Seems like the Magnets aren't all they're cut out to be.

[Acmeisto]

That guy that "missed his chance for 17 year old pussy" is pretty much one of the most successful guys on this forum as far as women is concerned. If he says that he didn't go for her because he didn't want her, I believe him.

The action is important, but some guys find success regardless. Read some old journals, there are successful magnet journals where the guys don't take any action and the girls come to them. Also, some guys who take action get results while not approaching.

I recommend Minititan's SM3 journal btw, its a classic.

Even the most successful guys do make mistakes that they will regret later on.

And of course, approaching is not mandatory to get results, I personally have a pretty good life with women, albeit I rarely approach. I just mean that it is better to go on your free time to out to socialise than stay indoors playing video games.

[Dzemoo]

you are speaking out of your perspective

a mistake for you isnt necesserly a mistake for me, it seems you come from a mentality to fuck as many women as possible no matter what quality they have, thats validation seeking through sex number of girls... i already saw it when you mentioned that you slept with 75 girls seriously no one cares with how many women you slept they could all have been ugly or not (like one banned user here when we saw pictures of the girls he fucked during sm and wm we were disgusted no salute for him) no amount of women can make you more of a man or more alpha its all about your decision, i stopped counting long time ago i think after the 20 or so it didnt matter for me anymore plus i dont want to fill my brain storage with informations about this women fuck and forget them

my time, my libido and my energy is limited i am at a point where i have to decide do i want to spend my libido and lust on this girl today or on that girl? if i spend 3-5 hours with this girl today i wont be able to spend it with this one and so on ...

so if i miss an opportunity then it is out of calculation or to make her invest/chase more or rise my value in her or other girls eyes and in my own of course, plus it can be equally satisfying for your ego to reject or turn girls down its not all about the dick

the second reason is i decided for myself 1 year ago that i dont want to sleep with girls that are less than an 8 anymore, my energy time and libido is not worth it and i can spend it rather on a hotter chick

[Life]

I know man, it's like I've already had sex with women on SM but when I come on this forum it's like I'm supposed to have fucked some random girl that's crossed my path. It's not only the power to say no but also being man enough to have the sexual power so that its on your terms and u get the most pleasure. What some people perceive as success is clearly different from others here and it just shows how far apart we are on the growth spectrum

[thor2014]

What is it about men who want to fuck as many women as possible for self validation ?. I can understand why Shannon is apprehensive about developing a product for psychic seduction. It could be misused by angry young guys who have suffered abuse in the past and now want a weapon to get women into bed. Which allows them to win the war of the sexes.

Sex Magnet I believe will give you the women you desire but its not going to work if you are full of hate and fear towards other people and to the opposite gender.

[Acmeisto]

My point is that if you are becoming great with women, then it is better to jump on any given opportunity. And usually, guys who are becoming with great women some of them start to chicken out, when life is changing around them. They start to self-sabotaging themselves, making up excuses like that girl is too young or I am too "tired".

Of course it is a different thing if you are already a great with women, getting like 10 looks from women in a dance floor, then it is not wise to fuck the fattest one. Better to look around and think. Why he got banned, by the way? And posting naked pics of your women, it feels like fun!

I don't believe in psychic seduction. Women are not like mindless drones that can be programmed to have sex with you.

[Shannon]

My point is that if you are becoming great with women, then it is better to jump on any given opportunity. And usually, guys who are becoming with great women some of them start to chicken out, when life is changing around them. They start to self-sabotaging themselves, making up excuses like that girl is too young or I am too "tired".

Of course it is a different thing if you are already a great with women, getting like 10 looks from women in a dance floor, then it is not wise to **** the fattest one. Better to look around and think. Why he got banned, by the way? And posting naked pics of your women, it feels like fun!

I don't believe in psychic seduction. Women are not like mindless drones that can be programmed to have sex with you.

You're not getting what psychic seduction is. Or, as I call it, subtle seduction. It's doing the things that trigger an internal state change within her that leads to sex, but those things that are being done are being done internal to yourself and then projected outwardly without a physical carrier.

Here's an example.

