OFV4 Special Case Use; Digging Deep

[tolgaocal80]

Just bought ASR!!!

Super excited that I can use it as a sleep aid in conjunction with OF4. Going to use it tonight!

      Congrats   C. P. B.    I'm shure its going to serve you well.

Here's hoping!

In other news; it's possible that ASR conflicts with OF4 but I cant be sure yet. Today I had flashes of what seemed like the turbulence I felt when I ran Tranq B with whatever sub I was running at the time. I guess tomorrow night I'll find out as it'll be my first night back on.

Just found out that a lot of mental symptoms and some physical ones match up with what is called post finasteride syndrome. I did take finasteride for 6 months so this is a legitimate concern for me. Finasteride is a 5-AR inhibitor that prevents your body from turning testosterone into DHT. It affects more hormones than that but that's the target. Long story short, it can destroy or downregulate the androgen receptors in your brain and cause long-term issues. It affects libido as well and both of these are something that I had no idea about and I don't believe they had it in the listed side effects either. If they did I would have thrown it in the trash. Mine isn't as bad as others experience, which is akin to anhedonia for them so that's a small blessing. 

I guess now we find out how to fix it.

I wouldn't worry about that, back then I researched a lot about it and also user reviews, what I see is rare side effects and mostly temporary if you stop using it. though I didnt use finasteride

[StridingStrider]

ASR works very well for me. Hoping it wont cause issues with OF4

Keep us updated. I'm curious about running it alongside OF too.

[Chris P. Bacon]

ASR works very well for me. Hoping it wont cause issues with OF4

Keep us updated. I'm curious about running it alongside OF too.

Will do.

A quote from Shannon.
[quote] No.  It uses an entirely new concept to achieve its goals, which I have been slowly working on in the background since around 2017 or 2018.  FRM is turned off.[\quote]

ASR felt different for sure. The first time I played it I certainly felt what could have been resistance but at that same time it felt like ASR was tunneling through it and getting more and more of myself to cooperate. Interesting indeed.

I'm not sure what to think about ASR and OF together yet. It definitely is different but I'm not sure how to describe it yet. It doesn't feel as turbulent as when I tried Tranq B with a sub but we'll see over these next few days. One night isn't enough to really see if they work together. My initial impression is that 1 loop of ASR is actually more powerful than OF though. Not sure if it's interfering with it or not though. Time will tell.

[Shannon]

I have been using 7 loops of USM v2 Stage 2 alongside 15 minutes of ASR, and when I did 60, 45, 30 and 15 minutes of ASR, I could feel the effects of ASR not the effects of USM. So this new tech in the skeleton script may make it more obvious or may make it more powerful or both, I'm not sure. But the key script is what's based on the new concept, and this new concept does not apply to every goal, so it will not be used for every program or likely be added to the skeleton script. It can only be used for achieving compatible goals, of which I think there are perhaps 20 or less.

[Chris P. Bacon]

I have been using 7 loops of USM v2 Stage 2 alongside 15 minutes of ASR, and when I did 60, 45, 30 and 15 minutes of ASR, I could feel the effects of ASR not the effects of USM.  So this new tech in the skeleton script may make it more obvious or may make it more powerful or both, I'm not sure.  But the key script is what's based on the new concept, and this new concept does not apply to every goal, so it will not be used for every program or likely be added to the skeleton script.  It can only be used for achieving compatible goals, of which I think there are perhaps 20 or less.

Interesting. It's crazy to think that 35 mins of ARS can be more potent or obvious than 5 loops of OF. I'm finding that ASR is definitely obfuscating OF a bit, but not interfering with it. Today is the second day on OF for me and this is usually the best day in the 3 day cycle for me as far as feelings of stability and amount of fatigue. This morning I feel pretty good and quite possibly am experiencing a synergistic blend of OF and ASR? I think it's going to take a few cycles of this to really figure out what's going on.

I personally like ASR. It's fast acting and seems to ignore any kind of resistance instead of addressing it and still get subconscious cooperation. Sleep is deep and I am waking a bit groggy, but with greater feelings of rest. I've played 35 mins of ASR and a full loop and both seem to be equally effective so I'm looking for my minimal effective dose to dial in my ASR use so as not to use it too much. The only time I've stayed awake till the end of the loop was the first night I played it. Personally, ASR is a thumbs up on my book. 

[Shannon]

I started using ASR with OF last night. I fell asleep in about 4 minutes, and I woke up with an odd combination of the effects of a full body massage and some simultaneous tension in my neck and upper back. The tension dissolved shortly thereafter and succumbed to the feeling of the effects of a massage. Very interesting indeed.

