Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[geotrouvetout]

Is MIR 3 only for people with an infection ? Or can it be used to reinforce the immune system in a general way ? (I cant find the answer on the description of MIR)

From the product description page:

"Another excellent use for MIR is to help you prevent contracting an infection you are exposed to.  To use it in this capacity, you need to begin using it before you are exposed to any potential infectious agent, and during and then after exposure.  For example, if you get into a cab and the cabbie has a flu, you could immediately turn it on and it would power up your immune system and reduce your chances of catching that flu.  You would use it for at least 5 days."

Thanks, but it is for short term use. Can it be for longer term, reinforcing the immune system on the long term ?

[geotrouvetout]

Thanks, i'm completing the orders now. Will be interesting to hear reports on MIR3.

Bought it also !

[Have at ye]

Interesting that MIR 3.0 includes the DRS. Makes sense though, based on my experiences.

[Benjamin]

Is MIR 3 only for people with an infection ? Or can it be used to reinforce the immune system in a general way ? (I cant find the answer on the description of MIR)

I'm not sure about this one, Shannon will have to respond to it.

Bought it also !

Just completed some orders. I couldn't reply to your pm as it says you have pm's turned off. I'd have thought being an admin would pass that or since you sent me a message. But you should get an email with your links anyway.

[geotrouvetout]

Is MIR 3 only for people with an infection ? Or can it be used to reinforce the immune system in a general way ? (I cant find the answer on the description of MIR)

I'm not sure about this one, Shannon will have to respond to it.

Bought it also !

Just completed some orders. I couldn't reply to your pm as it says you have pm's turned off. I'd have thought being an admin would pass that or since you sent me a message. But you should get an email with your links anyway.

Thanks Benjamin, received the mail with links. I did not my PM was off, as I received PM before from members. I will check

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon

You mention what mir 3.0 can’t do in the sales page, with regards to that would MIR 3.0 work for foot fungus- like at the sole/bottom of the foot and in between the toes?

Also you mention it would work for issues of the digestive system and worms- will things like this be handled by future versions of MIR- or would they need another specialized approach that you have not yet created?

[CatMan]

Hello Shannon.

Just had a few things for you:

1. Maybe the issue of "death" in the mind surrounding DMSI's design goal, is because you assume she "belongs" to another man/tribe, so if she approaches you for sex, and you are both discovered, it could result in banishment from your tribe (resulting in likely dying due to not being able to make it on your own) or actual death from another man or his tribe. Death in a literal sense, or in death of your line not procreating due to the experience. This is speaking from an ancient evolutionary standpoint, mind you.

2. Perhaps the fear of "death" in the mind surrounding DMSI's design goal, is because on some level you don't believe you are up to her standards somehow. And that will be discovered by her or the tribe, or other men in the tribe who may be competing with you in general or for said female, and you could be punished by death by the tribe or banishment. Death in this instance could also mean, the "death" of your line due to not procreating. Or you may actually be banished by the tribe, which would again likely result in death by being alone in the wilderness. Thinking again in an ancient evolutionary standpoint.

I used that ancient evolutionary logic above, because I assume based off your posts, that's where a lot of this "deep subconscious" lizard brain activity is still wired. And may ALWAYS be, seemingly.

3. Are you going to implement the Transformational Shield in the new DMSI? That may get around the "energy" issues with the sub you've spoke of. Even though I admit I don't get the whole energy thing, to be completely honest. Just a thought. If that won't work, the DRS would still be a good upgrade from the NDRS, which I feel should be retired now. Assuming those "shields" do work, then I can't see a reason where you'd rather have an NDRS than at LEAST DRS, if not the seemingly "best" one, TRS.

4. Finally, what did you mean by "it will also have adjustments to what its goals are based on how people reacted", on this post? https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-DMSI-...#pid233665 ...I hope that doesn't mean removing the design goal of people we're attracted to approaching us for sex. That wording made me nervous about things...lol...

All the best, Shannon. Thank you, looking forward to posts about FRM and DMSI very soon! Please stay safe.

