Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shannon]

Shannon can you explain a little bit how important non masturbation is on dmsi and why, how it helps the end goal etc?

Masturbation is the release of sexual energy, among other things. That sexual energy is both a form and source of energy, and a form and source of motivation to achieve sex.

When you have a lot of that sexual energy, you are motivated to do something about it. The goal is to use that energy to make yourself more sexually attractive. The way to defeat that goal is to jerk off.

DMSI is not designed to prevent you from socializing or approaching if you want to. It is designed to maximize how sexually attractive you are, and part of how it does that is by causing you to generate more sexual energy, so that there is more SEX in your aura with which to affect those around you.

The more sexual energy you have, the more sexually attractive and arousing you become, even without the help of DMSI. DMSI uses that sexual energy to achieve it's goals.

Masturbating interrupts that.

I agree! But what about masturbating without jerking off? The old Taoists and Tantrists equally have ways to pull that energy through the chakras while keeping the juice in the body. They believe everytime you ejaculate you waste some of your life energy.

This post violates Rule 4, discussing religion. Please refrain from doing that in the future.

When you expend the energy that drives you to achieve sex, or circumvent it, you reduce or remove the motivation it provides. If the goal of DMSI is to result in sex, then anything that reduces or removes the motivation to achieve the goal instead of hide is going to be detrimental. The question is, does that apply to what you're talking about?

[josh84]

Hi, i will keep the -41db volume for hybrid if i decide to try it again since got nothing out of hybrid, only thing i do believe happened is loss of interest in porn clips but that was using my computer with headphones as i always run the subliminal through the computer never through a android phone and always with headphones for all 5 loops and the volume was at 100% for a -41db reading i have to go down to 42%, which has allowed me to watch porn clips if i felt like it nothing really there preventing it even though 3.3 is meant to be stopping us looking at things like that i thought. Maybe the higher volume was working better on hybrid in my case?

I will increase the volume for masked on the next cycle, there is a part in ocean surf every 10 minutes where there is silence too?

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon with 3.3 you have self confidence and self esteem all included which is one thing im hoping will start working soon obviously after 1 cycle it wasnt going to change much but you have mentioned that 4.1 is a lot faster working then the 3.2 versions do you think it will take a lot less time even for strong resistors to start seeing changes in confidence?

Since something like FRM has literally never been done before... I can't say yet. But I believe it will, yes.

I ask because having that extra confidence would of been really good this weekend, i had thoughts of approaching women but still held back, but dmsi the women are meant to show us interest first too when we start to execute.

Just curious by all your tests that you run for people that resist a lot will it still take 3 or more months to start seeing big changes and external results from women?

I don't believe there is just one "level of resistance". It's not "resistant or not". It's a spectrum. The more resistant someone is, the more fearful they will be (in some way, at some level), and the longer it will naturally take to remove their fears. I think FRM v3.x should take 3+ months. I think 4.x should take less time. I don't have enough actual evidence to know, and I haven't modeled it.

I see a lot are getting good results from looks and confidence boost and more already so thought to ask, i am using hybrid trickling stream volume is quite loud but comfortable with headphones each night while awake for the 5.5 hours no other music or videos playing during that time so i end up doing some reading. Only exception to this was for 2 days had to use ultrasonic on the cruise as the headphones kept falling off.

So you're going for the "more is better" approach, which is likely why you aren't seeing results. Too much is just as bad as too little, just for different reasons.

Calibrate the volume such that you can only faintly hear the lowest levels of ocean surf, and the highest points are comfortably loud. That is your maximum volume. Try that for a week and see what happens. If you don't start seeing more results, then take it down one notch each cycle until you do.

Thanks shannon, i will try changing the volume on vlc media player on the next cycle, tonight is the last night of trickling stream hybrid and will drop vlc media player volume to 75%. After the 2 day break will move onto ocean surf hybrid and will try between 50 and 75% and see if the lower volumes will work better for me.

Just seeing that 12 of 15 volume is recommended and others having volume up loud is why i had been doing it that way but will decrease volume for the cycles from now on and see how it goes.

Would 10% decrease be equal to one notch on a phone?

A volume of 12 is recommended for Jake. Not for everyone. There is a high correlation between a volume of 10-12-13-14-15 for Beast, but I haven't tested DMSI, etc. I am recommending 12/15 to Jake because it is known across several different programs (Beast, MIR, ARA, USLM, SE, DNWS, GPR) to be the sweet spot for execution from resistant personalities when you are using a cell phone.

