Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[EvolvingPhoenix]

That depends. How useful is it for a guy in his mid thirties? If it's only useful for people still growing then I guess how many people want it would be however many dudes on your site are still growing LOL

You guys.  Always asking me to do the next to impossible.  I've already explained that I don't know if it's possible to make people taller after they've had their growth plates fuse, but I'll do everything in my power to make it work in the next version.  We have to abide by the rules of physics though.  No matter how good my subliminals are.

Naw that's about what I figured. But if so, that's the answer I guess. Still, if you have a lot of users who are still growing, I imagine it'd be a pretty popular subliminal. Now if you COULD somehow make a guy like me grow taller, I'd pay for the program as soon as I could afford it hahaha it'd be hot selling for sure! But if not, there's still so much you're doing already that there's always too many programs to choose from LOL

[EvolvingPhoenix]

I want it too, but I'm over the age of 25. Do you think you can make it work for fused bones?

It is theoretically possible to adjust fused bones, but I don't know if it is actually something I could pull off.  I really don't know if I can make it work for people with fused bones.  If we were to attempt to make it work by adjusting your skeletal system, that would probably require a LONG run.  I mean LONG.  It takes 7 years for all the atoms in your skeleton to be replaced naturally.  If we guess that I can trigger bone adjustment, make it work as desired and then that I could somehow trigger lengthening of the bones in your legs - and I have no idea how that would be done if they're fused - we are most likely looking at a very lengthy process for fused bones, IF those things are doable.  I would estimate more than a year to produce noticeable results.

Who knows, maybe the subconscious has some trick up its proverbial sleeve that I don't know about, but my understanding of human anatomy is pretty good, and I'd say that it's realistically iffy at best that I could produce significant, or maybe even noticeable, height increase in people who's growth plates have fused, and if I somehow could, it seems most likely that it would require something between 1 and 3 years to do.

That is the truth as best I know.

DAYUMN! 7 years? Oh well, we'll see how things turn out. Sounds like some down the line stuff for sure though.

[ncbeareatingman]

When 6G arrives, don't forget UMS v3 + DRS, please

Amen to that !! Please!!
 That makes at least two of Us that view it that way Emiebou !!
 Thanks Shannon, also for giving some more information via Strider's question about Self Development, without giving too much away!
 I Love love the DRS!! its banging!

[Have at ye]

Yeah, the DRS is the bee's knees.

I always wondered why it was replaced with the grounding shield. I remember the rationale being that it's too energy intensive and detracts from the programs goals by being so, but I used DMSI 3.5 (which is an energy intensive program with its aura projecton and whatnot) with the DRS and I never found the DRS to be a drag on its effectiveness (by which I mean I got obvious results of both DRSing and DMSIng).

[Shannon]

When 6G arrives, don't forget UMS v3 + DRS, please

One of the steps to finishing the 6G skeleton script upgrade is to replace the Grounding Shield with DRS, or remove all integrated shields entirely, depending on what the models indicate is the best option.

I think the best choice is to remove the shield from the skeleton script and have it be a function of the key script.

[Shannon]

Yeah, the DRS is the bee's knees.

I always wondered why it was replaced with the grounding shield. I remember the rationale being that it's too energy intensive and detracts from the programs goals by being so, but I used DMSI 3.5 (which is an energy intensive program with its aura projecton and whatnot) with the DRS and I never found the DRS to be a drag on its effectiveness (by which I mean I got obvious results of both DRSing and DMSIng).

The Rationale:

1. DRS is much more energy intensive than GS.  That energy is much better put to use achieving the primary goal of the program, in most cases.
2. The GS should work just as well.
3. DRS tends to trigger certain types of psychologically damaged or immature people, who perceive everyone else as "not me and therefore fit only to be used and manipulated by me".  This group strongly tends to respond to getting back what they gave you by escalating, which typically results in a volley of serves and returns of increasing intensity which continues until the shield fails, or the receiver of the return breaks.  Neither of those two is a good thing.  They do this because they are operating from such a low level of awareness - literally pure, unthinking, irrational instinct - that they will happily self destruct before they stop trying to escalate in most cases.  Their perception is literally... "How DARE you attack me this way!"  Double standards are mandatory for these people to be able to maintain their deeply flawed world view.  Completely oblivious to the fact that all they got back was exactly what they gave/did to you!

