Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

I've had women get visibly frustrated from my 'rejecting' them (which was really just me not knowing how to seduce her properly aka "dropping the ball") but I've also had women try to help me seduce them. Maybe that's something you could add as well Shannon, persistence on the girl's part. And so long as you don't outright say " no, I'm not interested " ("safe" phrase maybe that breaks them out of the trance? This is too fun to think about) then she'll keep trying.

That doesn't work, unfortunately. Not for this type of program.

[Shannon]

What are the rules for using MIR and another 5G sub?

Also, I am very tempted to ask for s refund on one copy of grow taller. I would like your opinion on the journal. Do you think that the sub script will stay in waiting for the next growth spurt?

Either way Im sad and hope my older sons plates havent sealed. I think I will get a refund and possibly buy another copy after a period of E2. Hopefully this might clear resistance and let growth begin.

I think it's hard to know what effect it had based on how hard you were having it getting an accurate reading on his height. Negative values for the checks don't exactly inspire confidence. But I have seen that program produce surprising results in both directions, so who knows. Some people get results even after their plates are fused. Why would you ask for a refund and then buy another copy? That doesn't make sense.

[DarthXedonias]

I've had women get visibly frustrated from my 'rejecting' them (which was really just me not knowing how to seduce her properly aka "dropping the ball") but I've also had women try to help me seduce them. Maybe that's something you could add as well Shannon, persistence on the girl's part. And so long as you don't outright say " no, I'm not interested " ("safe" phrase maybe that breaks them out of the trance? This is too fun to think about) then she'll keep trying.

I actually like this idea.

One other thing if it isn't too late. I was wondering Shannon if you could make it so that the Aura also gives the woman (though probably applies to men but too a lesser degree) a kinda of "emotional high" if you will. Even though I don't like David Deangelo that much I do remember him saying something that I distinctly agree with, that "emotions are the most addictive drug there is". I think this applies doubly so for women. Since she has this "emotional high" in your presence it would make her want to be around you when she can and she would have the right amount of emotional high that is appropriate at the time (she might have a different type of emotional high when you are having sex then when you two are watching a movie on a date, if that makes sense?). I mainly mention this for the guys who might enjoy being with multiple women but might have a few that they might want to see multiple times (whether dating/or sex). Who just don't want it to be a ONS type of thing only (maybe a multiple girlfriends/FWBs type of thing). I'm thinking obviously the "emotional high" thing would have to adjust to what shes comfortable with as well not to scare her off.

Thought I would suggest that, even though I have the feeling it might compound how much clingy or stalkerish the girl might get.. Probably??? Don't know if their might be some other unpredictable consequences as well since we are dealing with influencing a person's emotions, which by their nature are unpredictable at times.

[Shannon]

I've had women get visibly frustrated from my 'rejecting' them (which was really just me not knowing how to seduce her properly aka "dropping the ball") but I've also had women try to help me seduce them. Maybe that's something you could add as well Shannon, persistence on the girl's part. And so long as you don't outright say " no, I'm not interested " ("safe" phrase maybe that breaks them out of the trance? This is too fun to think about) then she'll keep trying.

I actually like this idea.

One other thing if it isn't too late. I was wondering Shannon if you could make it so that the Aura also gives the woman (though probably applies to men but too a lesser degree) a kinda of "emotional high" if you will. Even though I don't like David Deangelo that much I do remember him saying something that I distinctly agree with, that "emotions are the most addictive drug there is". I think this applies doubly so for women. Since she has this "emotional high" in your presence it would make her want to be around you when she can and she would have the right amount of emotional high that is appropriate at the time (she might have a different type of emotional high when you are having sex then when you two are watching a movie on a date, if that makes sense?). I mainly mention this for the guys who might enjoy being with multiple women but might have a few that they might want to see multiple times (whether dating/or sex). Who just don't want it to be a ONS type of thing only (maybe a multiple girlfriends/FWBs type of thing). I'm thinking obviously the "emotional high" thing would have to adjust to what shes comfortable with as well not to scare her off.

Thought I would suggest that, even though I have the feeling it might compound how much clingy or stalkerish the girl might get.. Probably??? Don't know if their might be some other unpredictable consequences as well since we are dealing with influencing a person's emotions, which by their nature are unpredictable at times.

Yep. There is a cost to everything. I can run it through the models, though.

[JackOfHearts]

Maybe it's just my age demographic or where I'm from but when I reject a girl I usually have to face some kind of consequences.

I have never heard of that. Do explain further.

