Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Have at ye]

His post shocked me!

My knees have been getting a high frequency of pain when sitting doing my thing normally at work, and lasting awhile after. Nothing extreme like intense sports or something to warrant such discomfort and pangs of pain. Definitely out of the ordinary, and only noted the last few weeks.

I also get these awful what I call "locking" of my calf muscles. Very painful, horrible pain, can last up to 3 days at times. Like a super powerful muscle cramp, only in my calves. Forces me to use 1.25 legs for a few days. And strangely only strikes when I wake up, and do a little stretch in the morning, then lasting a long time after it gives me that first strike of deep searing pain and immobilising the leg. Just now getting rid of it, almost 100% again. Happens every few weeks or so. Back pain, killing normal range of motion and debilitating me, at times lasting for days when it strikes too. Same frequency.

May be something to consider now that there's at least 3 of us complaining of knee pain at a minimum. Makes no sense to me WHY this would happen though. But I don't know what is in the script.

I thought it was relevant to report on this due to his post, now yours. This may not be a coincidence as I originally thought.

Here's some food for thought:

These might be psychosomatic effects of healing, if you're using ver. A.

F. in. while my knees aren't complaining, I sometimes get a stinging, somewhat painful "pins-and-needles" sensation in my right foot (and other places, here or there - I'm reporting most of it in my DMSI journal if you're interested). I am, like, 99% certain it is healing-related, as I'd sometimes get sensations like these when I was doing hardcore energy healing work on my own (back on ver. 3.1).

Stuff like that also tends to happen when people suddenly decide to play around with their chakras using physical means of tuning (f. in. Tibetan bowls) and they're all out of whack. I remember my ex getting serious heart palpitations when she took part in one such session; and they would not let go for over 24 hours, too.

If you're experiencing psychosomatic effects of this kind when using DMSI, you might want to check out various sources describing what might be the emotional/"metaphysical" reason behind any issue, and check whether this applies to you.

Hi there, have at ye!

I actually just started listening to A today. Since release, I've used B. But it still could be something sub-related, I figured I'd post about it after hearing others feeling the same thing. As then it may not just be some random thing with ME alone. For A, I waited until the servers were back to normal, then downloaded A right away and got started . Going to check out what the new C&H can do for now now, I've given B 50 days.

I will take a look at your journal again. I don't remember seeing that in your journal and have read it. I'll reread, thanks a lot for reaching out. I appreciate it!

I didn't mention the pins-and-needles in my foot, but I do mention other areas of weird physical sensation/pain in my journal (f. in. liver - which has pretty much passed altogether by now on third week with ver. A - on ver. B it was very, *very* pronounced).

I guess that different people would get different wonky sensations, depending on the areas that need work in relation to the program. I did a quick Internet search on "knee pain" and the "metaphysical" aspects thereof and, if the information I found is correct, am not surprised that they'd be acting up in your case, for instance.

Probably it'd be best to consult a seasoned holistic medicine/Chinese medicine practitioner for solid info (preferably one who's also a trained M.D., but there's relatively few people like that, I guess).

The knee pain is mostly gone, but I'm a little worried about trying my knees out on a lower body workout.

I've also scheduled a session with a chiropractor, which I'll have in about one month. Both my knees are crackly now, instead of only the other knee.

A good chiropractor should know what's what.

BTW. I just remembered having weird stuff going on with my knees back on ver. 3.1 A. I was not the only one, either. They did not hurt per se, but felt somewhat brittle/wobbly for a time.

[josh84]

Hi, about the knee thing too my left leg knee felt very strange like a weak feeling which left me less motivated to go to the gym, it wasnt sore but a feeling like no strength in it sort of when dehydrated but my right leg knee was normal just happened on the left side for some reason. That was on 3.2a.

[samba99]

Shannon,
3.2b is really awesome a lot of internal alignment. Definitely can see results on some girls.

I have a question,

Does 3.2b deal with the target’s fear directly?

We can only hope to influence other people rather than control them. As much as the sub can try and help a person step through their fear, they have to be willing to take the steps.

So even if it was designed to influence them, it wouldn't deal with it "directly"

Edit: I agree, 3.2 is awesome. I'm loving it very much

How is dealing with fear directly is corntorling them?
If targeted A is really attracted but at the same time really scared to approach because of whatever reason, isn’t that something holding the program back?

[Shannon]

I have a question you may or may not be able to answer Shannon. I've been using google play app on android to play my subs. I've just had a look at the help and found this regarding .flac files, and also other formats.

"16 and 24-bit mono or stereo files supported
Files are converted to 320 kbps .mp3 files"

Is this important? Does it mean I will be losing important subliminal information from the audio output as i've been using .flac on this app. Could explain a lot if this is the case.

Never, ever allow anything to re-encode my subs, and don't do it yourself.

[Shannon]

Modafinil most def interferes with dmsi..... from personal experience.