(original post got massively buried, lol)

[Shannon]

Is MIR 3 only for people with an infection ? Or can it be used to reinforce the immune system in a general way ? (I cant find the answer on the description of MIR)

From the product description page:

"Another excellent use for MIR is to help you prevent contracting an infection you are exposed to.  To use it in this capacity, you need to begin using it before you are exposed to any potential infectious agent, and during and then after exposure.  For example, if you get into a cab and the cabbie has a flu, you could immediately turn it on and it would power up your immune system and reduce your chances of catching that flu.  You would use it for at least 5 days."

Thanks, but it is for short term use. Can it be for longer term, reinforcing the immune system on the long term ?

It is designed primarily for hunter-killer applications.  You can use it for reinforcement and prevention too, but I don't know how well it would do in that capacity if you used it long term without having anything to fight off.  If you are being exposed to pathogens during that time, it should be fine.  Using it when there is nothing to fight off is probably just going to use up energy without any results.

That said... Its a good bet you have at least one latent infection for it to find and kill.

[Shannon]

Interesting that MIR 3.0 includes the DRS. Makes sense though, based on my experiences.

It surprised me.  I thought that the models would tell me not to include it, but they repeatedly showed that it produced much better results.  That makes me wonder how much of disease is influenced by people weakening eachother through their subtle energy manipulations and attacks on each other, and if some infections might actually be caused directly by such things.

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon

You mention what mir 3.0 can’t do in the sales page, with regards to that would MIR 3.0 work for foot fungus- like at the sole/bottom of the foot and in between the toes?

If the circulatory system can access the fungus, it should find and kill it.  The problem with foot fungus is, it likely also lives in the layers of dead skin your body uses as cushioning.  So it may be able to kill some of the infection, but not all of it.  You would have to use it to be sure.

Also you mention it would work for issues of the digestive system and worms- will things like this be handled by future versions of MIR- or would they need another specialized approach that you have not yet created?

The digestive system, and worms are things it will not influence.  The issue here is that the immune system in the circulatory system simply cannot access certain places, and simply cannot effectively handle invaders that are beyond a certain size difference from themselves.

A lot of the research I did suggests that your gut microbiome acts as a large part of your immune system.  If that is true, then MIR v3 may be able to influence those "probiotics" (as they are called in yogurt - they're really bacteria) in your gut that are helpful in the same way it influences your circulatory system based immune system.  If that is the case, the gut microbiome may or may not be able to help with gut infections.  I am a bit skeptical of that, but it seems possible at least.

There really isn't anything I can think of that I could do that would change that about the limitations of your immune system.

[Shannon]

Hello Shannon.

Just had a few things for you:

1. Maybe the issue of "death" in the mind surrounding DMSI's design goal, is because you assume she "belongs" to another man/tribe, so if she approaches you for sex, and you are both discovered, it could result in banishment from your tribe (resulting in likely dying due to not being able to make it on your own) or actual death from another man or his tribe. Death in a literal sense, or in death of your line not procreating due to the experience. This is speaking from an ancient evolutionary standpoint, mind you.

2. Perhaps the fear of "death" in the mind surrounding DMSI's design goal, is because on some level you don't believe you are up to her standards somehow. And that will be discovered by her or the tribe, or other men in the tribe who may be competing with you in general or for said female, and you could be punished by death by the tribe or banishment. Death in this instance could also mean, the "death" of your line due to not procreating. Or you may actually be banished by the tribe, which would again likely result in death by being alone in the wilderness. Thinking again in an ancient evolutionary standpoint.

I used that ancient evolutionary logic above, because I assume based off your posts, that's where a lot of this "deep subconscious" lizard brain activity is still wired. And may ALWAYS be, seemingly.

Based on what I have seen, I think that you are over-ascribing ability to think to the parts of the brain that fear seems to most deeply originate from.  The parts we are dealing with have the awareness of a lizard, quite literally.  They understand hunger and thirst, drive to sex, drive to safety, drive to comfort/pain avoidance, and that's about it.  This is a very low level of awareness, a very instinctual and "dim" awareness, if you will.  It is survival only.  All the fancy stuff I have tried so far has failed to get at this level because it is not what I was aiming at with what I was doing.  But because it is the root of fear, and it is not being dealt with, when triggered it naturally it keeps responding with fear.  

