Virgin SM or WM

[Shannon]

If you want to lose your virginity...

and you are of an age beyond what most girls expect you to be while living with parents...

spend your money getting an apartment or renting a house, and then worry about SM. Trust me, that is a huge killer for sex.

Otherwise, WM is designed for allowing you to achieve a social freedom with women, and it is a "do whatever you want with them" type deal, but it requires some experience to take that to sex. SM is all locked and loaded, but if you try to lose your virginity with it, expect it to probably be "just a screw". SM isn't about a relationship or sensual sex or lovemaking, it's about raw animal lust and f*cking. Just exactly what you guys thought you wanted when I asked what o make for you. lol

[Ryan]

spend your money getting an apartment or renting a house, and then worry about SM. Trust me, that is a huge killer for sex.

Not entirely... I managed to do it from age 19 until 23ish when my parents said "this is not a whore house!" Lol. But after that point I was just able to find women with their own places... or cars worked on occasion. Most, even women in their 30's, 40's were not put off by the fact I was 23, 24 with kids my age on their own and I was still living with my parents. Hell, I even managed a relationship with a 36 year old for 2 years during this time. But surely your own place will make it all much easier

Ryan

[Shannon]

Ryan, just because it's possible doesn't make it a good idea. The older a man is when he lives with his parents - in the culture and mindset of the typical American woman - the less desirable he is for sex, kids, relationships or even socializing with. And the earlier he is out on his own, the more desirable he is.

Buying SM and trying to lose one's virginity while living with parents is like buying a 500 horsepower motorboat and then trying to pull a skier while you have a large anchor deployed. It makes more sense to spend one's money on getting one's own place to live first.

If you really want to lose your virginity while living at home, SM is probably your best bet. But it's not exactly ideal, or anywhere near as easy.

[waahbeta]

But in India here its like. Most lives with parents.
A joint family.
So basically SM won't b a good idea for us??

[jonathan4all]

But in India here its like. Most lives with parents.
A joint family.
So basically SM won't b a good idea for us??

In India, you don't bring girls to sleep before wedding if I am not wrong. So you and she will find other ways. I am sure there are lot of nightclubs and people hook up going to hotels late night. When you are horny trust me your brain shows you millions ways. This is not a challenge at all. But if you have your own apartment, the probability to hook up is always higher.

[Voytek]

But tell me, guys, what if you want to develop yourself in many ways. Isn`t a better idea to run WM and than SM? Does SM diminish WM effects or vice versa or may be they`re complementary?

[CatMan]

They're different by their very nature, Voytek. One is more open and broad in it's possibilities, one is tightly honed and amped up for sex itself. SM3 has more recent technologies in it as well, OGSF versus OF, NSFM as well, so many choose it for that reason too. I wanted SM3, running OGSF 12 months a year seemed appealing, amongst SM3's more obvious benefits with girls and sex. However, OF seems to be a great sub, and WM2 is the only sub sold by IML that HAS OF in 5G with bells and whistles. People seem to forget that! So, if running OF in 5G seems intriguing, then WM2 is a good sub to go for. You get 192 days of OF 5G, and all the women goodness alongside!

Since it appears that more than one run through of both AM and a magnet is necessary for good effects sometimes, I would recommend against doing both magnets. Pick one, and cycle with AM. Focusing more would likely give a much better result than doing all 3, especially since WM2 and SM3 are polar opposites.

[AlphaRomeo]

However, OF seems to be a great sub, and WM2 is the only sub sold by IML that HAS OF in 5G with bells and whistles. People seem to forget that! So, if running OF in 5G seems intriguing, then WM2 is a good sub to go for. You get 192 days of OF 5G, and all the women goodness alongside!

Cool stuff CatMan, did not know that, or if I knew then I have forgotten. Might run that baby after couple more cycles of AM-SM <- right combination, right now.
And so not to hijack the thread; based on your comments and to answer your original question jandro321, I am leaning even more and more towards recommending SM.

[Voytek]

CatMan, your post has convinced that WM is better sub for me to alter with AM. Also, I`m not so concern about sex, I`m pretty sexually atractive for girls and I want to benefit from OF 5G and improve my social skills and eager for socialization in general.

So jandro321, if sex is all what you want from women, go ahead and run SM. I personally want to have a fun with them and I still believe there`s sth more that can connect woman and man. May be I`m just pitiful oldschool guy but I don`t care, I`m good with that.

[Darkness]

If I was you I would use WM. It handles neediness, gives you intuition with women, helps you pass shittest, improves communication skills, improves your life over all,
You will become a socialite, makes you feel good about you, allows for adaptability , makes you comfortable and relaxed around women<~(this is most important way to feel bc you won't get anywhere feeling any other way), eliminates creepiness sensations, better able to connect emotionally with women, the bestest of all you'll be able to have fun with women and enjoy women and love women, and you can shift from just lust to lovemaking .WM=more freedom of action and as a virgin it touches these listed thing to first lose your virginity. Both SM and WM should be run two times by default , so run a program that improves YOU over all, and don't expect it to a magic pill accept it will take time. So exploit efficiently. WM will allow you to do that, then you can go SM to finish it off. Another thing if you have used porn a lot , you might want to consider getting OED as well just to be safe.

Sub-History: AM5.AM6.SM3.AM6.

[jandro321]

Thanks for everyones feedback, to answer Shannon, like I said already, living with parents in my country is very common, personally i don't even know anyone my age that lives alone, and people still get laid.
AlphaRomeo, Catman, Darkness and everyone thank you again for taking the time to help me decide.
I think I will go to SM, it just feels better for the things I am aming for, maybe in a few years I will do WM when I decide to commit to a serious relationship with a woman.

[Voytek]

jandro321, I hope your new SM`s mindset, attidute, traits, behaviour and lifestyle that you`ll attain, will not destroy your ability to connect with woman and to create good relationship with her. After all, almost all PUAs are emotional rubbish that aren`t able to... genuinely love. They are cripples who pretend to be happy with their lifestyle.

[jandro321]

Thank you Voytek, I hope that doesn't happen also, but I don't think it will. Never been a fan of PUA, and their view on life and women, so I think it won't happen.

[Voytek]

Thank you for your post, xcxcxc, I`ve found it very interesting and I fully agree with Ross Jefferies words. PUA methods are tools but it`s our choice how to use them. I don`t devalue PUA`s lessons but PUA`s attidute and lifestyle which is promoted by jerks who became `STARS` from pitiful assholes and now want to show how great they`re and they treat women like ordinary toys. I don`t hate them, they`re selfish kids (not all from them) wounded by their own stupidity, I hate this attidute and lifestyle promotion. Be wise and treat any woman and man with respect unless they lose it.

One more thing, I highly recommend dr. Paul Dobransky `Omega Male Program`, in my humble opinion, you`ll find all you need there. Prinicples no methods, lines, negs etc. Based on those principles you`ll be able to build your own masculine style which is so attractive for women. No cheating just your personality and natural behaviour power.