Mystic Pymp on DMSI 2.4→2.5→3.0.1A→3.1A/B→3.2A/B→3.3D→3.3.1D

[Mystic Pymp]

Not much hunger, here, other than baseline for me. I'm also losing weight (purposely). I've cut calories intentionally, and am exercising like a fiend. I don't find DMSI causing fat to melt off any faster than any prior cut I've put myself through.

I will report on my weight once I get home for Christmas and I will have access to my standard bathroom scale TM. To be honest I don't seem to lose much weight but I kept help but think I look much better nowadays. I mean my thighs are much slimmer and my manboobs are getting smaller. There seems to be a block in me which makes it impossible for me to get below 75 kg, probably because of fear of being attractive. Hopefully DMSI will help me with that.

[Shannon]

Not much hunger, here, other than baseline for me. I'm also losing weight (purposely). I've cut calories intentionally, and am exercising like a fiend. I don't find DMSI causing fat to melt off any faster than any prior cut I've put myself through.

I will report on my weight once I get home for Christmas and I will have access to my standard bathroom scale TM. To be honest I don't seem to lose much weight but I kept help but think I look much better nowadays. I mean my thighs are much slimmer and my manboobs are getting smaller. There seems to be a block in me which makes it impossible for me to get below 75 kg, probably because of fear of being attractive. Hopefully DMSI will help me with that.

I would bet that "fear of being attractive" is the child of something else, and that DMSI is working on it.

[Benjamin]

It's interesting how it varies for different people. Because for me going below 75kg is WAY too low for me. I got to 78kg and I was way too skinny for my liking, now i'm 88kg with a more muscle and i'm pretty happy at that weight and look alot better than at 78kg.

I seen that in photos I compared last night that I sent to a friend who was asking me for some gym advice.

[Mystic Pymp]

Day 18

It's interesting how it varies for different people. Because for me going below 75kg is WAY too low for me. I got to 78kg and I was way too skinny for my liking, now i'm 88kg with a more muscle and i'm pretty happy at that weight and look alot better than at 78kg.

I seen that in photos I compared last night that I sent to a friend who was asking me for some gym advice.

Well, I'm 75-76 kg now no when I stoop I have whole hand of belly fat I would like to lose. I guess it comes down to low muscle mass. Also I'm only 5'8'' so I'm not tall at all.

Ultrasonic does seem to work better on me, I will switch to it exclusively for the Christmas time to see what happens.

One thing that uplifted me recently is post I read on Red Pills forum. In general I feel quite down because I seem so childish and immature to myself but the guy there wrote how it is only in man's 30's when he reaches his highest potential and so "wasting" (I don't know which word to use, wasting seems too negative but given how much I'm missing on it might be the best one) your youth and early 20's is not that big of a deal. It is in the period I am now when a boy becomes the man and that is what matters. My past mistakes are holding me back way too much and bring me too much guilt and feeling of undeserving .

[robstar]

Day 18

It's interesting how it varies for different people. Because for me going below 75kg is WAY too low for me. I got to 78kg and I was way too skinny for my liking, now i'm 88kg with a more muscle and i'm pretty happy at that weight and look alot better than at 78kg.

I seen that in photos I compared last night that I sent to a friend who was asking me for some gym advice.

Well, I'm 75-76 kg now no when I stoop I have whole hand of belly fat I would like to lose. I guess it comes down to low muscle mass. Also I'm only 5'8'' so I'm not tall at all.

Ultrasonic does seem to work better on me, I will switch to it exclusively for the Christmas time to see what happens.

One thing that uplifted me recently is post I read on Red Pills forum. In general I feel quite down because I seem so childish and immature to myself but the guy there wrote how it is only in man's 30's when he reaches his highest potential and so "wasting" (I don't know which word to use, wasting seems too negative but given how much I'm missing on it might be the best one) your youth and early 20's is not that big of a deal. It is in the period I am now when a boy becomes the man and that is what matters. My past mistakes are holding me back way too much and bring me too much guilt and feeling of undeserving .

I got down to 68kg at 5'9.5 in my avatar. Yikes.

[Mystic Pymp]

I got down to 68kg at 5'9.5 in my avatar. Yikes.

Thanks... I guess? That was supposed to be motivational? If so don't worry, Bruce Lee is one of my biggest inspirations, he was exactly my height and he weight 60-65kg, depending where you read. If I will ever want to gain some muscle but not bulk I know exactly where to look

[Shannon]

Day 18

It's interesting how it varies for different people. Because for me going below 75kg is WAY too low for me. I got to 78kg and I was way too skinny for my liking, now i'm 88kg with a more muscle and i'm pretty happy at that weight and look alot better than at 78kg.

I seen that in photos I compared last night that I sent to a friend who was asking me for some gym advice.

Well, I'm 75-76 kg now no when I stoop I have whole hand of belly fat I would like to lose. I guess it comes down to low muscle mass. Also I'm only 5'8'' so I'm not tall at all.