[Chris P. Bacon]

I started using ASR with OF last night.  I fell asleep in about 4 minutes, and I woke up with an odd combination of the effects of a full body massage and some simultaneous tension in my neck and upper back.  The tension dissolved shortly thereafter and succumbed to the feeling of the effects of a massage.  Very interesting indeed.

That is interesting! What does that mean to you?

To me it sounds like ASR is, like you said, showing its effects over OF. 



In other news; it seems like OF and ASR at the very least don't full-on conflict with each other. Today could have been miserable if that were the case as I was working 10 hours. I'm having a hard time figuring out if they work together though. I think I'll do a few cycles of OF and ASR together and then do just OF for a bit and see what happens. 

Also, @Shannon, be safe in Florida. Hurricane Ian seems to be a big one. Saw some articles calling it the storm of the century.

[Shannon]

I started using ASR with OF last night.  I fell asleep in about 4 minutes, and I woke up with an odd combination of the effects of a full body massage and some simultaneous tension in my neck and upper back.  The tension dissolved shortly thereafter and succumbed to the feeling of the effects of a massage.  Very interesting indeed.

That is interesting! What does that mean to you?

To me it sounds like ASR is, like you said, showing its effects over OF. 



In other news; it seems like OF and ASR at the very least don't full-on conflict with each other. Today could have been miserable if that were the case as I was working 10 hours. I'm having a hard time figuring out if they work together though. I think I'll do a few cycles of OF and ASR together and then do just OF for a bit and see what happens. 

Also, @Shannon, be safe in Florida. Hurricane Ian seems to be a big one. Saw some articles calling it the storm of the century.

As far as I can tell, ASR seems to be working and OFv4 seems to be working also.  So that's good.

Thanks for the wishes concerning Ian.

[Chris P. Bacon]

I started using ASR with OF last night.  I fell asleep in about 4 minutes, and I woke up with an odd combination of the effects of a full body massage and some simultaneous tension in my neck and upper back.  The tension dissolved shortly thereafter and succumbed to the feeling of the effects of a massage.  Very interesting indeed.

That is interesting! What does that mean to you?

To me it sounds like ASR is, like you said, showing its effects over OF. 



In other news; it seems like OF and ASR at the very least don't full-on conflict with each other. Today could have been miserable if that were the case as I was working 10 hours. I'm having a hard time figuring out if they work together though. I think I'll do a few cycles of OF and ASR together and then do just OF for a bit and see what happens. 

Also, @Shannon, be safe in Florida. Hurricane Ian seems to be a big one. Saw some articles calling it the storm of the century.

As far as I can tell, ASR seems to be working and OFv4 seems to be working also.  So that's good.

Thanks for the wishes concerning Ian.

Nice, I'm not having the turbulence I had when running 2 subs, one of them being tranq b so I'm sure you're right about this.

My last night on last cycle I woke up with OF running and it just felt good to me. I have fallen asleep before ASR gets finished every time so I haven't been awake for OF for a few days. It was nice to that it felt good to hear it in my ears, even though ultrasonic isn't the most appealing sound if you can hear it.

For the past few weeks, I have noticed something interesting.  People, myself included most certainly pre OF, can talk from a position of fear and you can pick up on it. When you get some distance from fear you can really hear it from people. They may not be emotional about it and I'm not sure how I recognize it in people, but it's there hiding in plain sight. The first time I experienced it I was surprised. It's like the person is so deep down the rabbit hole of fear that they are blind to the level of fear they are exhibiting. I must have been in that state as well or I wouldn't be noticing it now like I am. 

It's a little difficult to see OF in action these days with ASR in the mix but I'll run it a few more cycles and then not run it for a few and see which one I like more.

[Chris P. Bacon]

So the first day back on I had a feeling while running OF. I was awake after ASR finished and it went into OF. As I was listening it felt like I got more in contact with my body. It was an interesting feeling and as the on cycle continued it began to be more of a "I want to be here" feeling, a desire to live in this body. I think OF is working on and addressing some fears on even living or at least the connection to my body. The results are just beginning and a little spotty as I have to be conscious of them to get some results, but they are there. I think it's going to take a little time to have it fully settle in. OF seems to keep on trucking and getting things done. I've been very busy and haven't been able to closely observe all that has been going on lately but I know it still keeps on going.

[Chris P. Bacon]

2nd day off. Yesterday and into today I started or have fully cleared the fear of other people's reaction/opinon about scenarios. I'm not fully sure if it's just for what I say to others or if it's for their opinions as well. We shall see as time rolls on. Interestingly enough, this felt cleared on a day off. I'm so used to subs clearing when you're using them that clearing during off cycle is still a somewhat mysterious feeling.