Let's say someone wants to have sex with a woman, and they know she's not interested in sex. How do they get her to want to have sex with them? They can do a lot of things, but in this case, what they would do is internally generate a state in which they passionately want to and are ready, willing and able to have sex, and the send the whole of that state to her in ways that result in her internalizing and experiencing it for herself. At that point, she may assume that it is her own state and act on it. It is still her choice, but now she feels the desire to sex.

All seduction is a persuasion method. You want X, and you want to persuade Person B to want Y in order for you to get X. Subtle seduction simply takes advantage of the fact that with the right knowledge, skills and some practice, we can adjust the emotional experience of those around us, which may or may not result in something we want. This same method can be used to help people heal, balance emotions, anger them, or a number of other things as well.

It is well that very few people know how to do this, and even fewer are capable enough to succeed.

[wolverine_i_am]

It is arguable that men are mindless drones too, cause we are easily seduced by women if they come up to us and start touching us sensually. :p

I can spike attraction in a girl pretty fast. The type of girls I prefer and have experience with, the Germans, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegians, etc, it comes from a place of knowing (having positive reference experiences) that I can attract them. So I'd just walk right up to them, give them 'the look' that I know she's mine, and hit her with a direct compliment. It's coming from internally. So because I can put myself into that state, it's transferred onto her and she feels what I feel too - thinking it's coming from herself. This is what psychic seduction is.

I need to practice that on local white girls too, cause I don't have as much success with them.

[Shawn]

My point is that if you are becoming great with women, then it is better to jump on any given opportunity. And usually, guys who are becoming with great women some of them start to chicken out, when life is changing around them. They start to self-sabotaging themselves, making up excuses like that girl is too young or I am too "tired".

Of course it is a different thing if you are already a great with women, getting like 10 looks from women in a dance floor, then it is not wise to **** the fattest one. Better to look around and think. Why he got banned, by the way? And posting naked pics of your women, it feels like fun!

I don't believe in psychic seduction. Women are not like mindless drones that can be programmed to have sex with you.

You're not getting what psychic seduction is. Or, as I call it, subtle seduction. It's doing the things that trigger an internal state change within her that leads to sex, but those things that are being done are being done internal to yourself and then projected outwardly without a physical carrier.

Here's an example.

Let's say someone wants to have sex with a woman, and they know she's not interested in sex. How do they get her to want to have sex with them? They can do a lot of things, but in this case, what they would do is internally generate a state in which they passionately want to and are ready, willing and able to have sex, and the send the whole of that state to her in ways that result in her internalizing and experiencing it for herself. At that point, she may assume that it is her own state and act on it. It is still her choice, but now she feels the desire to sex.

All seduction is a persuasion method. You want X, and you want to persuade Person B to want Y in order for you to get X. Subtle seduction simply takes advantage of the fact that with the right knowledge, skills and some practice, we can adjust the emotional experience of those around us, which may or may not result in something we want. This same method can be used to help people heal, balance emotions, anger them, or a number of other things as well.

It is well that very few people know how to do this, and even fewer are capable enough to succeed.

Isn't it what mirror neurons are about?

[wolverine_i_am]

Yep this is why it's possible to attract a huge percentage of girls that's said to be theoretically impossible. No matter what the guy looks like, it's difficult for girls to not respond positively to a high value alpha male. The girls around him feel what he feels about himself.

[dissonance]

It is arguable that men are mindless drones too, cause we are easily seduced by women if they come up to us and start touching us sensually. :p

I can spike attraction in a girl pretty fast. The type of girls I prefer and have experience with, the Germans, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegians, etc, it comes from a place of knowing (having positive reference experiences) that I can attract them. So I'd just walk right up to them, give them 'the look' that I know she's mine, and hit her with a direct compliment. It's coming from internally. So because I can put myself into that state, it's transferred onto her and she feels what I feel too - thinking it's coming from herself. This is what psychic seduction is.

I need to practice that on local white girls too, cause I don't have as much success with them.

What is "local"? Where are you located?

[Shannon]

Yeah, rsd talks about creating a state within yourself and then pushing it onto the girl. Its just mirror neurons.

Or maybe it's not...

[Dubls]

I can't believe this thread is still alive.