Mystic Pymp on DMSI 2.4→2.5→3.0.1A→3.1A/B→3.2A/B→3.3D→3.3.1D

[Mystic Pymp]

DMSI 3.3D Day 8

Tiredness continues, I guess I'll have to just brave it through instead of waiting for it to pass. Nothing good will come out of complaining over it with nothing to show for it and the life obligations will not wait either.

For those of you who haven't notices Shannon released summary of kinds of resistance encountered. At least for me it's very informative and it made me realize some patterns I notice in myself these days.
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Frequ...-Spot-Them-

On more interesting news my female friend (the one who her boyfriend doesn't to do have sex with) send me today picture of her breasts in a revealing t-shirt complaining how her boobs grew too big and she doesn't have any comfortable bra. I have no damn clue why she does this, on the one hard she keeps complaing how she doesn't have sex in her relationship and how her boobs and gorgeous, one the other just slipped through information that she's not interested in sleeping around with other guys... Also she's quite touchy touchy, but she''s been like that since I remember due to her neurotic problems. I'll have to, jokingly at the start, confront her on the topic and maybe help her with her problems

[lano1106]

This is women talk...

A woman that talk about sex with you = she wants sex with you
A woman that says that if she comes in your place, nothing is going to happen = she wants sex with you
She talk about her gorgeous boobs and show them to you = she wants sex with you

The only thing that she doesn't want is the responsibility of it happening. She is a too good girl for sleeping around but... if it was happening and there is nothing that she could do to stop it from happening then maybe she would be ok (and secretly happy about it...)

my advice is don't bring up the topic on the table unless you want it to stop... Just let things happen and escalate naturally if that is what you want...

[DssMaster]

This is women talk;
- A woman that talks about sex with you = she wants sex with you.
- A woman that says that if she comes to your place, nothing is going to happen = she wants sex with you.
- She talks about her gorgeous boobs and shows them to you = she wants sex with you.

The only thing that she doesn't want is the responsibility of it happening. She is a "too good of a girl" for sleeping around but... if it was happening and there is nothing that she could do to stop it from happening then maybe she would be ok (and secretly happy about it...)

My advice is don't bring up the topic on the table unless you want it to stop. Just let things happen and escalate naturally if that is what you want.

I so agree with this. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've gotten laid by a woman that made it clear to me that "nothing is/was going to happen between us two". I used to mess it all up when I complained to them as to why not, etc., not realizing that it is a form of sh!t test to see your reaction. When I finally learned not to be so concentrated on the sex part, and just enjoy the moment, while building the sexual tension between me and her, it was quite the opposite, it turned out many times that they were the ones begging me to do them.

When you can show a woman just how sexual you can be, without being needy and/or pushing for sex to happen, with a "whatever happens" attitude, they eventually can't help themselves and give in to their natural instincts. I always use the analogy of women being like a pot of water. You must let the heat rise slowly and naturally, in order to bring them to the boiling point, the point of no return, where they'll be the one to pounce on you...and that my friends is just a beautiful thing...

[Mystic Pymp]

This is women talk;
- A woman that talks about sex with you = she wants sex with you.
- A woman that says that if she comes to your place, nothing is going to happen = she wants sex with you.
- She talks about her gorgeous boobs and shows them to you = she wants sex with you.

The only thing that she doesn't want is the responsibility of it happening. She is a "too good of a girl" for sleeping around but... if it was happening and there is nothing that she could do to stop it from happening then maybe she would be ok (and secretly happy about it...)

My advice is don't bring up the topic on the table unless you want it to stop. Just let things happen and escalate naturally if that is what you want.

I so agree with this. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've gotten laid by a woman that made it clear to me that "nothing is/was going to happen between us two". I used to mess it all up when I complained to them as to why not, etc., not realizing that it is a form of sh!t test to see your reaction. When I finally learned not to be so concentrated on the sex part, and just enjoy the moment, while building the sexual tension between me and her, it was quite the opposite, it turned out many times that they were the ones begging me to do them.