You will have to use a volume meter to know what the equivalent volume is for VLC, and you have to take into account volume at the source (speaker) and distance from speaker to ear. Even that isn't perfect because some phones have speakers positioned at different distances from their microphones, which may translate into a different volume than 12.

Interesting! How does that translate for iPhone users with no volume indication?

Reason #374 not to use Apple products? The only thing you can do at that point is to use an app like FrequenSee and estimate volume based on dB, but even that is not ideal because the speaker's proximity to the microphone is different on all phones.

[Shannon]

IM ALL FOR LEVEL 1!! Good Gawd,I"ve waited for 10 yrs for something like this to come along!! Im damn ready...lets go!! I feel like 'look how lucky we are to even have such technology available to us and at such a price!" IM ready to git it on! to git on with da "git git!!"
PS: What about ALL the people that will come,that will show up,that before have never heard of IML before? if USM is at a decent price as in 115$ more people would be willing to pay that than 500+$ for a program they've never used or even seen the power of IML to draw upon. I think sales wise USM at 115$ would be a win win for all parties concerned. Shannon,obviously has a business to consider as well as keeping as many customers satified/reasonably satisfied with the program(s) at hand. again I think Level 1 would be a total win-win for all parties concerned. Im ALL for it!!

UMS was planned for being $114.95. LTU is planned to be at least $500. The whole reason for releasing these child products after building LTU is so that people can hve the thing they want as an individual program at $114.95 instead of having to pay for all of them at once in LTU if they prefer just one title. So no worries, we're on the same page.

[Shannon]

Hi, i will keep the -41db volume for hybrid if i decide to try it again since got nothing out of hybrid, only thing i do believe happened is loss of interest in porn clips but that was using my computer with headphones as i always run the subliminal through the computer never through a android phone and always with headphones for all 5 loops and the volume was at 100% for a -41db reading i have to go down to 42%, which has allowed me to watch porn clips if i felt like it nothing really there preventing it even though 3.3 is meant to be stopping us looking at things like that i thought. Maybe the higher volume was working better on hybrid in my case?

I will increase the volume for masked on the next cycle, there is a part in ocean surf every 10 minutes where there is silence too?

Keep in mind, 12/15 is specifically referring to my experience using the ultrasonic track on an Android phone over speaker. It is not the holy grail or the end all be all of volumes. So use what works for you.

The primary ASRB applies to the subliminal part of the audio, not the masking track.

[ncbeareatingman]

IM ALL FOR LEVEL 1!! Good Gawd,I"ve waited for 10 yrs for something like this to come along!! Im damn ready...lets go!! I feel like 'look how lucky we are to even have such technology available to us and at such a price!" IM ready to git it on! to git on with da "git git!!"
PS: What about ALL the people that will come,that will show up,that before have never heard of IML before? if USM is at a decent price as in 115$ more people would be willing to pay that than 500+$ for a program they've never used or even seen the power of IML to draw upon. I think sales wise USM at 115$ would be a win win for all parties concerned. Shannon,obviously has a business to consider as well as keeping as many customers satified/reasonably satisfied with the program(s) at hand. again I think Level 1 would be a total win-win for all parties concerned. Im ALL for it!!

UMS was planned for being $114.95. LTU is planned to be at least $500. The whole reason for releasing these child products after building LTU is so that people can hve the thing they want as an individual program at $114.95 instead of having to pay for all of them at once in LTU if they prefer just one title. So no worries, we're on the same page.

Ohhhh Im so relieved,Im so relived that that is the case. I Need the help of USM so badly I cant tell you. IM willing to Do the leg work to make this all happen,as in working in tandum with UMS subconsciously, with my actions and my conscious mind. I've got sooo much to recover from and build,fianancially its not even funny. so thank you Shannon!! Im relieved. did I say relieved already!? Whew!! Keith.

[josh84]

Thanks shannon, since im not seeing results after 3 cycles on hybrid and 1 on masked should i continue with masked or go back to hybrid but go back to the higher volumes.