Lol really? I guess you're not such the player you say you are. I mean the worst I've ever had it is girls sending other guys after me, but usually it's just them lashing out, in various ways.

I just think when you associate that kind of worth to yourself, things can get dangerous.

Lol, I love how it's the guys who get no results or who it seems they got no results who are so passionate and opinionated. Sorry to break it to you guys, but some of you aren't even close to being "alpha", or whatever it is you claim to be. And especially not at a 360% angle.

I'm surprised at you Shannon, I would think someone with the kind of experiences you've described and the years you've been at this, would have a better maturity level with other people's views, experiences, opinions.

I'm surprised at you, Banksy. When did I ever say I was a player? Just because I have had multiple females in relationships with me simultaneously, with all of them knowing about one another at the same time, and me having sex with them all, doesn't make me a player. Generally players aren't being honest and up front with all of the women they're involved in. They're "playing the game" of trying to "get away with something" by proving their skills by having multiple females at a time without any of them finding out. That's been my experience. I don't roll that way. I'm up front all the way.

As to my maturity level, that has nothing to do with this. You seem to be getting bent out of shape over nothing.

I have had girls lash out at me and even get violent with me and stalk me when I rejected them after a relationship went south, usually because they do things like get violent, cheat or are insane. But I have never had a woman get that upset if she approached me an I friend zoned her or rejected her. Just doesn't happen where I'm from, Amigo.

Shannon, you kill me. Girls always get upset when their expectations are violated. ALWAYS. If not, then it probably means they’re extremely shy or something. Like, it literally always happens that I reject a girl and she tries to get me back for it.

It really never mattered anyway, I didn’t plan on using this or any of your new subs, because honestly I think it’s a waste of time in my case. They don’t really work… for the majority of people, anyway.

"Always" lol it doesn't mean she will always manipulate her boys to go after you and not every women have boys that she manipulate on a daily basis. Your story even if it's true might happen only rarely when you know the girl enough. Even a very crazy immature girl won't go after you when you have rejected her at least when if you don't know her. Very few people are crazy enough to go that far with someone they just met, to be that mad she would have criminal tendency. Most women wouldn't have to confidence to go that far. So your story doesn't make sense unless you know the girl and play her game (manipulation) then at some point she may do it.

But first you say that Shannon subliminal would be too powerful without limiter then you say they don't work.

You also say you never planned on using any of shannons sub so why are you here? Drama?

[JackOfHearts]

He is not trying to discrete you, he is just saying what he observed.

[Lowe]

Lol, I love how it's the guys who get no results or who it seems they got no results who are so passionate and opinionated. Sorry to break it to you guys, but some of you aren't even close to being "alpha", or whatever it is you claim to be. And especially not at a 360% angle.

This seems a clear attempt to start a fight to me. What is with such a misdirected insult. Being passionate and opinionated does not mean we claim we are "alpha", it is called people voicing their opinions. If someone does not yet see results, why does it disqualify them from having an opinion?

It really never mattered anyway, I didn’t plan on using this or any of your new subs, because honestly I think it’s a waste of time in my case. They don’t really work… for the majority of people, anyway.

Why did you repeatedly asks Shannon to put limiters in AOSI and making a personal case for it then? If it is a waste of time and does not work then why be afraid of how strong its effects can be.

[kenpachi]

IME, when I reject women in my social circle they either:

1.) Don't speak to me again
2.) Immediately have sex with someone else to try and "hurt" me
3.) Gain new respect and giggle/blush every time they see me

I never thought about "fear of being sexy" being a thing, but I can see how it might be for some if they have never been considered sexy before. My fear is more a fear of being open/vulnerable, but being sexy does nothing but improve your life. The fear of it is irrational... but then I guess so is the fear of vulnerability so I can't judge.

Which brings me onto: is there any programming in AOSI that helps us become more vulnerable with women? When I get IOIs from women, I'll self-sabotage by telling myself I'm too good for her, or that she's lower value and needy because she's approaching me, but I realize it's me protecting my own ego because I am afraid to be open and be rejected.

Will AOSI have anything in there to help with that, or is it outside the scope of the program?

Also, will you be releasing the files in FLAC like you did for E2?

[Shannon]

So, does AOSI help you act on all this new attention?

It will be interesting to see how this subs changes things for me, as I do get quite alot of IOI's when out, but I rarely act on it for shut. There are rare circumstances when do and everything just flows into place. It would be nice if I did not hold myself back from acting on the attention I get.

