Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shawn]

Now the problem with your excuse, here, is that nowhere in DMSI do I tell you to be passive in seduction, stop trying to approach or seduce them, or anything along those lines. Your passivity is YOUR CHOICE, and has nothing to do with DMSI. It's designed to give you maximum freedom and diversity of choice and action. Seduce when you like, and let them come to you when you like. In other words, your excuse is, to put it simply, *****.

It's good to read that because when I was using it I got the impression that it was actively training me not to. Even with girls that serve me I usually chat to them, and on 3.2 I noticed I had zero desire to 'reach out' but they were giving me a better response, I just couldn't be bothered with that. It was similar when I went out. I'd go out and the good thing was I legitimately enjoyed sitting there and talking to my friends, where in the past i'd just go out to meet girls. But at the same time I had low desire to talk to girls most of the time on 3.2.

Guess it was some kind of fear based response. An observation is that making things more sexual can bring up more fear for me at times, like if i'm talking to them just normal for nothing I feel more comfortable. But with more of a sexual intent the fear comes up. So that would make sense.

The thing is though (let's not forget): DMSI IS supposed to get women to seduce us. So that implies we shouldn't have to do anything to get that result (especially since the "meet them halfway" programming has been removed).

There are many levels and shades of seduction. Her seducing you may involve you doing a lot of the work if she's really skilled at it.

You mean if she isn't skilled? However, the goal is still that you don't have to do anything so if she is not skilled the sub has to "tell" her what to do.

[SargeMaximus]

Yeah women seducing us, approaching us etc is in the product description. Nuff said.

@ DarkPlouf: You haven't used 3.2?! Dude, you gotta. It's WAY better than 3.1

[Nox]

I mean the more skilled she is the more work you do.

A woman seducing a man isnt the same as a man seducing a woman necessarily. Their approaches can be equally subtle.

Nuff said lol

[Williamx25]

@Shannon

I have a question that I posted in my daily Journal, maybe you could look into this?:

My question is: does lucid dreaming interfere with the program? I think this falls under the category mind shifting.

Lucid dreaming is not going to interfere with the program unless you are directing your dreams to contradict the instructions it is giving you. It is also done while you sleep, meaning that interrupting state shifting from the program isn't a concern.

I also practiced Astral Projection.

Not a concern.

Also a mind shifting state... Can I still practice this or should I completely stop and wait until the program is over? I did not achieved a lucid dream or astral projection during the program. But I was practicing it before I started this program on monday june 18th.

State shifting while conscious should be avoided while you are in a situation in which the instruction set can or otherwise would be executing.

Could somebody give me advice? Shannon perhaps? I quit meditating because of the mind shifting thing I want to follow the exact instructions. No substance abuse, no cigarettes, no alcohol, just me and my program. 1 loop per day.

Thanks in advance !

We have opened it up to whatever number of loops per day you like. The result is that many have found that 6-7 loops a day is much better for them in breaking through their resistance. One loop per day is what the models gave me as being best because it is a significantly powerful program, and not everyone will be able to handle, or needs, more than that. For the general populace, 1-2 loops should suffice. For the rest, most of you here for example, 1-2 loops a day is going to be what you use to prepare yourself to be ready for more loops. Most people here are here because they're exceptions to the general populace in some way; not getting the results they want, or not getting all the results yet. It skews the way things look, but you guys are not the general populace. So don't get the idea that the models were wrong; they're giving me data for the majority and over long periods of time to give me an accurate view of the Big Picture. You guys tend strongly to be outliers, not the "average person".

So feel free to try upping your loops one per week until you start seeing changes. And keep in mind, sometimes the first signs of success are a very strong desire to quit, and/or a very clever "argument" as to why you should. Don't.

That's great to hear Shannon! The program is working good at 1 loop per day for me. I'm feeling good. What also makes me happy is the fact that I can practice lucid dreaming and astral projection. I'm practicing on getting into a lucid dream and then i'll work alongside with the program to heal & clear my rubbish. I will also repair my aura and a bunch of other stuff. When you are in a lucid dream, the effects will be 10^20 times more stronger. And i'm directly in contact with my subconsciousness... If I encounter major resistance I could easily deal with that one in my lucid dreams. It will be resolved very quickly.

I'll make sure I don't interrupt with the program. Awesome! This will enhance my results even better.

[Shawn]

I mean the more skilled she is the more work you do.

Well, this doesn't make any sense to me.



However, I am curious if anyone of the people who were extremely exhausted on 1 loop tried 6 or 7 loops and did well. I am just asking because with only 1 loop I had to skip a day here and there because I was so extremely exhausted and I cannot even imagine having tried 2, 3 or 4 loops.

