Shannon's Journal Discussion

[dissonance]

I think it's true for most women, that encountering a virgin is a rare and special opportunity just like it is for a man. In fact, some guys use it as a pickup technique, telling girls they're a virgin, which is why women get upset sometimes if they think you're too suave or skilled to be a virgin.

That's making me sort of looking forward to the moment I tell her I'm a virgin so I can see her reaction of excitement or whatever and also see how she handles taking my virginity LOL.

thanks for this new perspective.

[Shawn]

Significantly improved the ACSMA module. Added to APSX module.

Re-tag complete. Time for lunch.

Sometimes I wonder how you can remember all the abbreviations

[Shannon]

Not every woman will respond positively, but if she doesn't, Chuck her.

[Shannon]

Significantly improved the ACSMA module. Added to APSX module.

Re-tag complete. Time for lunch.

Sometimes I wonder how you can remember all the abbreviations

Simple. Years of working with them, and having their scripting notes to look at in the script. It helps get to the relevant section for adjustment quickly when the technology name is labeled at the start of the scripting section.

[JackOfHearts]

I remember one time alcohol over powered my fear of girls laughing at my inexperience in bed. It was a night out and we went to an after party. I was talking to a girl and the alcohol courage caused me to start rubbing up her thighs. She grabbed my hand and led me to her bedroom before i knew what was happening. I fingered and went down on her because i knew i was too drunk to get hard. I told her i was a virgin before and i remember when eating/fingering she panted "theres... No... Way... You... Can... Be... That... Good... At... That" and called me a "natural".

She wanted to **** the next morning but alcohol wore off and fear kicked back in. My inexperience and penis size insecurity kicked in and i left. I remember her complaining "but i wanted to take your virginity", she was literally crying in frustration when i left.

Point being, being a virgin wont stop you getting laid. Only your own self sabotage will.

Now its time to follow my own advice. Or for shannon to build that pe 6g sub

She was right you are a natural, past life experience, so it's not really natural you actually worked on it but you don't remember. I hope talking about past life is not against the rule. I will remove it otherwise.

[swisston]

According to the sources I take seriously, there is only one "The One", and there can be any number of the rest. I have encountered a relatively large number of mirror souls in my life already.

Then we need a manifestation sub for finding your One and Companion soulmates

That would be seriously life changing, and if manifestation takes a long time.... perhaps build it in to selected other subs like you do with OGSF.

[SargeMaximus]

I'm not using scare tactics. I'm telling you what I wish someone had told me when I was in your shoes. And what I wish Dave and Shawn and all the rest had listened to when I tried to help them. I don't need to help you, you're welcome to all the suffering you want. I just don't like seeing people suffer needlessly.

You do what you think works. But your level of understanding is making things seem to be different than they actually are.

You won't believe me for a long time, if you follow in the footsteps of Dave and Shawn. And that's exactly what you're doing, but hey. Some people need to learn the hard way.

Why don't women like me when I'm calm and content then? If that works, sign me up. I just haven't seen it. What should I look for?

I'm serious. I don't want to be angry (it's not my default) so the less energy I have to spend the better. But why is it the only thing that works?

You can be non-angry and hateful but still enthusiastic and energetic and fun etc...no?

Of course I can. I'm like this quite often but I'm sure I've said more than once that people don't like me when I'm like that. Also, with women, it doesn't seem to change anything. The only thing that creates the attraction is either anger, hate, or spitefulness.

[Light]

I'm not using scare tactics. I'm telling you what I wish someone had told me when I was in your shoes. And what I wish Dave and Shawn and all the rest had listened to when I tried to help them. I don't need to help you, you're welcome to all the suffering you want. I just don't like seeing people suffer needlessly.

You do what you think works. But your level of understanding is making things seem to be different than they actually are.

You won't believe me for a long time, if you follow in the footsteps of Dave and Shawn. And that's exactly what you're doing, but hey. Some people need to learn the hard way.

but Sarge by now even if we assume that aggressiveness hatred and

Why don't women like me when I'm calm and content then? If that works, sign me up. I just haven't seen it. What should I look for?

I'm serious. I don't want to be angry (it's not my default) so the less energy I have to spend the better. But why is it the only thing that works?

You can be non-angry and hateful but still enthusiastic and energetic and fun etc...no?

Of course I can. I'm like this quite often but I'm sure I've said more than once that people don't like me when I'm like that. Also, with women, it doesn't seem to change anything. The only thing that creates the attraction is either anger, hate, or spitefulness.

But if you come to think about it the aggressive hate bad ass approach has not led you also "to sucess". And i guess yiu have been trying for sometime now. I have this feeling you should keep yourself open to all possibilities. Take the toolkit approach: the what works approach. Try different stuff and go your way. Do not complicate things for yourself. A good way to start is not to go into endless discussions about things that sometimes do not deserve your effort. How about writing about the sub and what it does or does not do for you. I do not get that in your journal at all!!!

[SargeMaximus]

You can be non-angry and hateful but still enthusiastic and energetic and fun etc...no?

Of course I can. I'm like this quite often but I'm sure I've said more than once that people don't like me when I'm like that. Also, with women, it doesn't seem to change anything. The only thing that creates the attraction is either anger, hate, or spitefulness.

But if you come to think about it the aggressive hate bad ass approach has not led you also "to sucess". And i guess yiu have been trying for sometime now. I have this feeling you should keep yourself open to all possibilities. Take the toolkit approach: the what works approach. Try different stuff and go your way. Do not complicate things for yourself. A good way to start is not to go into endless discussions about things that sometimes do not deserve your effort. How about writing about the sub and what it does or does not do for you. I do not get that in your journal at all!!!