Ultrasonic does seem to work better on me, I will switch to it exclusively for the Christmas time to see what happens.

One thing that uplifted me recently is post I read on Red Pills forum. In general I feel quite down because I seem so childish and immature to myself but the guy there wrote how it is only in man's 30's when he reaches his highest potential and so "wasting" (I don't know which word to use, wasting seems too negative but given how much I'm missing on it might be the best one) your youth and early 20's is not that big of a deal. It is in the period I am now when a boy becomes the man and that is what matters. My past mistakes are holding me back way too much and bring me too much guilt and feeling of undeserving .

That sounds preposterous. Here is an equivalent logic stated another way to make my point.

I am a gardener, and I know that my rose bushes should bloom for the first time between days 300 and 600 of their lives. I can care for them or not. If I care for them, they will bloom between days 300 to 600. If not, they will bloom between days 500-600. Does it matter if I care for them?

If I want the biggest roses, I need to care for them. If I want the showiest roses, I need to care for them. If I want the most fragrant roses, I need to care for them. If I want the roses that will sell for the highest profit... I need to care for them.

But I hear that it doesn't matter if I "waste" the "youth" of the rose bush because its "full potential" doesn't come until days 450 to 550.

So does this mean it suddenly makes sense to do stupid things instead of take care of that rose bush before it's full potential is reached?

Consider that much of a man's full potential is available to him much sooner than his 30's. It is available to him from around 17-18 onwards, if he is willing to get up and do what it takes. The problem with society these days is that we keep trying to claim that people aren't capable until Age X, and we're always trying to raise that age to "protect" them, but what happens is that people will not rise to their potential because nothing is expected of them. So whereas we had 14 to 16 year olds having kids and starting homesteads and farms 100-200 years ago in the United States, we now have those same ages acting and being basically helpless because now we expect nothing of them. The only difference here is what was expected of them. Back then, it was not an option to have the luxury of "I'm a kid. I'm can't do that." attitudes.

What this shows is that potential may not have reached it's peak, but capacity is still there to do a lot more than sit around and play games, and because society expects nothing of them, they don't try in most cases to achieve even a fraction of what potential they have, which costs them dearly later in life.

In fact it's gotten so bad in the United States that for decades now, we can send an 18 year old man to war, and we can train him to be a sniper or demolitions expert or a warrior of some other kind, capable of taking life with extreme skill. He can vote for who should govern him and he can get killed doing his job on the battlefield... but... sorry, he's too young to drink alcohol.

Um... guns and taking a life > drinking alcohol.

And if you think about it, even when a kid turns 18 and becomes a legal adult in this country, we still don't think of them as "really" being an adult. We still try to act like they're kids. But the truth is, when you take away that "just a baby" crap and start expecting adult things of them... they start maturing real quick.

Throwing away one's youth because your full potential capacity isn't reached until your 30s is an excuse and justification to be stupid and party more, IMHO.

[RisingSon]

Insightful post by Shannon.

"Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty" - Schopenhauer

I'm super glad I started the AM series in my early twenties. It might have been right at age twenty, actually. I take the position that society is degrading due to this coddling and actually regressing because of it! Bring on the hardship!

[Mystic Pymp]

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What this shows is that potential may not have reached it's peak, but capacity is still there to do a lot more than sit around and play games, and because society expects nothing of them, they don't try in most cases to achieve even a fraction of what potential they have, which costs them dearly later in life.

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Throwing away one's youth because your full potential capacity isn't reached until your 30s is an excuse and justification to be stupid and party more, IMHO.

Very well said Shannon and I agree with you 100%. I didn't mean to say I should keep wasting my life since I lives maybe 1/4 of it (although I guess I have right to it, it's my life after all to waste). What I meant and I think didn't explain well is that I have this feeling I wasted so much of it and it means two things:
1) There must be something fundamentally wrong with me and if one considers his youth his best time most of what I could have gotten from life is gone and
2) Since premise of the point above is false and everything is yet ahead of me I should not hold onto past mistakes and let them hold me down.

Did I screw up in my past, could I have done more? Sure, in retrospect the answer is yes. It doesn't mean the person (man? boy?) I was back then could have. He didn't know as much as I know now and wasn't even the person I am now. What I need to do now is to learn from those lessons past me learnt the hard way but at the same time not hold grudge or hate to myself for those mistakes. And if there was one thing my last post was to convey, it was that there is still more hope and more to experience than I realize. If anything it gives me no other option than to care for my garden as wasting even more of that potential would be unforgivable. It doesn't mean care for the garden will be easy, it wasn't easy thus far, but any other option is unacceptable.

To sum up: I didn't mean I can keep wasting my life because I still have time. I meant that although I lost much I didn't lose enough to brand my life wasted and forsake hope.

Or am I still thinking something wrong?

[Mystic Pymp]

Insightful post by Shannon.

"Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty" - Schopenhauer

I'm super glad I started the AM series in my early twenties. It might have been right at age twenty, actually. I take the position that society is degrading due to this coddling and actually regressing because of it! Bring on the hardship!

