Is there any sub that can help with ocd?

[Most Wanted]

Yeah E3, we all need that. At least technologically equivalent with DMSI 3.1 tech.

I hope after MLS 5.5G or another sub that he prioritizes, maybe he will stick with E2 to E3 upgrade or whatever.

[Benjamin]

Care to elaborate?

OCD is an emotional issue, ASC would just stack confidence on top of that so you would end up with somebody who is really confident but still has OCD.

[Cozy]

Care to elaborate?

OCD is an emotional issue, ASC would just stack confidence on top of that so you would end up with somebody who is really confident but still has OCD.

Ben I must say, you're being extremely illogical. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised.

[Shannon]

Care to elaborate?

OCD is an emotional issue, ASC would just stack confidence on top of that so you would end up with somebody who is really confident but still has OCD.

Ben I must say, you're being extremely illogical. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised.

Cozy, you're getting to the insulting stage. Time to stop.

[Cozy]

Care to elaborate?

OCD is an emotional issue, ASC would just stack confidence on top of that so you would end up with somebody who is really confident but still has OCD.

Ben I must say, you're being extremely illogical. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised.

Cozy, you're getting to the insulting stage. Time to stop.

I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just letting Ben know when he's being illogical that's it.

[Benjamin]

Ben I must say, you're being extremely illogical. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised.

That makes zero sense whatsoever, but I won't waste anymore time trying to explain things to you.

Like i've seen from you several times your posts just seem to be taking a certain viewpoint that goes against everything just to cause an argument. And i've seen nothing in this thread other than you trying to talk crap.

[Cozy]

Shannon what do you think, is it possible to be self-confident and have OCD at the same time?

[Shannon]

Care to elaborate?

OCD is an emotional issue, ASC would just stack confidence on top of that so you would end up with somebody who is really confident but still has OCD.

Ben I must say, you're being extremely illogical. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised.

Cozy, you're getting to the insulting stage. Time to stop.

I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just letting Ben know when he's being illogical that's it.

You are insulting people if they take what you say as insulting.

You said:

Ben I must say, you're being extremely illogical. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised.

The part in italics is a direct insult. It reads that way to me, and it obviously reads that way to Ben. So yes, it is time to stop being insulting. You can say you believe someone is being illogical without being insulting.

And by the way, I fail to see where Ben was being illogical.

[Shannon]

Shannon what do you think, is it possible to be self-confident and have OCD at the same time?

It is possible to be confident in directions where you do not have OCD. OCD is based in a subconscious anxiety loop that feeds back into itself. Typically normal "logic" goes like this:

I am worried that someone might break into my house. > I have to lock the door.>I lock the door.>I am safe now.

This is where someone who is "normal" would stop. But someone who has OCD about this action and insecurity would follow a logic train that looks like this:

I am worried that someone might break into my house. > I have to lock the door.>I lock the door.>I am worried that someone might break into my house.>I have to lock the door.>The door is locked.>I am worried that someone might break into my house.>I have to make sure the door is locked.>I am worried that someone might break into my house.>I have to make sure the door is locked.>I am worried that someone might break into my house.>I have to make sure the door is locked.

Absolute Self Confidence will not correct OCD. The issue is much more complex and challenging than ASC can deal with, which is why I suggested E2.

[Benjamin]

So now that the annoyance passed over what you said, which yes was insulting... maybe you can explain how I was being illogical Cozy?

[Cozy]

Shannon you and your followers are consistently illogical, and this is just another example.

I don't know if you believe what you're saying or not, but I will oblige in explaining why your argument is ridiculous, and if you choose to take it as an insult then that's your problem, and doesn't say much about the progress you've made so far in self-development.

OCD is just an insecurity about not having done something correctly. Anything else is just a fear of something, which like you said, is normal.

Self-confidence is the belief in ones self and ones own abilities. To have self-confidence is to NOT be insecure about something you've done, as well as having confidence in your future actions.

Actually OCD is most likely a direct result of someone lacking self-confidence.

Should be simple right? Apparently not for some people.

[Cozy]

So now that the annoyance passed over what you said, which yes was insulting... maybe you can explain how I was being illogical Cozy?

I'm sure your annoyance was more complex than that.

[Greenduck]

Getting my hands wet and putting in some things in your discussion:

1) Distinction finding something insulting/Taking something insulting
2) Distinction illogical/using a different logic

Maybe can add some additional levels of nuance to the discussion and help finding a level of agreement.

[apollolux]

OCD is just an insecurity about not having done something correctly. Anything else is just a fear of something, which like you said, is normal.

Self-confidence is the belief in ones self and ones own abilities. To have self-confidence is to NOT be insecure about something you've done, as well as having confidence in your future actions.

Actually OCD is most likely a direct result of someone lacking self-confidence.

Should be simple right? Apparently not for some people.

Actually, OCD is not an insecurity about not having done something correctly. It's an inability to immediately process that a thing has been done at all, usually memory-related, control issues, or a combination of both. Whether the control issues stem from insecurity is another story entirely, however.