Good idea (not to get into it) but I don't think it's good to let people form opinions without providing them with the other side or standing up for my life experience.

I don't care if you (not you specifically, could be anyone) think that treating women well is the best way to interact with them, but don't tell me that doing so will get me better results when it hasn't. That's simply not true, and I won't budge on that FACT.

As for what the sub has been doing for me, I recently made a post to sumarize stage 4 of AM 6 and what I noticed. I thought I said all that could be said about it.

[RTBoss]

Of course I can. I'm like this quite often but I'm sure I've said more than once that people don't like me when I'm like that. Also, with women, it doesn't seem to change anything. The only thing that creates the attraction is either anger, hate, or spitefulness.

I think I read in your journal that you used to think people were faking their smiles, and didn't like you, IIRC. Then you found out you were wrong, that their smiles were genuine, and you were surprised. Any chance you could be wrong about your perception, here?

I've never had sex with a woman I treated poorly. I've only had 6 different partners, as meeting my wife cut me short at the age of 28. Every sexual encounter had nothing to do with being a dick. Confidence, yes. Getting in shape, yes (probably helped my confidence). Other than that, I was just nice, interesting, and knew how to make a girl laugh.

[Shannon]

Now optimizing manifestation sequences.

[Shannon]

So Shannon, With this MSI, especially the new one coming, I know you mention about attracting them no matter what we are doing, wearing etc etc

How far does this go...

Can I stop getting my haircut, working out, trimming my beard, going on sunbeds, buying nice clothes etc etc ?

There is apart me that does all this just because I think I am more attractive when I do them. But to be honest I dont want to care no more, I don't want to do things to be more attractive to attract women, as I know there are guys out there that don't trim beard, don't workout, have long hair etc etc and still get hot girls.

So me doing these things are making me be someone I am not to get someone that is not attracted to me but an image I have created pretending to be me.

I just want to stop trying to be someone I don't want to be, just let go and attract women that like me for me.

If not, I don't care no more. I would rather be me, the genuine me and attract a girl that likes me for my real self, then pretend to be someone I am not and attract a girl that likes me for this false me.

I feel like just being like **** you, take it or leave it, this is the real me.

I just feel like I am living a lie for women. And I dont want that no more. If it stops me attracting women, I don't care because these women I attract like that are not with me for my genuine self.

And there's always someone better in every single thing ln life you can think of, so why even be sucked into all the BS of competing or trying to stay "on top"

It just makes me so tired now of all this BS and I don't want to be apart of it.

If someone says you have to function in society this way. I say ***** you, why should I?

To be honest if a girl don't like me because I don't have muscles or my hair is not clean cut, or my beard looks messy or my clothes are not in fashion etc etc

I say go duck yourself bit/ch, I ain't being sucked into all that social media, Celebrity BS.

I don't want them fake girls anyway, I like the girls that can see past all this BS.

Girls that can wonder about deeper questions in life....like staring up at starz at night and wondering what is all this human life experience all about?

Not worrying about where to get her nails done or smashing her face in a cake of makeup or watching some stupid TV program like the kardashians, or pouting taking selfies, or taking a picture of her ass in the mirror to put on social media to get validation because "that is how the world is"

OK I am rambling, you get my point.

So I'll give you my second answer first, and then answer your actual questions.

And the second answer is... you will never find a woman who will make you truly happy until you stop faking who and what you are, because by doing that you're mis-aligning yourself with your desires.

The guy you "think" you have to be to attract women, will attract women, but will it attract women who are compatible with you? No, it will attract women looking for what you are pretending you are, which you really aren't.

So when you do that, you are false advertising to them, and then you end up attracting a woman who isn't right for the real you.

When you drop the facade and just let the true you come out, guess what happens?

Those women who are attracted to what and who you actually are show up, and the rest fall away. Tada!

I know it's scary to drop all pretenses, but it's the only way to really attract the women who are going to be right for you and genuinely attracted to the real you.

And now to answer your original question:

How far does this go...

Can I stop getting my haircut, working out, trimming my beard, going on sunbeds, buying nice clothes etc etc ?

Imagine that DMSI is like a magical cloak of sexual irresistibly in a fantasy game setting. Let's say as a guesstimate it gives you a +1 comeliness (good looks) bonus and a +3 charisma bonus.

Now, let's say that by being well groomed and well dressed and smelling good and being clean and showered, you get a natural +3 bonus over what you would have otherwise to your comeliness score. So now you let yourself go and ignore what you don't want to do, and then use DMSI.

Well you just took away your +1 comliness bonus for being well groomed by not caring about your beard and hair. And you take away another +1 bonus for not wearing nice clothes. Presuming you keep yourself clean you don't lose any comeliness or charisma bonus for that.

So whn you make this change, you take your current score and adjust it by -2 for the changes you make in being yourself, and then you adjust the end result by +3 for the bonus DMSI gives you.

Now I am just guessing at the values, and different people will assign different values because every woman is unique in her perceptions of you and her likes and dislikes. But you see my point.

Here's a secret for you: find a woman who loves your natural scent. She will love you regardless of how you look.

[Shannon]

I have tweaked the hell out of a number of modules in this thing... I am seeing consistently good returns on my modeling runs. Now it's time to double check one more thing and build.

[Shannon]

3... 2... 1... begin build of V2.2 of DMSI.