarily the specific part of not showering. The principle, in this case, is you are taking care of your body, yourself because you feel for it, "Because you're worth it". Not for the sake of getting better results of women, that's just a side effect.
That latest thing you discovered? Hell yeah, that's a reason pretty big one if you ask me.
And with that, ask yourself this question. "If I am doing everything I can in order to gain recognition from women and get laid. How am I not putting them on a pedestal?"