Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

I know subliminals are great and all, but I don't think they can help you move forward in a particular direction if you aren't already moving in that direction. What I'm saying is I don't think any subliminal can get you to change if you're not making the effort to change. take approaching women for example, say we have five guys 3 of them ALREADY APPROACH WOMEN, but they just want to make it feel easier and more natural, but the other 2 are virgins in their mid twenties who couldn't approach a woman to save their lives(this is where I fit in), perhaps came from a bad social background or out of fear of rejection or awkwardness or embarrassment or something. Now if all five guys listened to some 'approach women and overcome approach anxiety subliminal', the first three might notice that things have become a lot easier and they've started approaching women like crazy, started getting more and more dates. these are the guys whose testimonials you read online. these guys would say the tapes work!. but the other 2 would - to be frank - get absolutely no result(even if they wanted to approach women even more badly than the other three) because they ARE TOO SCARED TO APPROACH WOMEN and so were patiently hoping and waiting for the subs to help them start doing it out of the blue, in my opinion I find it hard to believe anymore that subs are capable of that kind of feat.. But this is just what I have come to believe though after trying out subliminals myself and observing how other people's testimonials are surprisingly positive while mine remains nil. So I'm open to your opinions on this though.

We have an open forum. That means people like you post posts like that and get heard on our forum. It's not all rainbows and nymphomaniacs, and the guys here tell it like it is. And that's how I know when the programs and technologies need improvement. But you can't say it doesn't work because it doesn't work for you. It just needs to address something you need addressed that I haven't yet advanced it to be able to deal with.

I've never known a man, who through subliminals started approaching women out of the blue without any prior experience with the task. In my opinion, all the people who have positive testimonials(being completely unable to take action but now taking action) here and there have either been paid or were already gradually working up to their goals so were gonna achieve those goals anyway with or without the subliminals.

Paid? The point of the forum is for me to get honest feedback on these subs so I know how to improve them. On top of that, we don't have the budget to pay for testimonials, and even if we did, neither me nor Andrew would allow it. Nobody gets paid for testimonials.

The people who have positive testimonials had success with the subs. How much they were doing other things is going to change with the person, but I think you're just having a hard time believing subliminals work and can't bring yourself to accept that they could work for other people.

don't get me wrong I know some subs work, the ones that just help you accept your abilities and inabilities and stop you from craving the desire to take action so you can be 'happy' with your hesitation to improve your life. But I haven't really found any subs that go as far as to breaking down your resistances to taking action, and thereby causing you to do things you wouldn't normally in your right senses(even if you conciously want to do those things but just can't).

I think you are projecting here. You haven't found any subs so far that break down YOUR resistance to taking action, based on YOUR usage patterns - we don't know what those are.

Hey guys, I'm sorry for being this frank. It's just how I feel. I guess I've just been frustrated by this life situation of mine. It's like everyguy around me is able to easily socialize and meet people, but I just shut down at the very idea. when I heard of a forum dedicated to people who use self help, I felt someone might know how I can help myself start approaching women. The testimonies here are like none I've ever seen before and really catch my attention in every sense. I'd appreciate any suggestions that really work, that really speak to my brain and tell it to let me change. thanks.

No apologies necessary for being honest and disagreeing. That's the point of having an open forum. We consider the positive and the negative, because all of it is useful.

It sounds like you are dealing with a lot of self blockage, and that's most likely going to be fear based at a subconscious level. So I suggest you consider something along the lines of EHPRA 1 or 2. V1 is a lot less smooth, powerful and effective than V2, but I can understand that you might not want to spend the money if you're not sure it will work for you. I'm sure the guys will have other suggestions.