Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

Shannon, when it comes to life goals and growth, is it possible that you can get worse before you get better? Or is getting worse a sign that you're not on your path?

I've been getting worse with women ever since starting to try and improve with them and I'm beginning to think I'm on the wrong path. What would you say?

Generally it is a sign that you're going the wrong direction in life.

Not always, but in my experience, usually. Most of the time.

Life's funny like that. You're welcome to have it your way, but your way doesn't change the world you live in. And if you want to go the wrong way, well, have fun. You'll be back when you figure that out. No matter how stubborn you want to be.

But, does that mean I was on the right path all along? I mean seriously: I've gotten worse with women as the years have gone on since discovering these subs. Does that mean I was right before and have somehow triggered myself to go on the wrong path? Does it mean that these subs are the wrong path for me?

I'm very confused.

What's the difference between before and after? Are you following a different philosophy? Trying to game them more, following the player mindset, the PUA stuff? There's a lot of possible reasons. What are all the differences between now and the start of getting worse?

Thats a lot of stuff to consider. The stuff that stands out the most is that I'm doing your subs for starters. Accepted a more 'natural' way of interacting with women while being more accepting of them and trying to not hate them like I used to. In fact, I've said many times that when I can let myself hate women they go nuts for me, but it's hard cause I feel guilty and everyone tells me not to hate them.

I'm sure there's more but that's just off the top of my head. I'm also more "idgaf" then I've ever been.

It's like all the advise I'm following is wrong. I'm starting to see I shouldn't listen to people, but I keep doing it for some reason.

Ah, I see. Well, it sounds to me like you're in a transition state. Not quite one thing or the other, and in-congruent in both. Women don't like that, it confuses and scares them. The solution is to keep going until you achieve whatever you've been working to achieve.

You may also be attempting to follow contradictory advice. Pick one direction, and double down on it.

Internal resistance to change also seems to be a theme for you, which is based in fear 99.9999999% of the time. What do you fear?