Absolutely. Don't.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole?

Already did that. How about you tell me how you got past it anyway?

And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

DMSI is not about finances, it's about being sexually irresistible. If you believe you need money for that, then DMSI should kick it in through the Optimus Engine. Otherwise you're just finding ways around the instructions not to self sabotage.

[Shannon]

Untrue, very untrue. Alchemy is the process of hanging Negative Energy to positive energy and this is heavily used in systems such as Tai Chi and Chi Kung. Also this is already used slightly in Subliminals Such as Attract Positive Energy, E2 and remove negativity within.

And also, there will be safeguards in place. So the Subconscious won't cause negative events to happen to feed off of it.

I disagree with you that working on your own negative energy is the same as sucking negative energy from your environment to use it.

And I think you misread the salespages/scripts from the mentioned subliminals.

E.g. from Attract Positive Energy 4G:

I now and always remain completely unaffected by and unresponsive to any and all forms of and sources of negativity.

I now attract and internalize positive energy.

In that case you disconnect from negativity. That is some kind of shielding. Not using it. Attracting positive energy is not converting negative.

Same for the E2 salespage. No negative energy alchemy there the way you suppose it.

And the script of "remove negativity within" is disconnecting from your own negative energy and destroying your own negative energy. That makes sense but there is no usage of negative energy around you.

I am pretty sure that Shannon has good reasons to word it that way.
But lets see what his insights are on that topic.


P.S.: If you limit your suggestion to use negative energy that is within ourselfs to convert and power up the aura that might be ok. I only speak against using negative energy from the environment (as you also suggested in your initial post).

We're not interested in doing alchemy of the polarity transmutation sort. That's not safe to do without training.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

Hey Shannon, hope you're doing well bud.

1)I am not sleepy or tired when I listen to DMSI 3.2 A yet I was when I listened to B. I wondered if this tells you anything about me as a listener, perhaps that its proof the sub is working on me? Does this mean maybe B was working on me better and I should go back to B?

It means you were interacting one differently than you are interacting with the other. The one that made you tired was causing you to use more energy for some reason.

2)and so far its 52days no fap ONLY, so shall I increase the number of loops?

If you'd like to try 2 a day, go ahead.

I am hoping that there is some H & C taking place, but honestly after 52days I cant tell.

Well obviously I can't either.

3) Is there a chance the sub has stopped working and all im going to get is just no fapping? lol

If you're getting any effects at all, the sub is working.

4) I may after 1 month of A give 1 month of B a try again, so I only need to have 1 days break and then jump back and forth yes?

thanks very much in advance my friend.

Yes.

[samba99]

@Shannon

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole?

Already did that. How about you tell me how you got past it anyway?

And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

DMSI is not about finances, it's about being sexually irresistible. If you believe you need money for that, then DMSI should kick it in through the Optimus Engine. Otherwise you're just finding ways around the instructions not to self sabotage.

Interesting you saying this, because lately I have been writing down my goal list for the year months weeks and days too in regard to finance also having a tactic and strategy to approach them. In addition, I started actually writing down my daily journal. These two things turned out to be major game changer. For some reason I ignored them for a long time. I thought I had it all in my mind.

[THolt]

Hey Shannon
How is Beast 16 testing going?

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon
How is Beast 16 testing going?

B16 isn't being tested yet because it hasn't been built yet. I don't have time to work on it much right now.

It is getting a trickle of attention, and I do expect to build it in a month or two, but for the time being, I am focused on building focusfires for IML and the custom.

Oh, and this proof of concept experimental I am working on for a new type of approach to some sticking points.

B15 has been the least tested of the beasts, because of various factors out of my hands that prevent testing. But it did achieve 9/10ths of design spec on the 3rd test. Since then, I have only been able to test it once, and for all intents and purposes, it isn't worth the trouble to try to test any Beast until the circumstances change. Which is why I have not prioritized Beast 16 more.

[Fluffy]

@Shannon

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole?

Already did that. How about you tell me how you got past it anyway?

And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

DMSI is not about finances, it's about being sexually irresistible. If you believe you need money for that, then DMSI should kick it in through the Optimus Engine. Otherwise you're just finding ways around the instructions not to self sabotage.

Fair enough Shannon.

I have not told anyone this before but I can see how this will make me have issues in the future with DMSI.

When I sexually release I feel quite down and not myself for about a week, I feel "weaker" in terms of my emotions, I am not as emotionally resilient, not as sure of myself, less confident, less energy. Feels like a dark cloud over my head for a week. It don't make me feel good.

With my recent girlfriend, whom I am no longer with. I wanted to stay on semen retention, as I feel more empowered, confident, more energy, more emotionally resilient. Every time I released with her, P in V, I felt the above negatives also, so it happens whatever way I release, even sex with women. I have been playing with this and testing this for a few years now, its obvious.