If this is correct, then we have a very challenging situation on our hands, which is probably binary in nature.  It is either possible to shut down fear, or it is not.  If it is, there is very likely a very specific way to do it, which we haven't tried yet.  I disagree with those who conclude that fear is "hard wired and impossible to stop", because it always results from an assessment of the surroundings or an imagined threat.  In other words, it is always a reaction, not a constant or an innate state.  To kill fear, we have to stop the reaction somehow.  I think the key is very specific, and we just haven't tried it yet.  I believe I have some very good ideas in the pipeline for how to do this.  

3. Are you going to implement the Transformational Shield in the new DMSI? That may get around the "energy" issues with the sub you've spoke of. Even though I admit I don't get the whole energy thing, to be completely honest. Just a thought. If that won't work, the DRS would still be a good upgrade from the NDRS, which I feel should be retired now. Assuming those "shields" do work, then I can't see a reason where you'd rather have an NDRS than at LEAST DRS, if not the seemingly "best" one, TRS.

I had planned to run through the models no shield, NDRS, DRS, TAS and "some other shield type".  Then, whichever wins, gets chosen.  DRS seems like it could be very useful, but also potentially challenging.  There are types of shielding I have yet to build scripts for that may also be significantly interesting.  We shall see.

4. Finally, what did you mean by "it will also have adjustments to what its goals are based on how people reacted", on this post? https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-DMSI-...#pid233665 ...I hope that doesn't mean removing the design goal of people we're attracted to approaching us for sex. That wording made me nervous about things...lol...

All the best, Shannon. Thank you, looking forward to posts about FRM and DMSI very soon! Please stay safe.

(original post got massively buried, lol)

What I mean is, we are taking all of what we have learned from V3.3.2 and trying to find ways to improve and optimize what is working, and add to it in constructive ways.  Maybe remove things that are not useful, or have become depreciated in value as a result of newer developments.  

Your post did get buried, but I had it in a tab set to reply to regardless.  I just was too tired by the time I got done yesterday.

[AbundanceCH]

Shannon,

Can you post the link or send me the link to the colloidal silver you used?

There is no link.  I make it myself.  I use a high end ionic silver generator and then reduce it to colloidal silver.  And no, I don't make the yellow garbage that they show you how to make on YouTube, because if it's yellow, the colloidal particles are too big and its not safe to ingest.

Since there is so much BS going on with the FDA I'm not going to be selling what I make unless and until I can get a lab test verifying that it is what I believe it to be, and I know for sure that selling it isn't going to cause me problems.  But I can point you in the direction of the only true colloidal silver solution maker that I know for sure sells true colloidal silver (as opposed to ionic silver being marketed as colloidal silver) and produces very high quality true colloidal silver:

MesoSilver, sold by PurestColloids.com.  MesoSilver is expensive, but it is also supported by some very interesting scientific studies, like this one: 

Thank you so much for this info! I’ll get the one you recommended.

Do you have any specific instructions to achieve success with it? Or does one apply it where there is an infection several times a day and that’s it?

[Zubrowka]

Interesting that MIR 3.0 includes the DRS. Makes sense though, based on my experiences.

It surprised me.  I thought that the models would tell me not to include it, but they repeatedly showed that it produced much better results.  That makes me wonder how much of disease is influenced by people weakening eachother through their subtle energy manipulations and attacks on each other, and if some infections might actually be caused directly by such things.

It’s said that a strong navel chakra give you a strong immune system - fighting off diseases as well as other people’s energy attacks by having more clear boundaries. Wim hof who practice a type of Tim mood breathing work directly with the navel chakra and his breathing technique have been scientifically proven to improve your immune system - maybe could be interesting for you to research.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote from His journal:"
I have made some adjustments to the instructions for MIR v3. For Major infections, instead of 2 days on, 4 days off, it should have been 2 days on, 1 day off. That has been adjusted. Please make a note of it."

Me: How long is one loop,my guess is 1 hour & 24 minutes? 4 loops back to back right?

Good Post Zubroka!!