When you can show a woman just how sexual you can be, without being needy and/or pushing for sex to happen, with a "whatever happens" attitude, they eventually can't help themselves and give in to their natural instincts. I always use the analogy of women being like a pot of water. You must let the heat rise slowly and naturally, in order to bring them to the boiling point, the point of no return, where they'll be the one to pounce on you...and that my friends is just a beautiful thing...

So in short what do you suggest I should do? Should I wait for her to make some serious moves or should I make some jokes, subtle moves, etc. and increase the tension?

It's awkward for me as I know her for 3 years or so and nothing was happening between us, albeit because both me and her were in relationships most of that time. If not for that I would probably never second guess it and just go for it.

She'll be coming to my place next week as we want to have some drinks before the Christmas break, so there will be a great opportunity to play some moves quite soon. Another week of DMSI exposure to back me up will be added bonus.

[Sanbosay]

This is women talk;
- A woman that talks about sex with you = she wants sex with you.
- A woman that says that if she comes to your place, nothing is going to happen = she wants sex with you.
- She talks about her gorgeous boobs and shows them to you = she wants sex with you.

The only thing that she doesn't want is the responsibility of it happening. She is a "too good of a girl" for sleeping around but... if it was happening and there is nothing that she could do to stop it from happening then maybe she would be ok (and secretly happy about it...)

My advice is don't bring up the topic on the table unless you want it to stop. Just let things happen and escalate naturally if that is what you want.

I so agree with this. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've gotten laid by a woman that made it clear to me that "nothing is/was going to happen between us two". I used to mess it all up when I complained to them as to why not, etc., not realizing that it is a form of sh!t test to see your reaction. When I finally learned not to be so concentrated on the sex part, and just enjoy the moment, while building the sexual tension between me and her, it was quite the opposite, it turned out many times that they were the ones begging me to do them.

When you can show a woman just how sexual you can be, without being needy and/or pushing for sex to happen, with a "whatever happens" attitude, they eventually can't help themselves and give in to their natural instincts. I always use the analogy of women being like a pot of water. You must let the heat rise slowly and naturally, in order to bring them to the boiling point, the point of no return, where they'll be the one to pounce on you...and that my friends is just a beautiful thing...

So in short what do you suggest I should do? Should I wait for her to make some serious moves or should I make some jokes, subtle moves, etc. and increase the tension?

It's awkward for me as I know her for 3 years or so and nothing was happening between us, albeit because both me and her were in relationships most of that time. If not for that I would probably never second guess it and just go for it.

She'll be coming to my place next week as we want to have some drinks before the Christmas break, so there will be a great opportunity to play some moves quite soon. Another week of DMSI exposure to back me up will be added bonus.

Let DMSI do the job for you, just relax and flow with the flow - that's what I would :-)

[lano1106]

I agree 100% with previous reply. Just relax... Just get closer and touch her a little bit if it feels natural for you to do so...

The other thing that I want to add is reward behavior when she does something that you like.

If she sends you pics of her boobs... Tell her that that you appreciate when she sends you pics like that.

If she does something that arouse you in her presence.. Tell that she should stop doing it because of the effect it does to you... For a woman, knowing that she arouse a man is a turn on button...

Just imagine the opposite.. Lets say a girl tells you to not massage her neck and shoulder because it turns her on. Be honest what do you think about doing?? I feel this work both ways...

Asking to stop doing something that turns you on will just encourage to do it more if that is what she wants...

But logistics appears perfect like planets all aligned together. The most important advice anyone can give is to just relax and don't think about anything. Your subconscious mind will make you do the right thing.

[Shannon]

Asking to stop doing something that turns you on will just encourage to do it more if that is what she wants...

Not always true. It depends on the woman and her level of experience and self confidence. I usually tell them something like, "If you want to have sex with me, by all means, keep going. Otherwise, you might want to stop, because that is turning me on. A lot. And if you don't want sex, that's not fair to me."

If her aim is sex, you'll find out REAL quick after that. But she gets the ego stroking regardless, and you don't have the chance of accidentally discouraging her if she's insecure or inexperienced.

[lano1106]

Asking to stop doing something that turns you on will just encourage to do it more if that is what she wants...

