(10-21-2016, 06:21 PM)maxx55 Wrote: No, I definitely wouldn't just stand there and watch some other guy get laid. If I'm not in the action, I wouldn't watch lol.
And okay, CatMan. I know I've said it before...but I will seriously seriously make the effort to drop porn.
Is it okay to fantasize and masturbate? I have a good imagination.
I just hope DMSI doesn't make me any more horny than I already am.
That's the way to think about it, reframe it to going to a dude's house and watching up close while he gets it in, lmao. That's what I started thinking of it as!
Honestly? Fantasising can be normal to do, just as long as you don't spend tons of time doing it, like it becomes a substitute for the porn-fueled imagery. Masturbation, well, many guys say that after beating porn, they have far less interest in masturbation, like their urge to do it was fueled by the porn superstimulus and after they stopped they went back to a normal libido. They seem to be tied together. Most guys have huge issues getting rid of porn, and finding masturbation easy to stop after they've rid themselves of porn. I was the opposite, I found porn pretty simple to get rid of after getting my eyes opened up after that video, but by comparison the masturbation and edging were VERY difficult for me to get rid of. Especially edging, which only has a counter of 113 days by comparison so you can see I struggled with it for quite awhile. I used Overcome Pornography Addiction 4G, but not for too long. I decided to concentrate my conscious mind on porn addiction, and use Stop Masturbating 4G to remove the bigger of the two demons full-time. It didn't help with the edging though, that's one addition I will suggest Shannon adds to the next version. The edging urges randomly got progressively removed during E2, something I'm very grateful for. Once I got into the habit the first week or so, I'm good now, it's smooth sailing.
So for now, I'd concentrate on porn removal. That's the first step, then see how your body reacts. It may be like most guys, and masturbation may go by the boards alongside porn. If not, you can do what I did, Stop Masturbating 4G is a gem program and cut it out for me. I'm willing to bet edging won't be the problem for you it was for me, especially since you've done WAY more E2 than I have and edging was removed by E2 for me within 50 days.