[Have at ye]

Well, no. 3 is true, certain individuals in my experience did attempt to incessantly escalate after the initial shock of getting hit back wore off. Maybe there's a way to circumvent that?

[Shannon]

Well, no. 3 is true, certain individuals in my experience did attempt to incessantly escalate after the initial shock of getting hit back wore off. Maybe there's a way to circumvent that?

There is not.  The personality type that does this is too primal, instinctual and low awareness for there to be.  The only thing they understand is that either they are more powerful than you, or you are more powerful than them; and either you fear them, or they fear you.  The only thing you can do is literally to bring them within an inch of death, very very painfully, so they will come to fear you too much to try it again.  And then, they will constantly, incessantly, eternally test and test and test to see if you're still that strong and willing to do it again.

It's like trying to reason with an insect.  Not gonna happen.

[ncbeareatingman]

" So far, 19 goals have made it into the Self Development script out of 34. Still adding. This is gonna be goooood "

Yes indeed. 19 goals and growing ! The inspiration is building. Loving it !!

Anything added ,about self sabotage/blocking/or resistance? So that the TRUER SELF can come forth more and more?

[K-Train]

Hey Shannon, in regards to the DRS vs GS how does the Grounding shield differs in how it neutralizes people with this primal personality type? Wouldn't, in theory, they view the person using the GS as weak? Or does the GS just sap them of negativity?

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon, in regards to the DRS vs GS how does the Grounding shield differs in how it neutralizes people with this primal personality type? Wouldn't, in theory, they view the person using the GS as weak? Or does the GS just sap them of negativity?

GS takes their interference, influence or attack and sinks it into the ground.  They don't get any effect, and they don't get "attacked" by you (their words, not mine) because you gave them back what they tried to give you.  This incentivizes them to find someone else to try to influence, manipulate or attack.  The best way to get away from this type is to go un-noticed, and barring that, bore them into leaving.

[Shannon]

" So far, 19 goals have made it into the Self Development script out of 34. Still adding. This is gonna be goooood  "

Yes indeed. 19 goals and growing ! The inspiration is building. Loving it !!

Anything  added ,about self sabotage/blocking/or resistance? So that the TRUER SELF can come forth more and more?

We are focusing on developing positive things, like self consideration, etc. in the key script. Self sabotage, blocking and resistance is handled by the ASS/ART modules in the skeleton script.

[CatMan]

Hello, @Shannon !

Congrats on the release of OPHv2. Maybe this program can help for Arthritis? This new module sounds intriguing. I wonder what the future holds for it.

I'm curious, since it's been a little while now since release, have we had any information on how MEv3 is performing? I don't believe I've seen any journals on it yet, so I wanted to reach out.

Also, have you reached a decision on X4A-2000? I am VERY interested in it, but I'd need more info on how the process for it has gone, reports, and options to acquire it etc. I've been intrigued with what you've mentioned in previous journal entries. Just wanted to hear more about it.

Thank you for your time, Shannon. It sounds like you're continuing to make great progress towards 6G. Congratulations to you.

I believe it definitely has the potential to help with arthritis, but of course I don't currently have any testers who have arthritis, so I cannot say definitively just yet.

I have had no feedback on MEv3.

X4A-2000 has been in testing for I think the last 3 months now.  Testing is ongoing for two reasons:

1. We have only two people who can test it, and both are seriously involved in LTRs they want to keep, so both of them are the worst possible option for testing this program to see how it would respond to being used by the actual intended audience (guys who are free to actually respond to interested women).  This is why it's taking so long.  However, our only tester suitable for testing these won't be able to test until August, and testing will be over by then.
   
2. We are - in spite of all of the testers' efforts to resist the program and sabotage the responders - STILL seeing very impressive results, although not quite the testing goals yet.  This is why we will continue testing.  I believe that in spite of everything that has gone wrong or been done to shut down results or whatever else, we will achieve the testing goals within the next 30 to 60 days.  And given how bad the circumstances are with regard to the options available to us for people to test it, and how much is working against our success in achieving the program's testing goals, the fact that we are seeing impressive results regardless just blows my mind. 
   