Not always true. It depends on the woman and her level of experience and self confidence. I usually tell them something like, "If you want to have sex with me, by all means, keep going. Otherwise, you might want to stop, because that is turning me on. A lot. And if you don't want sex, that's not fair to me."

If her aim is sex, you'll find out REAL quick after that. But she gets the ego stroking regardless, and you don't have the chance of accidentally discouraging her if she's insecure or inexperienced.

Oh! that is even better I agree.

One thing that I know is that in most of my successful seductions, at some point, I get a cue telling me that it is a done deal and this make something click inside my mind...

When this happen, this gives me an unstoppable confidence because I know that I can just relax and enjoy the process as it is going to happen no matter what...

The funny thing is maybe the clue is totally fake and this is the following state of mind that provides me the success...

Hopefully, Mystic Pymp, you are going to have that cue that will make click something inside you making the rest easy and enjoyable...

[DssMaster]

So in short, what do you suggest I should do?

I can't really say or give you advise as I don't know the history between you two, and I don't know you personally. But one thing you should learn is body language and tone of voice. Those are great guides to know what's going on in that mind of hers. Still amazes me how guys miss some blatant clues given by the ladies. I can only point you to some of the materials that I've read to help me understand more. Good starters to read and put the material taught into practice are books like John Alexander's book How To Become An Alpha Male, and also ARC's Mode One. Believe me, just those two would open up your eyes in a big way when it comes to learning how to act in a way that creates attraction the moment you walk in a room.

[Mystic Pymp]

Thanks lano1106, DssMaster, Sanbosay and Shannon for advice. I very much appreciate it! I took your words to the heart and will keep you posted. To be honest I have low expectations, I just want to enjoy the moment and see where it leads me. And that might just be for the best.

DMSI 3.3D Day 11

I've screw up. Due to my troubles sleeping (hard to fall asleep, but once sleeping nothing could wake me up) I screwed my biological clock. On Sunday I woke up at 4 PM! So, instead of turning it back to morning hours I decided to skip one night. As I write this I'm awake for 25 hours, funnily enough I'm not terribly tired.

Despite sleep problems I think I start to accept DMSI, albeit slowly. I feel much less depressed and more motivated, more driven. We'll see how it continues but I start to think I won't have to force myself through the DMSI and that once resistance and fear and dealt with for good it will be quite an enjoyable ride!

[Mystic Pymp]

DMSI 3.3D Day 14

I've met with my friend, I'll be talking about this later cause so interesting things happened, but now I want to talk about general stuff. I'm on ASRB required break now and I feel quite well. The negative effects I've been experiencing with DMSI are slowly diminishing, I'm much more energetic and productive. My sleep schedule is still hectic (today for example I fell asleep around 8PM and woke up around 3 or 4AM, very unusual for me) but I'm getting easily enough sleep for rest. So all I need is some adjustments to my biological clock and I will be fine.

I'll be going to my parents' for Chrismas and so I won't be getting much from the DMSI for the coming days. Obviously I will stick to the schedule though. That might be a good thing actually, It will give me good 1 week of exposure to the DMSI and good start into 2019.

Last chance to test DMSI in 2018 will be on Friday, I'm going to a party organized by my coworkers. I'm optimistic and scared at the same time. Optimistic cause I love my coworkers, they are a great bunch so there will be a lot of fun for sure. Scared because my crush from waaaay back will be there. I'm sure none of you remember, but that's the girl that me start running subs in the first place. I haven't been speaking with her for like 3 years and so god one knows what might happen. I doubt DMSI will target her in any way as she caught me with her intelligence and character, not her looks (as I look at her photos she's quite plain 5/10 maybe). But hey, I intent to enjoy the moment, not to dwell in the past!

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Ok, so the story with my friend. TL;DR we didn't have sex, but we had lots of fun and she let me dive my nose into her breast. Twice.

The initial plan was we were going to meet around 2PM, but we ended up meeting after 9AM, soon after she ended her classes. That was surprising, thought I'm gonna have a proper day of work done before the meeting but alas. Not a bad thing though as work was lazy enough already due to coming break. She also said her tooth hurts and throughout she was taking pills it ease the pain.