OF to a degree feels kinda magical, especially with ASR. It can feel like nothing is going on and then boom conscious mind, who is the last to know what's going on, gets the download and you really feel it "lock" into place. The fact that it's tackling a fear like the fear of other's opinions means that OF is hitting the DEEP stuff. I don't remember a time that I didn't have that particular fear.


Wow

[Chris P. Bacon]

First night on was last night. I'm starting to understand my state of resistance a little better. OF is good at masking some of the turmoil OF puts you through so it can be hard for me to pick up when I'm going through some resistance or bad days.

Starting to notice more negative thoughts and less motivation on bad days. It should have been obvious to me but here I am once again learning more about myself and the subtle ways part of me kicks and screams against the instructions.

I think it was because there is very little emotional turmoil that it took some time to catch on.

[Chris P. Bacon]

So resistance has continued and last night I fell asleep a little during ASR but woke up to my subconscious just being grumpy against ASR. I do not think it was ASR that was particularly the reason but my subconscious was just not happy. When ASR was done and went to the first loop of OF, the subconscious tantrum for lack of a better word subsided and I was able to fall asleep quickly and stay asleep.

I do not know how OF progresses in terms of fears but it has to be going after the deeper ones due to the amount of bad behavior on the part of my subconscious. Interestingly enough, for me, resistance seems to only be able to exist in my unconsciousness for lack of a better term. What that means is that for me to try to ignore it is counterproductive. If consciousness is like light, then resistance breeds in the darkness. If I observe my resistance then it quickly dissipates but I must hold my attention to it. This is not an optimal strategy for everyday life though. Also, as someone with ADHD, it is difficult to focus long-term on any one particular thing as well. Someone described attention as having "blinks" like your eyes do and ADD/ADHD people's attention ''blinks'' more often. It is a pretty decent way to describe it I think.

Anyways, other things help as well such as self-love and acceptance as well as being aware of the resistance. If I don't hold or stay aware of the resistance to some degree I will act out of it to some degree. That acting out for me personally is usually some form of emotional self-punishment or some form of not releasing the emotions onto others. In life, I've been one to resist lashing out at others from an emotional state. My family can sometimes bypass that desire but for the most part, it hurts me to hurt others. That does not make the emotions go away but it is usually enough to prevent collateral damage in the form of some sort of emotional outburst.

On the mental front, resistance has been very draining. I am thankful for caffeine as of late as it has been getting me through the tough days. Some days of resistance is like walking around with mental weights on.

Sometimes I feel bad for the scenario I find myself in. My subconscious hasn't received the best instructions from the most influential people in my life, myself included and it's trying to work with what it has; which is a pretty limiting belief set.

Personally, I haven't tried to blame subs too often because I know it's me and it would be very nice if I OF could clear out the mess of fear I find myself in. I am most likely going to run this as long as is necessary to get the big breakthrough.

[dissonance]

For me, this is all an experiment on trusting my intuition more. This is what I feel my intuition is saying but as far as if it's true or the specifics are correct is beyond me. It would be interesting to see one more OF before 6g because I feel that any resistance due to fear can be "drained" before it ever becomes a problem, thus making resistance a thing of the past for 99% of users. I feel like the ability to ramp up power as needed in this version of OF is the "second to last" step in OF's evolution.

When I think about what I'm saying I can't help but laugh at myself. I don't understand the specifics of any of this so I hope you will pardon my ignorance.

I appreciate your input regardless, and your recognition of your limits and your humility in the face of that.  I deal with a lot of people who assume they know what I am doing, or that they know my work better than I do.  It is refreshing.

This next few programs will be introducing some advanced new concepts which *should* be a huge step forward in preventing resistance before it can begin.  There are three major concepts that must be added to the skeleton script for this, one of which has found its way into the next program I release.  That program will be a test bed for that concept, and then in the next program I am going to add at least one of the other two.  I would love to just add all three, but one of these is so complex, so deep, so profound, that I'm still contemplating how to script it and put it into words.  It will also require a complete revising of the whole script structure, skeleton script and key script combined.  That is no small task, but if I am right, that step should leave us with only one major step left to get to 6G. 

That most complex of concepts in this three may require a month all by itself to implement, I don't know.  But while the end result will be much more quickly and easily built subs that are much more smooth, effective and high impact, I cannot truthfully say that I am looking forward to implementing that third concept.

Once that is in place and I have figured out how to make it work as designed, the only major step that should be left for 6G is to go through the entire skeleton script and optimize it.  That will likely require quite some time.  But 2023 is almost certainly the year of 6G.  Finally.

Are any of these advanced new concepts part of OFv4? When was OFv4 released again?