(03-17-2015, 05:18 AM)IceAlive Wrote:(03-16-2015, 11:24 AM)CatMan Wrote: I see some comments deriding SM3 and placing the blame on it for failing, and even on Shannon for overhyping it which I find insulting and also to be blaming externally.
Depending on the filters you see the world through you can find my quotation insulting. Or you can take a step back and notice it for what it was meant to be - purely expressing a personal disappointment that Shannon's enthusiastic prediction hasn't yet been confirmed to the high degree I preceived.
I was not being (passive) aggressive, though you seem to have perceived it that way. The disappointment is general and observational - neither directed at Shannon's work, nor towards those who may have not built a strong enough AM foundation. Again, it's observational - it's just how I observed things to be up until this point, which I expressed as an answer to the thread question.
I honestly wish you and everybody following it to get the aimed results following SM, and fill in this thread and journals with glorious snippets!
Hey man!
My post actually wasn't even about you per se, although I think you quoted the journal entry from Shannon to begin with. That's likely why you assumed it was about you. At least one person claimed Shannon exagerrated SM3 on purpose. I took issue with that and called it out as a copout for not doing AM instead of a magnet when they need it more, then blaming Shannon and SM3 when it inevitably fails. AM mastery is needed to be successful with magnets as Shannon has said many times.
At the risk of sounding rude...OBVIOUSLY...his journal entry was said in the spirit of a person owning AM's teachings using SM3...since that's a prerequisite of the magnets...somebody for example, limping through AM 8 hours a day, with massive resistance, expecting to be a sex god using SM3 "because Shannon said so!", is being a bit ridiculous and passing the blame away from where it needs to be, with themselves. AM mastery is needed for magnets to work properly, everyone on the forum knows this. Shannon has said often that he doesn't build massive six stage sets for fun, and that if he could combine them all into one program he WOULD. But, as it stands, AM mastery is required to truly get real benefits from the magnets, they're an extension of the AM program, it's the foundation.
It's a bit silly the journal entry has been blown this much out of proportion meanwhile the real issue is the person doing a magnet program when they clearly aren't ready, then blaming everyone and everything but themselves for the failure of the program. It just annoyed me when Shannon and SM3 were blamed is all.
I'll explore something else here now that may be of benefit:
I think some guys feel shame or insecurity about admitting they need to repeat AM a few times before rushing to go to a magnet, only to fail, so I'll try to help dispel that notion about themselves:
There's NO shame in having to do AM multiple times, Shannon has done AM many times HIMSELF, in the end, progress is progress, it doesn't matter what program it is...I think a lot of guys have an insecurity of having to do AM more than once before jumping to a magnet, it's like admitting they're "less" than others. Guys, we're all here for improvement, improvement is improvement, whether it's a few runs of AM before being able to handle the magnets properly, or BAMM 2.0. Don't compare yourselves to others, apples to oranges, different people, different lives, different upbringings, different traumas...improvement is improvement...progress is progress. If you advance to a magnet and you don't master AM, it won't work as well as you want it to. Remember Shannon's house analogy.
I feel my posts in this thread are repeating themselves now, no point continuing on so I won't post further on this as it seems redundant. Bottom line, you need AM mastery to advance to the magnets and really be successful. There's NO shame in repeating AM, progress is progress, improvement is improvement. If you choose to let impatience and denial about where you're at in development to dictate your path, YMMV, it'll be much harder to truly get the benefit from the magnet.
That's all folks. Nothing but love for my sub brothers, even if it's tough love at times haha!