Humanity as a Hive Mind

[SargeMaximus]

Really? Do these people eat? Sleep? Breathe? Pump blood? Do they blink their eyes? Have hopes? Dreams? Fears? Pleasures and pains? Do these people feel alone? Do they feel unique? do they want to be special? Do they strive to live a good life?


How are they different?

I'm coming from the assumption that we have souls and we're more than just our flesh and blood. With that assumption in my mind, I see that every individual is different because each possesses a different soul or point of consciousness. We do possess a lot of the same things that make us similar, but there's something else there as well.

Ah, I see. Whereas I believe that all people have the SAME soul. Like plants growing from the same root (forget what trees do this, but some trees have entire sections of forests where the trees are all from 1). I believe it is the denial of this fact that makes us think we are separate and therefore need to defend ourselves against the "others".

I think you're missing the point. The human condition is what makes us the same. Removing labels removes the segregation, the dividing nature of ourselves, to believe "we" are different than "they". Everyone "should" indeed be ok with their idiosyncrasies, but that does not make a person different than another person because we all have them!

When I said the human condition I meant the lower consciousness things that are given in to like fear or anger. Labels are a lot of the time manifestation of fear. My point being, the fear comes first, then the labels. Simply changing the labels isn't changing the underlying problem. People need to look at why they feel the need to create labels, and the uniqueness of each individual means there is no real universal answer to that. They have to find it for themselves.

I disagree, most label stuff is entirely ego-driven as a direct result of thinking we are different from other people. When you realize you're not, the fear evaporates.

Do you really believe that these people don't give a shit? Do you really believe that they don't have friends (or want friends) or family (or want family) and care for those they love? You really believe that? Or do they have "normal" moments where they talk amongst themselves about "us" and how different "we" are, like we about them?

And you say we're different?

I never said that. They could very well have friends and family they love. But it's like they are practicing selective compassion. I'm sure you've encountered people who are nice to you if you're in their circle, but treat everyone else like garbage. That's not good enough. I'm talking about the people that see practicing compassion as a waste of time because it doesn't directly impact them. They'd rather let loose and make everyone else miserable than take responsibility for their poor actions.

I am actually experiencing, more and more, people treating me nice no matter what. People who can be mean to others are nice to me without fail. Again, I believe that is because I am not 'different' to them, and this could be reversed if everyone realized it.

This threw me for a loop because it seems to be in direct conflict with what you said in the beginning:

Some people are inherently different, even without a label.

Either we're all going to learn to accept that we're all human and regardless of beliefs or differences we are essentially the same beings.

I agree with the latter, with one tweak: We are all the same being. The universal "self", as Alan Watts talks about in great detail.

I just want to touch on the world peace thing though, as I think it's important. I, personally, don't believe that "peace" is possible. Because the nature of reality is dual. There is light, and there is dark. Also, more often than not, the more passionate about peace a nation becomes, the more violent they get in order to achieve it.

What I meant to say is even without a label, people can sense it. They'll still perceive that difference.

I recognized I may seem contradictory right now. But I want people to accept everyone, but NOT give up their individuality.

Again, I think the "difference" they "perceive" is ego-driven, not rooted in the facts at all.

But, you both can and can't achieve this. It depends on where you come at it from. Are you an individual that needs others to agree with your viewpoint? Then there will always be some form of non-acceptance.

However, if you accept the other people that are evil, manipulating, cold-hearted, murderous fiends, and that's ok, then you will not. So you see, it's only possible to accept everyone if you accept EVERYONE. And only then, will there be peace.

You're certainly entitled to that belief. However I hold out hope that we will one day achieve it. Humans are advancing and questioning more now than ever. I don't really believe in the dual nature of reality, I think it's far more complex than that with things going on we can't readily perceive.

Well I think life is as complex as you make it.

You're certainly entitled to that belief. However I hold out hope that we will one day achieve it. Humans are advancing and questioning more now than ever. I don't really believe in the dual nature of reality, I think it's far more complex than that with things going on we can't readily perceive.

We are just barely starting to break the mental construct of time. Crazy to think that if you have past lives, they're actually taking place at the same time as you are existing as time is also an illusion. Just imagine how weird it'll be once we get past time.

This is fascinating, do you have a link or something for that?