As you can imagine with all the work you have put in its frustrating when guys like myself are still subconsciously resisting dmsi, its frustrating as a user to not see any changes, if you have any suggestions on how to execute 3.3 would be good, and your frm is meant to be very smooth so there isnt much of a way to know if anything is being worked on but can assume something is without us knowing if we aernt executing?

I dont have dreams that i can remember like many others do so its hard to tell whats changing currently.

[Shannon]

Thanks shannon, since im not seeing results after 3 cycles on hybrid and 1 on masked should i continue with masked or go back to hybrid but go back to the higher volumes.

As you can imagine with all the work you have put in its frustrating when guys like myself are still subconsciously resisting dmsi, its frustrating as a user to not see any changes, if you have any suggestions on how to execute 3.3 would be good, and your frm is meant to be very smooth so there isnt much of a way to know if anything is being worked on but can assume something is without us knowing if we aernt executing?

I dont have dreams that i can remember like many others do so its hard to tell whats changing currently.

I recommend you try what you haven't tried yet - ultrasonic only format.

[josh84]

With ultrasonic as you mentioned before the 12/15 is what worked for you but for me it could be louder and effective? I just have to experiment with volumes to find what will work best.

Also if i use ultrasonic i can have movies and music playing over top as long as one isnt through speakers and other is headphones and it will still be effective?

Ive always used headphones and had nothing else playing but the subliminal track.

THanks for taking the time to answer these questions.

[firsthelix]

@Shannon any New Years plan this year? I imagine you are going to take a break of some sort from building LTU. In the new year I am looking forward to using UMS as I have to fears around money and scarcity that need clearing.

I don't really have any plans for New Year's right now. Since I am sick as of yesterday evening, though, I am already taking a break from building LTU.

I'm looking at turning USLM4 into UMS, and other things as well. I note that USLM3 causes my girlfriend to be more interested in success and accomplishment than sex, so I am going to try to make USLM4 not reduce normal interest in sex, and I was thinking I might try to create something for ultra success in weight loss and maybe another idea or two. But don't worry, that will come after UMS.

Having said that referring to USLM, by when approx. is DMSI 3.4 on the plate?

[Shannon]

With ultrasonic as you mentioned before the 12/15 is what worked for you but for me it could be louder and effective? I just have to experiment with volumes to find what will work best.

As far as I have seen, 12/15 on an android device in ultrasonic over speakers seems to be the sweet spot for getting cooperation from resistant types. That is not just testing with one person. So I would give that a good run. But it is possible that you may need louder or softer.

Now here comes the problem. To find what volume works best, you have to switch it up. How long do you use each one for? Use it for too little time, and the right volume might be overlooked. Use it too long and the time it takes to work through a reasonable number of options is excessive.

Also if i use ultrasonic i can have movies and music playing over top as long as one isnt through speakers and other is headphones and it will still be effective?

Yes.

Ive always used headphones and had nothing else playing but the subliminal track.

THanks for taking the time to answer these questions.

You're welcome. Hopefully we can find a way forward.

[Shannon]

@Shannon any New Years plan this year? I imagine you are going to take a break of some sort from building LTU. In the new year I am looking forward to using UMS as I have to fears around money and scarcity that need clearing.

I don't really have any plans for New Year's right now. Since I am sick as of yesterday evening, though, I am already taking a break from building LTU.

I'm looking at turning USLM4 into UMS, and other things as well. I note that USLM3 causes my girlfriend to be more interested in success and accomplishment than sex, so I am going to try to make USLM4 not reduce normal interest in sex, and I was thinking I might try to create something for ultra success in weight loss and maybe another idea or two. But don't worry, that will come after UMS.

Having said that referring to USLM, by when approx. is DMSI 3.4 on the plate?

2019 or 2020. That's the closest I can get right now. If you guys want it in 6G it is likely to have to be 2020, since it will take me probably 3-4 more months to get things developed to the point of achieving design spec, given the amount of programs I have to build at the same time. Then it will take me an estimated 4 to 6 months to mine Beast for the tech to create the 6G skeleton script. Then I have at least ASC 6G and a multi-stage custom job to do before I have any choice in building DMSI 3.4 if it comes out in 6G. So given that unfortunate reality, it most likely will be 5.5G, sometime in the next 3 to 6 months.

[Zane]

Shannon do we have to buy UMOP3 again if owned the previous version UMOP2?

[Zane]

Shannon Please take a look at this :

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Title...Focus-5-5G-