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[Dzemoo]

One thing to add is : PUA has evolved in another direction, far like what you have recognized. Negs, push-pull, cold-reading - yes they still use them to a certain degree, but have then placed huge emphasis in another direction - practical theory. Open, transition, vibe, bounce, close. etc. Internalizing this, just like any other sports, makes it infinitely easier to have relationships. Some days you just want to fvck, what to do? Chat up to women. No talking sensitive topics on POFs. Close her in a few words and get a date. Make connections and bring her to your place. That's all. You don't even need to be a magnet sometimes, just don't make any mistakes. You do not know game, you lose the date, REGARDLESS if you care about it or not. Again what I am saying is about results, not about your personal value of dating girl/living life in a certain way.

Back the reality, look at the guys who have got results in the forum. AFZalg. He gets banned because people get in his way too much, thinking that his beliefs are "incorrect", and that he shouldn't go out to "game" women. But guess what - He gets plenty of pussies in the end. His satisfactions come from going out and actually do something about his sex life, instead of sitting on his ass all the thinking and believing that he is the shit and women like him. In other words, he gets fun from laying chicks (as THIS IS what most people want from SM/WM), but NOT from passively waiting for women to come. You can still be a magnet and take actions, it does not infringe on anything.

The moment you think if she likes you or not, you could be sleeping with a few other girls already. Let go of the belief that you should not be taking actions. You are not a flower, nothing comes to you for free.

good post nothing to add

[SargeMaximus]

As I said before, somewhere, women don´t want to be the center of men´s life, they want a man who HAS LIFE! What kind of life you can have if you spend most of your time, energy and resources on chasing them? Dude,become an INTERESTING man who leads an interesting life. PUA is rather far cry from that for most women, at least for high quality ones. And don´t get me even started about AlfaG, or whatever his name was...

Picking up chicks isn't interesting? News to me.

[Ryan]

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[SargeMaximus]

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Yeah who knows, especially if I follow your advice.

[Ryan]

Well you would discover that if you ever put your dick in an actual vagina. Unfortunately, like the 14 year old boy who has never touched a naked woman... who knows when that will ever happen for ya

Yeah who knows, especially if I follow your advice.

Just keep on graphin', keep on graphin!

[SargeMaximus]

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[Ryan]

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[Benjamin]

Ryan cut the crap.. you aren't all knowing and coming and abusing Sarge and others isn't helping your cause. I've edited several posts because several of you are contributing to this and it isn't what we want here.

And for now i'm locking this thread as it's getting out of hand.

[Benjamin]

Back the reality, look at the guys who have got results in the forum. AFZalg. He gets banned because people get in his way too much

He wasn't banned, he asked me to ban him so he couldn't come back. In the end I told him i'd change his password instead so people didn't think he was banned.. guess they still do haha.