SEX Panther: Dubls x SM3 ROUND 2

[Sickologist]

Yeah, these pua guys only create an illusion of success. I'm not sure I believe in a social hierchy, cuz I never wanted to be a part of that. And everybody is fucked up to a certain extent, I can easily spot weakness in others. Validation or not ain't that important, just get it done, whatever it is. You're probably better than you think you are.

What I'd recommend is to figure out your career path and strive to be the best you can be. It's a very elemental form of existentialism; you do what you want.

From there you don't have worry about social hierachies, cuz you'll meet people who are more or less like you. When you actually have something going on with your life, the majority of people(average) will hate you for it while the elite within your field will welcome you with open arms.

The world is a business after all and it's your job to state your value. The past doesn't matter.

[Dzemoo]

Yeah, these pua guys only create an illusion of success. I'm not sure I believe in a social hierchy, cuz I never wanted to be a part of that. And everybody is ***** up to a certain extent, I can easily spot weakness in others. Validation or not ain't that important, just get it done, whatever it is. You're probably better than you think you are.

What I'd recommend is to figure out your career path and strive to be the best you can be. It's a very elemental form of existentialism; you do what you want.

From there you don't have worry about social hierachies, cuz you'll meet people who are more or less like you. When you actually have something going on with your life, the majority of people(average) will hate you for it while the elite within your field will welcome you with open arms.

The world is a business after all and it's your job to state your value. The past doesn't matter.

i like your way of thinking very logical and simple

[Sickologist]

Thanks, but there's more going on than what meets the eye.

- I see where the guy is right now
- I see where he wants to be
- I relate a personal story for inspiration
- Make a simple plan that will get him there

Problem is, most people don't have a knack for reading between the lines. My friend warned me of this.

Take this forum for example, most members fit into one of a few categories.

1. The sensationalist. Blows whatever results he gets out of proportion, easy to see through when the protaginist sounds like Alice in wonderland. Get real

2. The compromising. They cater to each others weak perceptions which comes from heavy socialist values. Unable to see it themselves. Take a stand

3. The chameleon. Forever changes his ideology to whatever sounds hot. Multitasking is for the mediocre. Get focused

4. The newbie. There is potential, however it will be destroyed thanks to foul advice from other newbies

5. The new age guy. Believes in the law of attraction, content with being lazy. Cult like hippie movement. Just admit none of that shit works, ok?

7. The realist. Uncompromising personality. Bless you.

"so where's the dislike button?"

[Life]

Don't forget the "self improver" a person who disregards ideas that places them in a category and focuses on whatever benefit they soley get from posting here

[maxx55]

I'll tell you now that it's impossible to be at the top of everyone's "social hierarchy" or to be on everyone's top 5. Too many differences between people for that. No matter how popular, whether it's the leader of a country or a famous celebrity, no one is on everyone's "Favorites" list.

So yeah, meet the people that you want to have in your life and become best friends. Focus on your goals/career. You'll probably start attracting like minded people and be on their favorites list.

I'm speaking mainly from experience. I'm still in college, but back in high school I wasn't popular at all. I became popular in college, but it wasn't like it was a goal. I mainly wanted friends and after awhile it just dawned on me "Is this what popularity is like?" and I just realized I was popular. Back in high school, I thought being popular meant getting the hottest girls without trying and having a totally problem free life. In reality, I just had plenty of people to hang out with. It's not mind-blowing, but it is enjoyable.

[Dubls]

Good discussion

[Dubls]

Extra tired since beginning stage 2.

Libido is up but I'm not sure how much of it is the sub, and how much of it is the fact that I just got over being sick which allowed me to recover from being burned out at the gym. I will say that there are a couple of times where I played trickling stream and got surprise horny.

Increased attraction from women? Maybe. Haven't noticed anything beyond AM6+body results with one exception. I was at a clothing store the other day and the girl that approached me was absolutely fine yet oddly timid and nervous as she helped me—not what I expected from a girl that sexy.

There have been a few times where I'm stroking it and it seems like I'm lasting a little longer. Hope this continues to improve.