What comes to mind for me is that...I don't want to give women validation through me acting on my attraction to them and then they can just reject me or blow me off. It makes me feel used or as if I have gave them something (which I did not have to) and they just take the buzz from the validation, feel better about their self and just move on.

I feel like when it's mutual, then they are my equal and are worthy of my attention. Do you understand and know what this is Shannon?

I just don't want to validate women, and this holds me back.

Also Shannon, does AOSI, deal with rejection in anyway directly or indirectly?

I understand if it don't, just curious.

There is scripting to act on interest and do something with it.

Yes, I know and understand that that is.

The program isn't about getting you to validate them. It does, however, include self validation.

And no, rejection is not handled. It's not really good to assume rejection.

[Shannon]

What are the rules for using MIR and another 5G sub?

Also, I am very tempted to ask for s refund on one copy of grow taller. I would like your opinion on the journal. Do you think that the sub script will stay in waiting for the next growth spurt?

Either way Im sad and hope my older sons plates havent sealed. I think I will get a refund and possibly buy another copy after a period of E2. Hopefully this might clear resistance and let growth begin.

I think it's hard to know what effect it had based on how hard you were having it getting an accurate reading on his height. Negative values for the checks don't exactly inspire confidence. But I have seen that program produce surprising results in both directions, so who knows. Some people get results even after their plates are fused. Why would you ask for a refund and then buy another copy? That doesn't make sense.

Because if I want to be eligable by your terms for a refund I must ask after 6 months of correct usage. If I put him on E2 and then back I will forfeit my right to refund.

Although I understand why you would want to discredit me, I dont appreciate it. I have been an active member here for more than a year and have been a profitable customer for you in the thousands of USD.

After your reply, yes I would like a refund.

Regards.

I'm not attempting to discredit you at all. I'm simply responding to what I observed. If you don't believe the program got you the desired results, you're welcome to a refund. What I was commenting on is that it is possible that, given your initial difficulties with getting a consistent measurement, that you may not have been able to accurately observe the actual results. That's why I am saying you can adjust body posture up to a centimeter in most cases, and the angle of the measuring device to the wall has to be exact.

When I was a kid, I learned that mom was happy when I grew and not happy when I didn't. So I would hold my breath because that made me taller.

I'm not saying your kids do that, but it demonstrates how body posture alone can significantly affect height.

There was no offense intended, so please, don't take offense at what I said.

If, however, you still desire a refund, you should send us an e-mail on the back end.

[Shannon]

IME, when I reject women in my social circle they either:

1.) Don't speak to me again
2.) Immediately have sex with someone else to try and "hurt" me
3.) Gain new respect and giggle/blush every time they see me

I never thought about "fear of being sexy" being a thing, but I can see how it might be for some if they have never been considered sexy before. My fear is more a fear of being open/vulnerable, but being sexy does nothing but improve your life. The fear of it is irrational... but then I guess so is the fear of vulnerability so I can't judge.

Which brings me onto: is there any programming in AOSI that helps us become more vulnerable with women? When I get IOIs from women, I'll self-sabotage by telling myself I'm too good for her, or that she's lower value and needy because she's approaching me, but I realize it's me protecting my own ego because I am afraid to be open and be rejected.

Will AOSI have anything in there to help with that, or is it outside the scope of the program?

Also, will you be releasing the files in FLAC like you did for E2?

More vulnerable? No.

That's the sort of thing that is outside the goal boundaries of a program like this. It's designed to generate an aura, not heal you. We have other programs for that. Sounds like you should perhaps run one of them first? Although you may be surprised how the program affects you.

[swisston]

If it's not too late for a suggestion, could we include a libido booster? I always feel sexier when I am horny. And there's not much point having a sexy aura if you don't feel up to it!

[Shannon]

If it's not too late for a suggestion, could we include a libido booster? I always feel sexier when I am horny. And there's not much point having a sexy aura if you don't feel up to it!

There's a very good chance that this will have the side effect of being a libido booster because it's designed to flood you to overflowing with the kind of energy that makes people you are sexually attracted to want to have sex with you.

In all the experiments I have done in this direction, that has definitely resulted in an increase in my libdo.

[AlphaMind]

There's a very good chance that this will have the side effect of being a libido booster because it's designed to flood you to overflowing with the kind of energy that makes people you are sexually attracted to want to have sex with you.

In all the experiments I have done in this direction, that has definitely resulted in an increase in my libdo.

By how you described AOSI 5.5G, it's somewhat spectacular. Can't imagine AM/SM/WM/BASE in the next update.

In the mean time, let AOSI 5.5G amuse me