Testing has come very close to achieving the testing parameters on five separate occasions so far.  In each case, the tester was forced to shut the woman down just before the test goal would have been achieved in order to prevent her from getting fired, cheating on her first date with someone else, causing a bar fight or some other similar situation.  We take moral, ethical and legal considerations very seriously when testing these things.  However, while these repeated situations give me strong confidence that X4A-2000 works and can and will achieve the design goal, I'm not going to charge Premium prices until we have at least one tester make it to that final step and achieve the testing goal outright.  I am confident we can achieve the goal, so I have authorized testing to continue through June and even through July if necessary.  Sorry it's taking so long, but testing this thing has been damned difficult given the circumstances and the limitations we face in doing so.  My testers have strict instructions to shut down any situation that is not ethical, moral or legal.

Beyond that, I cannot say anything else about X4A-2000 or testing, except that I am thoroughly impressed with what it has accomplished in spite of a virtual avalanche of things working against it.

Thank you for the congratulations, but we're not there yet.  I'm looking forward to eating a big old smoked tomahawk ribeye steak when I finish developing 6G.  I'm working on it as I can.

Thank you very much for the update on the programs, @Shannon .

I am very interested in X4A-2000, and am single. I also have an extremely similar situation as Diablo, to test it on. I'm currently using X4A-1511 on that situation. Given my background with women, and the single status, it could be fertile testing ground for the sub. I would be very interested and honoured to be a part of the process and to have potential to break through at last. Testing such a sub with people in relationships sounds like it's impossible to see if it actually works, so a single person is likely needed to see things to a full conclusion to evaluate. If it works for someone with my background, it should be more than effective for those who have more of a "normal" background. I would be willing to switch from X4A-1511 to it to evaluate it in this unique environment I have available to test in. It's definitely a solid testing environment to see what it can do!

Also, I am interested in Grow Taller in time too, just to add that on to your discussion with other members.

Finally, the Self Development sub, will this sub have a lot on "self validation"? That seems to be a point of struggle for many, including myself and chasing the validation of women. I've worked hard on that now, I believe I'm better with it now, but for a long time it was gripping. Overall, I find that sub to be very interesting. I think it could be so useful for so many people, by the sounds of it. A great book I read long ago, "No More Mr. Nice Guy" deals with a lot of concepts it seems to include. The sub reminded me of it for some reason first off. A lot of RP content pushes those tenets too. It seems like it could be a great sub for men to use, in particular. It could potentially change lives I think. I think you may have a very special program on your hands there, we'll see!

Just going to add some love for DRS. It definitely cuts down on the constant arguments, rude treatment and nonsense from one particular person it seems. The GS doesn't seem to, I've had several massive blowouts subjected towards me that were ridiculous and unneeded, exhausting, nonsensical. Gaslighting and other fun stuff always. Seems the DRS is the only thing that seems to quell them from memory. But it's been a long time since I've used it because it isn't included in more recent subs, sadly. It's missed though. Hopefully in the future it's SOP, for some annoying ones...it's just needed. They seem to only understand one thing. Your post on them is bang on from my experience. One-sided.

Thank you for all of your work. I truly hope I could be included to give 2000 some testing miles to give some feedback for you!

There's a ribeye in it for you if it helps me "execute", haha!

[K-Train]

GS takes their interference, influence or attack and sinks it into the ground.  They don't get any effect, and they don't get "attacked" by you (their words, not mine) because you gave them back what they tried to give you.  This incentivizes them to find someone else to try to influence, manipulate or attack.  The best way to get away from this type is to go un-noticed, and barring that, bore them into leaving.

Gotcha, thanks for that explanation! So, since counter-attack is not an option, and since we do need to be efficient with energy to power these new programs, then perhaps adding an absorption/draining shield would help? In this scenario, the user utilizes a shield that actively seeks to drain the incoming negativity from the aggressor and uses it to feed the program's execution. In such an instance, not only is the aggressor losing energy, but the "victim" or shield bearer, in this case, now actively gains from it. Potentially, wouldn’t this  dissuade the aggressor because now:

a) they're losing energy attacking the user
b) the user is not only unaffected but now even HAPPIER in the face of this opposition 

Is such an option possible or feasible?

EDIT: Perhaps even the "Black Hole Shield" would be useful.