SEX Panther: Dubls x SM3 ROUND 2

[Dubls]

I want to talk about sex drive.

My sex drive has declined noticeably from when I was 19 [I'll be 30 this year], and I feel like it should be higher. Though I get erections easily in the morning*, I rarely wake up with one. I had my total T measured a month ago and it was 580 ng/dl. Not extraordinary high or low. I'm in excellent health. I'm muscular and just under 12% BF right now.

There are so many advantages to having a high sex drive. Let's start with the obvious. High sex drive males are driven more than others to pursue physical relationships with women they are attracted to. They hone their skills and brave their barriers in order to meet their physical needs. They also fuck more—whether it's more partners or more rounds with the same partner—because they can and want to.

High sex drive males also have a propensity for achieving great things because they are known to sublimate their sexual energy into creative and profitable endeavours. There are many very successful men with high sex drives.

I want to enjoy all of those benefits. I can recall feeling that drive that comes from libido. So I've been thinking about what could be limiting my sex drive:

i) Exercise. Lifting heavy is known to have a positive impact on testosterone, but ironically it takes a toll on your body and I've noticed that on days between workouts I often feel sluggish, and it's like my libido is blunted in favour of recovery. I lift heavy 2-3 days a week, but when I do I go ham.

ii) Diet. I am cutting which means moderate calorie restriction, but I am careful about maintaining a controlled rate of fat loss. I still eat a lot and I also do not dip below a certain percentage of calories from fat, which can have a negative impact on sex drive otherwise. And I'm the cleanest eater I know.

iii) Testosterone. I think it could/should be higher for my age. Awaiting my Free T results.

iv) Confidence/Shame. I've written about this before. When I had those surges of confidence on AM6, my libido was firing on all cylinders. There is a powerful connection here. And it works both ways. Feeling ashamed of my body, but more so about the size of my penis and PE. There is an aspect of mental impotence. I'm keeping myself down, literally and figuratively.

v) Stress. Hesitant to add this because my life isn't that stressful but for good measure: I work retail. It's part time but even short shifts can be draining.

Now in terms of supplements. I've taken Vitamin D for the longest time because I live in Canada! And a D deficiency can have an impact on sex drive, strength, and energy, among other things. I also take 25mg Zinc every night.

I read a book called the Hardness Factor and have been experimenting with a combination of 3g Arginine and 100mg Pycnogenol daily. Nothing significant yet. Also got Horny Goat Weed which is a PDE-5 inhibitor like Viagra and Cialis, but significantly milder and all natural.

So obviously subs are only going to help with the mental—and I'm really interested in what SM is going to do for me here in terms of how that translates to physical.

What do you guys think about the whole thing?

[eternity]

there's an herb called ashwagandha that is a part of my daily regimen. it doesn't incraese sex drive in and of itself, but works on health aspects that contribute to reduced libido, thus increasing libido as a side effect.

although bro, aging is probably a factor you wanna take into considerable extent. I'm 26 and DEFINITELY have lower sex drive than when i was 19 and 'in my prime', it's just something that happens over time. the good news to that coin, however, is that maintaining optimum health can at least curb the rate at which libido decreases over time.

or another HUGE possibility is that your mind is putting its focus on your "low sex drive" as a way to bring up last minute resistance against the garbage removal process of stage 1 of SM3.

[Dubls]

That last part is interesting. This is day 8, and I have to say that the blunting of sex drive has become more pronounced over the last week. I didn't think the sub would hit me so quickly.

[Light]

That last part is interesting. This is day 8, and I have to say that the blunting of sex drive has become more pronounced over the last week. I didn't think the sub would hit me so quickly.

rest assured it is going to get worse!
the good news is SM3 is really working for you.

[MadTheReaper]

A thing that surely can help with your libido is to quit masturbation and porn. It works wonders for me.

[eternity]

Yes mad the reaper is right. My libido starts feeling crazy at around day 6 and 7 of nofap. It was way more intense and pronounced during sm3, as well. It's gnarly >=D

[Dubls]

I don't watch a lot of porn. Years ago I quit and experienced a period of withdrawal and limp dick. That's when I realized I had been addicted. I used porn as a way to deal with my urges quickly (sometimes 3-4x a day) in order to avoid women and continue to suppress my shame and unhappiness.

As for masturbation I've done the no fap thing too and I don't care for it. I actually quit porn and did no fap when I was trying to learn male multiple orgasms, which I didn't follow through with. I don't masturbate compulsively and I tend to reserve it for penis enlargement sessions.

[Dubls]

Signs of life?

I felt a little different at the gym today. The usual cuties who check me out were there, and I was less self-conscious about them noticing me.

[RTBoss]

Tongkat ali as well...5 day on/2 days off. I use the 1:100 extract sold by BulkSupplements on Amazon.

[Dubls]

Troubling news today. I don't want to go into detail here.

I'm going to continue the program for now.

[Life]

Yes, stay strong.

[Dubls]

Still at it. Not sure if anything is happening. 10 hours a day works so well with my life. It's what I can guarantee. Shannon says you should listen to the same number of total hours per stage, but I'll squeeze in an extra hour or two if I can.

Still dealing with the same thing from the last post. I wonder if it will affect my success with this sub.

[Dubls]

Yesterday at work I helped a girl who most men would rate between 8 and 10. I use that scale for context but I prefer to use 1 or 0, yes or no—I didn't come up with that btw. She was stunning and I was nowhere near as self-conscious as usual around girls like this. I noticed her beforehand and she turned twice to look in my direction. May not have been just to look at me, but she did and I'm adopting a mindset of assuming that women are attracted to me and so all their subtle, seemingly indirect shit is attention for me. So I helped her out and it was freeing not to be crippled by internal garbage-talk. I think she was into me too and the interaction went smoothly. I made her laugh with a little bit of personal disclosure. Most important I was comfortable. I imagined escalating with her and the usual shit feelings weren't there. Now I didn't feel like god's gift to women, but it was nice to feel differently than expected. I think the program might be poking through.

Oh and it was a lesson unto itself how sweet she was. Under different circumstances, I'd see a girl like this and assume she's way out of my league with the attitude to match, but this once seemed so accessible.

[Dubls]

This is repeating myself from the last post but it continues to be a fascinating development.

My vision is changing. What I mean is I'll see an attractive woman and she'll just seem so accessible. I'll think to myself, "I can have that." And there's very little resistance to that thought. So obviously there is a change in both the way I view myself [higher self-regard] and the way I see women [less special].

This is new territory for me. I'm used to feeling like less than the women that I'm attracted to and like shit because of the (perceived) shortcomings I'm reminded of; that I allow to hold me back.