[Fluffy]

@Shannon, how would 7 loops of B "bootcamp" compare to A "Bootcamp", do you think?

Anyone on 7 loops of B?

[SargeMaximus]

I mean the more skilled she is the more work you do.

A woman seducing a man isnt the same as a man seducing a woman necessarily. Their approaches can be equally subtle.

Nuff said lol

Lol, true but again, that's not what DMSI is supposed to accomplish.

Taken from product page:

"Goal 1: [...] The aim of this goal is to get them to automatically notice you and automatically be magnetically and irresistibly attracted to you sexually, and then (to whatever degree you allow) have them act on that attraction by initiating and having physical sex with you (repeatedly, as of V2.0 and later). Regardless of what you happen to be doing, wearing, look like, etc. etc. This of course is limited by what you are willing to do in response to their interest and efforts to initiate and have sex with you."

[thor2014]

Day 28 DMSI A 7 Loops

I had dream where was I standing holding my sword. The general approached me and
smiled he said "you fought well in the last battle". The rest of the warriors smiled around me.

My mindset seems to have evolved from why approach women when they can hit on me first.

The general then continued "here take a bag of gold and go and enjoy yourself tonight". I took
the gold and walked away smiling.

Seeing the barrister from the coffee shop tonight nothing else to report.

[Shannon]

I mean the more skilled she is the more work you do.

Well, this doesn't make any sense to me.



However, I am curious if anyone of the people who were extremely exhausted on 1 loop tried 6 or 7 loops and did well. I am just asking because with only 1 loop I had to skip a day here and there because I was so extremely exhausted and I cannot even imagine having tried 2, 3 or 4 loops.

Exhaustion at 1 loop is likely to be as a result of resistance. 6 or 7 loops may very well break through that and result in... less exhaustion.

[Shannon]

@Shannon, how would 7 loops of B "bootcamp" compare to A "Bootcamp", do you think?

Anyone on 7 loops of B?

It depends on what you need, where you are in your journey, and your personality type.

[samba99]

Shannon,

Have you thought maybe the aura of confidence or confidence script is missing in DMSI?

True confidence is very different than the confidence one trying to show it to others

[Shannon]

Shannon,

Have you thought maybe the aura of confidence or confidence script is missing in DMSI?

True confidence is very different than the confidence one trying to show it to others

The issue isn't a lack of confidence scripting. It's a lot of fear triggering people to fight executing the program.

You can't be afraid and confident at the same time. So we have to kill the fear, so the confidence scripting can be executed. I'm working on the keys for that.

[Dmitry]

Shannon, what if to add some kind of "sandbox" or "virtual space" module for script execution in 3.3? What I mean is to direct subconscious to create some "safe space" for it to see/hear/feel that the script is safe enough to execute. I hope that I described it alright. You know that subc is creative enough to generate creative ways to resist and direct push is useless - subc is smarter. But if we show it (subc) that the script execution is safe, for example, by manifesting the situations then subc can see that its safe - it can give it a try, right? Learning how to effectively to execute the script.

And another thoughts. I know that your scripting is full of trade secrets so its unknown to anybody else except you so I would like to ask you: is there any SECONDARY GAINS solutions in DMSI script? Please, don't say that optimus engine is "doing everything it must to do" because for subc secondary gains are not an issue at all for subc. I consulted one client who got many secondary gains not having sexual relationship with women but his mental consciousness was very eager to have one. When we cleared that secondary gains (and that was hard ones, indeed) he finally manifested girl for relationship and sex. So, once again, is were any decent work with secondary gains in DMSI?

Guys, here is my good little technique to clear secondary gains, which I created for my clients to deal with secondary gains (surface work not deep but...) is to write down "100 benefits NOT reaching the goals for DMSI". 100 benefits you gain if you are not executing the script of DMSI. Example: "If I don't get the DMSI to work for me then I don't need to spend money to girls....If I don't get the DMSI to for me then no girls will leave me, because I don't have any" something like that.

[samba99]

Anyways I am realizing a pattern here
And here it goes,
Day 1: running DMSI 3.2 b US two loops with head phone
Day 1: tiredness whole day
Day 2: off DMSI _ extreme frustration
Day 3: off DMSI - normal feeling
Day 4: off DMSI - great execution plus morphine drip after workout with relaxing sensation on chest

Tomorrow is day 5, should I run 2 loops of US b again or observe what's going to happen next with the initial run 4 days ago?