Right of the but she told me she must be home by 8PM and proceeded to explain why. We went to a shop and she bought me a bottle of rum (she owed me) and went to my place. We also decided to go watch Aquaman. Funnily enough she said she wanted to go with her boyfriend but since he doesn't have time and that most likely woundn't work out she agreed we should go. At my place we opened the bottle, we caught up with our lived, had some laughs and sung to the 80s music on YT. At some point my flatmate (our mutual friend) came to us for some chat (these two hags love their gossips ) and we started conversation about sex. All 3 of us shared our experiences, what turns us on and off, how orgasm for each of us works (it was nice to learn from unbiased source about female orgasms ) etc. Somewhere around this time she told me that in her life she had 7 sexual partners! Don't know why she shared it so abruptly, possibly as we talking about sex and she had lots of experience she didn't want to look like a slut?

At the cinema she was keeping comfortable touching contact. Nothing suggestive but she wouldn't shy away from leaning on me on her seat. I was trying to be proactive, overreacting at fun scenes and overall acting like a child. Partly because I was already drunk but partly because to keep the light atmosphere from the karaoke earlier. BTW if you didn't go already Aquaman in very good movie, nothing great in terms of plot, but action scenes are great, music was great and visual were spectacular - great fun altogether.

Back at my place we downed the bottle. She also managed to have argument with her boyfriend, nothing that would interfere with the fun however. We started having some heart-to-heart drunk conversations. I don't remember what I did exactly but she told me she loves me at some point and she pointed out how much time we spend together recently given how little time she has between school, work and family matters. The were two moments when we started hugging like crazy, one then and one later when I learned I will be going to Rome in April for my work related business. Both time, realizing the situation and wanting to test the waters (and being drunk helped a lot ) I went for a hug with my nose between her breasts. Her reaction to that was fun but not overwhelming, I felt like the second time I overstretched my welcome for a few minutes too long and it made her a little but uncomfortable.

Things ended up with me escorting her to the bus back home. We followed up with plans to go the sauna at one point (we were supposed to go today but I think noting will come out of this due to hangover she has) and a trip to the mountains in summer (about which we are talking about for a couple of months already actually).

Overall it was very fun day, given she had to go home early, I didn't have free home and her tooth hurt it went much better than I expected. Throughout I was confident and simply having fun with her. I went for some escalations but at no point I was needy. Regardless of if something for serious will come out of this, she gives me lots of experience and exposure I'll be sure to use in the future.

Any thoughts/suggestions/comments appreciated

[Shannon]

What she will do with you, she will do to you. If she will do things you would not appreciate her doing if you were her boyfriend, with you, before you are her boyfriend... wellll.... she will do that with someone else after you are her boyfriend.

Such a woman is not trustworthy, if you want to have a relationship with her.

[Mystic Pymp]

What she will do with you, she will do to you. If she will do things you would not appreciate her doing if you were her boyfriend, with you, before you are her boyfriend... wellll.... she will do that with someone else after you are her boyfriend.

Such a woman is not trustworthy, if you want to have a relationship with her.

Did I say I want relationship with her?

TBH I think that I might be for the first time in my life completely outcome independent when it comes to women. Partly because I'm tired from the last relationship and perhaps partly because of DMSI. The thing is ever since junior high school probably there was either someone on my mind I would fantasize about or at least I would look for some opportunities. Now... not so much. I rarely do fantasize, I'm not looking for relationship and I'm just having fun while it lasts.

The question is would I go for her if I had a chance for it and the answer is I don't know. I certainly would way back when I was being needy. Now I think I'd rather keep her as my friend. If anything I fear that if things keep escalating and they'll go the wrong way I might lose her as a friend and that would be painful. I don't know how much in it comes from resistance holding me back and how much is genuine concern.

[lano1106]

Also considering that the bf don't want to have sex with her... this kinda leave her with an important need unfulfilled...

I wouldn't categorize her as a bad girl for playing with fire in those conditions...