Lastly I notice my perception of sex and sexuality is slowly changing.

[Dubls]

NSFW





So I decided to masturbate after the gym. Something about all that test flowing through my body. Started with porn and hand. The urge to cum came a few minutes in [same old] but I squeezed my PC muscle and it passed. Turn off the porn and go to shower, and I decide to pull out the fleshlight. Well didn't I fuck that thing, in almost every position I could think of, for over 30 minutes straight?! Do you guys understand how signficant that is for me? It didn't feel real.

I want to believe it's all the sub but holding back my nut may have had something to do with it, although I didn't lose my erection which usually happens during a refractory period. Curious that porn and hand had me wanting to bust in minutes. But subtract the porn and add the fleshlight—which is like hitting the real thing raw i.e way more intense—and I'm fucking like a porn star. I wonder if the scripting signals the brain to distinguish between sensations and deliver stamina accordingly.

What an amazing experience. Hope I can reproduce it with myself and eventually with women. Hope it becomes the norm.

[Dubls]

Tried again last night and came in a minute. Hope is not lost though. I don't expect this change to show up and suddenly become permanent.

Some anxiety this morning. No conscious explanation for it. Could be resistance.

[Dubls]

I think the eye game stuff is setting in. I am more willing to make and hold eye contact with women. I feel less awkward when I'm holding eye contact with a woman and choose not to look away until she does.

[chaosvrgn]

What I'd recommend is to figure out your career path and strive to be the best you can be. It's a very elemental form of existentialism; you do what you want.

Reminds me of a particular... "system of thought" where the main philosophy is: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will."

It took awhile for me to grasp the concept, because it sounds rather left hand / diabolical in nature. It's not an excuse to do whatever you want to people and think you can get away with it. Essentially means that the best way you can show "love" to the world is by following your "true will," that thing--whatever it may be--that you feel you were meant to do.

[Sickologist]

It sounds diabolical because no one told us to think that way, school was like prison to me. When cons return to the real world they don't recognize it. Societies are built on a foundation that keeps the people in check. Now you can look at something like subliminal programming, that's a rebellious idea to me.

[Dubls]

I am by NO means an Objectivist, but chaosvrgn it sounds like you are describing what Ayn Rand referred to as the virtue of selfishness.

[chaosvrgn]

You'll find that academia and the public at large do whatever they can to discredit Ayn Rand. I'm not an objectivist either, but the academic world outright ignores studying her philosophies in favor for ones that don't make ANY sense. Why? Because objectivism threatens the socialist underpinnings that modern culture is built upon. Objectivism is about egoism, about recognizing your true value as a person and encouraging you to nurture your natural instincts -- but NOT for the betterment of man. It's for the betterment of self. Society benefiting is a secondary positive. This train of thought is scary AF to society, because you're essentially saying that you give no shits about being a "productive member of society," which means being a beta male, slaving away for an alpha male and being emasculated.

I've always been a natural sigma with strong alpha tendencies, and looking back at my 20s, it's hilarious at the lengths people went to push me into that beta role. In fact, the biggest problem I encountered was wondering why people seemed to love me at first (because I'm talented and useful) but always ended up hating me (because I'm so independent that I refused to give them my talent for free). At one point, I felt like the world was out to destroy everything I was.

Then I realized that it was. The average person will take, take, take without giving you ANYTHING. And then, when you have nothing else to give, they'll toss you aside and blame you for it. Say you didn't give enough and you're selfish for protecting your interests.

Selfishness isn't just a virtue. It's an absolute necessity if you want to be successful in today's world. It's why I don't blame Shannon for implementing AP code in the subs -- even if I don't agree with the actual implementation. I completely understand why. If he doesn't, people will take, take, take and leave him completely broke. And then, if IML were to shutdown, they'd blame him -- say his marketing was off, or he should've done this or done that.

The right hand path, the blue pill -- whatever you want to call it -- is consciousness suppressing and only leads to failure. The left hand path -- while infuriating at first once you see the true face of society -- is the true path to enlightenment.