>>Insert bigass picture here.<<<

Isn't that why basically empires fell throughout history? Simplistic and historiographically outrageous view, I know, but there is unmistakable trend throughout human history. Reminds me so much of "Survivor's Guilt" by Rise Against:

"What are you talking about? America's not gonna be destroyed."
"Never? Rome was destroyed. Greece was Destroyed. Persia was destroyed. Spain was destroyed. All great countries are destroyed. Why not yours? How much longer do you think your country will last? Forever?"

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"You shameful opportunist. What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet then to live on your knees"
"You have it backwards. Its better to live on your feet then to die on your knees"

It's better to live on your feet then to die on your knees.

[Mystic Pymp]

I wouldn't post this but I think Shannon could possibly find this information useful so I decided to post it here anyways.

Right now I'm getting my greatest euphoria since DMSI 2.4 while drinking beer by myself and, most importantly in my opinion, making serious progress learning new programming language. No socializing, no girls, no sex, no nothing. Just me, some beers and new batch of knowledge I'd like to acquire and might be of great for me in the future. Any idea what is triggering it?

[Shannon]

I wouldn't post this but I think Shannon could possibly find this information useful so I decided to post it here anyways.

Right now I'm getting my greatest euphoria since DMSI 2.4 while drinking beer by myself and, most importantly in my opinion, making serious progress learning new programming language. No socializing, no girls, no sex, no nothing. Just me, some beers and new batch of knowledge I'd like to acquire and might be of great for me in the future. Any idea what is triggering it?

Knowledge is greater potential for money, status, power. Money, status, power all contribute to irresistible sexual attraction.

In other words, just as with AM, the correct path is not always the path straight to the goal. With knowledge of programming, one can achieve and create many things.

[Mystic Pymp]

I wouldn't post this but I think Shannon could possibly find this information useful so I decided to post it here anyways.

Right now I'm getting my greatest euphoria since DMSI 2.4 while drinking beer by myself and, most importantly in my opinion, making serious progress learning new programming language. No socializing, no girls, no sex, no nothing. Just me, some beers and new batch of knowledge I'd like to acquire and might be of great for me in the future. Any idea what is triggering it?

Knowledge is greater potential for money, status, power. Money, status, power all contribute to irresistible sexual attraction.

In other words, just as with AM, the correct path is not always the path straight to the goal. With knowledge of programming, one can achieve and create many things.

Makes complete sense, I wasn't aware this kind of programming is present in DMSI though. This kind of suggests my future life path, but I'll keep that to myself for privacy reasons.

BTW I started learning Ruby if anyone is into those sorts of things and I will let you know if knowledge of it will be useful for me in the future. Spoilers: I will

[eternity]

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What this shows is that potential may not have reached it's peak, but capacity is still there to do a lot more than sit around and play games, and because society expects nothing of them, they don't try in most cases to achieve even a fraction of what potential they have, which costs them dearly later in life.

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Throwing away one's youth because your full potential capacity isn't reached until your 30s is an excuse and justification to be stupid and party more, IMHO.

Very well said Shannon and I agree with you 100%. I didn't mean to say I should keep wasting my life since I lives maybe 1/4 of it (although I guess I have right to it, it's my life after all to waste). What I meant and I think didn't explain well is that I have this feeling I wasted so much of it and it means two things:
1) There must be something fundamentally wrong with me and if one considers his youth his best time most of what I could have gotten from life is gone and
2) Since premise of the point above is false and everything is yet ahead of me I should not hold onto past mistakes and let them hold me down.

Did I screw up in my past, could I have done more? Sure, in retrospect the answer is yes. It doesn't mean the person (man? boy?) I was back then could have. He didn't know as much as I know now and wasn't even the person I am now. What I need to do now is to learn from those lessons past me learnt the hard way but at the same time not hold grudge or hate to myself for those mistakes. And if there was one thing my last post was to convey, it was that there is still more hope and more to experience than I realize. If anything it gives me no other option than to care for my garden as wasting even more of that potential would be unforgivable. It doesn't mean care for the garden will be easy, it wasn't easy thus far, but any other option is unacceptable.

To sum up: I didn't mean I can keep wasting my life because I still have time. I meant that although I lost much I didn't lose enough to brand my life wasted and forsake hope.

Or am I still thinking something wrong?

I relate to this post so hard right now. lol.

Taking a good honest look back through my life shows me point blank that I wasted my formative years. But does that mean I am useless now? far from it, pal! For one, people like you and me are taking active efforts in identifying flaws -> repairing -> upgrading our lives. This alone sets us ahead of the game. Metaphorically speaking, if we wasted the first 80 days of tending to our rose bushes, we now have fertilizer for the garden that when applied on day 81, will partially make up for the first 80 days of abuse/mistreating the garden.

And especially the part where you mention any other option is unacceptable? This same feeling is permeating through my entire being and is manifesting as motivation/drive for success.

Nice to know that you're experiencing a similar breakthrough at a similar time.