When I think of having sex with a girl now, the first thing that comes to mind is, is it going to be worth feeling like crap for a week? If I am honest and answer this right now, no it is not worth feeling like crap for a week just to have a 5 second orgasm. Especially if I got to be tip top for all my other goals in life.

The dilemma is when I am on semen retention my sexual energy builds up higher and higher and I really want to have sex, so there is this battle of I want to release really bad, but I am going to feel like shit for a week, which will effect everything else in my life! And because it is the same however I release, even with a woman....this pretty much sucks

[Zane]

@Shannon

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole?

Already did that. How about you tell me how you got past it anyway?

And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

DMSI is not about finances, it's about being sexually irresistible. If you believe you need money for that, then DMSI should kick it in through the Optimus Engine. Otherwise you're just finding ways around the instructions not to self sabotage.

Fair enough Shannon.

I have not told anyone this before but I can see how this will make me have issues in the future with DMSI.

When I sexually release I feel quite down and not myself for about a week, I feel "weaker" in terms of my emotions, I am not as emotionally resilient, not as sure of myself, less confident, less energy. Feels like a dark cloud over my head for a week. It don't make me feel good.

With my recent girlfriend, whom I am no longer with. I wanted to stay on semen retention, as I feel more empowered, confident, more energy, more emotionally resilient. Every time I released with her, P in V, I felt the above negatives also, so it happens whatever way I release, even sex with women. I have been playing with this and testing this for a few years now, its obvious.

When I think of having sex with a girl now, the first thing that comes to mind is, is it going to be worth feeling like crap for a week? If I am honest and answer this right now, no it is not worth feeling like crap for a week just to have a 5 second orgasm. Especially if I got to be tip top for all my other goals in life.

The dilemma is when I am on semen retention my sexual energy builds up higher and higher and I really want to have sex, so there is this battle of I want to release really bad, but I am going to feel like shit for a week, which will effect everything else in my life! And because it is the same however I release, even with a woman....this pretty much sucks

Yeah, I remember this feeling of weakness that lasted for about week..Except that I fapped. This was last year. But I have been using 5.5G subs since past one year like MHS MLS ARA DRA..they all somehow managed to heal this directly and indirectly but on 3.2 its all new level.

It could be that u are using sexual energy builds "Highs" to disguised or camouflage ur negative emotions..You know like people use drugs to do that.."A" might do the job.

Man I cant believe that my beliefs were that much fucked up a year ago..

[Fluffy]

@Shannon

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole?

Already did that. How about you tell me how you got past it anyway?

And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

DMSI is not about finances, it's about being sexually irresistible. If you believe you need money for that, then DMSI should kick it in through the Optimus Engine. Otherwise you're just finding ways around the instructions not to self sabotage.

Fair enough Shannon.

I have not told anyone this before but I can see how this will make me have issues in the future with DMSI.

When I sexually release I feel quite down and not myself for about a week, I feel "weaker" in terms of my emotions, I am not as emotionally resilient, not as sure of myself, less confident, less energy. Feels like a dark cloud over my head for a week. It don't make me feel good.

With my recent girlfriend, whom I am no longer with. I wanted to stay on semen retention, as I feel more empowered, confident, more energy, more emotionally resilient. Every time I released with her, P in V, I felt the above negatives also, so it happens whatever way I release, even sex with women. I have been playing with this and testing this for a few years now, its obvious.

When I think of having sex with a girl now, the first thing that comes to mind is, is it going to be worth feeling like crap for a week? If I am honest and answer this right now, no it is not worth feeling like crap for a week just to have a 5 second orgasm. Especially if I got to be tip top for all my other goals in life.

The dilemma is when I am on semen retention my sexual energy builds up higher and higher and I really want to have sex, so there is this battle of I want to release really bad, but I am going to feel like shit for a week, which will effect everything else in my life! And because it is the same however I release, even with a woman....this pretty much sucks

Yeah, I remember this feeling of weakness that lasted for about week..Except that I fapped. This was last year. But I have been using 5.5G subs since past one year like MHS MLS ARA DRA..they all somehow managed to heal this directly and indirectly but on 3.2 its all new level.

It could be that u are using sexual energy builds "Highs" to disguised or camouflage ur negative emotions..You know like people use drugs to do that.."A" might do the job.

Man I cant believe that my beliefs were that much ***** up a year ago..

It's not the sexual energy that is the "drug", it's the orgasm. For me experiencing an orgasm and having that release, is what brings the downer.

Yeah same as certain drugs. Technically orgasm is a drug though right? How many chemicals in the brain are released? And how many are depleted?

I am a highly sensitive individual, so I am ultra self aware. I can only have one cup of tea and I feel jittery. That is why I only have one cup of tea a day. Coffee I can't touch with a pole.

I definitely do no think my natural sexual energy is a "high". The orgasm is a temporary high yes, which leads to depletion and maybe even release of other chemicals which brings the downer.